Trophy Points

[Wizzy]

I think Trophy Points were one of the best features in the game and I wish they could be brought back somehow.

It provided a place to compete, pvp rather than crew vs crew and was loads of fun and gave people incentive to attack.

TP FTW!

[Domination]

Good idea, all the attacking for trophies caused a few war's too :)

[Wizzy]

I don't think that sentence makes any sense.

[deadlyrebel3629]

are you talking about the trophy competition where outwar rewarded points to the people with most trophies? Or something like that

[makavelitehdon]

Ye it was a greate competition. Should be brought back but with some new ideas like if you win one month you cannot do it for another one, cause last time same people won over and over, which pretty much killed it as no one wasnt trying to compete any more

[Wizzy]

Agreed. With that change I think TP would be great again.

[makavelitehdon]

But first for it to work we need some attacking search pages like back in a day that listed all players, cause right now the way it is set up, you need to know the person you want to attack, cant just go on random attack sprear in the attack pages lol.

But yet lets go ow bring it back with a new fresh style

[Domination]

michelle and tessa use to rape me for my money and supplies so i'm not really looking forward to that again. @,@

[Shady]

I really didnt like the trophy points, but it brought competition to the game so i would like to see it come back. I might like it more since i would have a change now.

[Kourtney]

I never got into the trophy system till just before it was taken out, simply cuz I had tons of money even after buying supplies. But it seemed interesting

[Domination]

I was far to weak back when this was out to get involved with it, but now if it came back i'd do it.

[Bon3r]

didnt it involve money ? to buy a trophy u had to have money lol . 1 there is no more income tax on rings :p or money in general lol. if they improvised it a little maybe to most hits or soemthign liek that then that would be a diff story

[jeffers1986]

Its pointless to bring it back, cause we know whos going to win it every time- the lvl 70s.

[Domination]

Not really, the higher lvl's didn't win it as much the first time.

[HellSteed]

well like most good things on ow that were made ... i doubt they will bring it back ...

[DruiD]

I like the idea as well. Here is how I think it could work. The old system was based off of money, so they'd somehow have to base it off of Strength now, like x amount of stripped Strength earns you enough credits to buy whatever trophy it earns you, but then I mean theirs still snags as far as how they'll keep everything queued for the competition. What I mean is how they'd deduct your access strength (would have to be another strength system aside from the normal one) that way someone couldn't become ungodly strong, but could still carry the competition. Dunno my idea might be dumb, but I'll try to come back with a better way of doing it

[Bloodkitty1st]

I think it would be a good idea to add some competition back into the game, but I'm not sure how you would implement it, you needed money before, which has been removed from the game.

I guess the only way to do it, is to require points to get them. But again I don't think that would work.

But perhaps making the points total on a monthly basis, and the rewards can be useable for exactly 1 month, when they get deleted. They could be quite good too xD

[champ]

I'd like something to do that doesnt require a crew, this sounds promising.

[Wizzy]

I like the idea as well. Here is how I think it could work. The old system was based off of money, so they'd somehow have to base it off of Strength now, like x amount of stripped Strength earns you enough credits to buy whatever trophy it earns you, but then I mean theirs still snags as far as how they'll keep everything queued for the competition. What I mean is how they'd deduct your access strength (would have to be another strength system aside from the normal one) that way someone couldn't become ungodly strong, but could still carry the competition. Dunno my idea might be dumb, but I'll try to come back with a better way of doing it

Or they could just bring back money and supplies ^_^.

[Kourtney]

I second that champ, crew raids are just irritating, especially that damn Space Ranger junk, because no one is good at making groups for it.

btw, are you champ from old zimbob RIOT? You might remember me.. stitchez

[skydragon666]

Trophy Points OWNED /ME LOVES THAT IDEA

[Draven]

They need to bring them back it was great now you cant have something to show for all the attacking you've done or any of the crew hitlist hittin you've done and the defends you got now it blows wish they'd bring it back

[destinyslove]

People cheat too much. You had level 1's winning and no one could hit them. Someone will find a way to cheat and it will be useless.

[Wizzy]

People find a way to cheat at EVERYTHING in the game. It's not fair to single out TP as useless because people MIGHT find a way to cheat. You might as well call everything else in the game useless.

[DruiD]

Yeah you can't take out something because of potential cheating that's not right. I'm with champ in the view of their needs to be more individual things on the game that aren't so relient on the crew. It gets so boring sitting around waiting on gods all the time when their literally is nothing else to do. This would give you something to do in your down time, and it's fun not to mention you can win points which are hard to come by now a days.

[Egnar]

But first for it to work we need some attacking search pages like back in a day that listed all players, cause right now the way it is set up, you need to know the person you want to attack, cant just go on random attack sprear in the attack pages lol.

But yet lets go ow bring it back with a new fresh style
Actually, I think the way it's set up now is more interesting for trophies. Frankly, you can either search random people (boring!) or you can search crews and run a whole crew. This insights anger between crews and players and makes wars something to consider.

[makavelitehdon]

Yeah you can't take out something because of potential cheating that's not right. I'm with champ in the view of their needs to be more individual things on the game that aren't so relient on the crew. It gets so boring sitting around waiting on gods all the time when their literally is nothing else to do. This would give you something to do in your down time, and it's fun not to mention you can win points which are hard to come by now a days.

Agree with that, crews are getting bored. Mostly all you need crew for is to do raids and get items, but pretty much it hit the boring stage by now, cause we have been raiding for years and stuff lol.

If they released a new system of Trophy Points it would be great. But like some people have said that some higher level players might abuse this to win every time. But if ow added so certain levels go with each other like lvl 68-70 are in one group this will stop so higher players don't compete with smaller guys.
Also the point of wining the points from these, will increase the flow of points on the game.

I had a idea, on the old forum I believe, it was something creating a Crew Trophy Point competition. How it could work, that if ow brought back crew attacking on other crew. And in there, outwar could create like a sign up which crew would like to be involved and start a war competition, like how many times you can beat the entire crew in a crew raid. It sounds easy but it can be made hard.

[Egnar]

People find a way to cheat at EVERYTHING in the game. It's not fair to single out TP as useless because people MIGHT find a way to cheat. You might as well call everything else in the game useless.
Actually, I'd rather something not be in the game if the potential for cheating were high. It makes sense as a straight edge player that you'd want to see things full proof before they're introduced.

[DruiD]

Nothing in this worlds foolproof, everything added to this game has potential to be cheated. What w1zzy is saying is if everything that was thought of to be added to this game was based off of potentially something that can be cheated then this game would be a blank black page.

[Wizzy]

Actually, I'd rather something not be in the game if the potential for cheating were high. It makes sense as a straight edge player that you'd want to see things full proof before they're introduced.

So you want them to remove skills and raids? Cheating in attacking is the least of anyone's worries at the moment. So there shouldn't be too much problem if TP was brought back.

[Egnar]

So you want them to remove skills and raids? Cheating in attacking is the least of anyone's worries at the moment. So there shouldn't be too much problem if TP was brought back.
Cheating in attacking is a pretty big worry if they say "hey, we'll reward you for constantly attacking". I'd hate to think of my experience gained if I were constantly attacked by people using bugs similar to the old "More then one attack per hour bug".

I don't want them to remove anything but the fact remains that when something is implemented people need to first ask themselves "How high is the potential for cheating and how does it adversely effect those who aren't cheating?

For the most part, the way the game is outlined right now people cheating with skills/raids doesn't harm me or any other player one bit. IT IS a disappointment because obviously it's unfair that no one else gets particular items but I can live with it.

On the other hand, forging a competition that may adversely effect players ability to grow due to bugs in either the trophy point system or the attacking system is pretty major.

I'm not saying don't bring back the trophy competition. I'm just saying that cheating does need to be taken into account when something is implemented.

[Wizzy]

Cheating with skills/raids DOES harm other people with regards to the fact that my set could be getting better and I could be growing more and enjoying myself more if someone else didn't cheat and beat Jazzmin in 07 seconds.

[Egnar]

Cheating with skills/raids DOES harm other people with regards to the fact that my set could be getting better and I could be growing more and enjoying myself more if someone else didn't cheat and beat Jazzmin in 07 seconds.

It doesn't harm you. Because nothing bad is happening to your account. It is a nuisance because you can't grow (like I outlined). On the other hand attacking bugs do harm you because you actually lose growth due to bugs instead of just being put at a standstill.

[Wizzy]

What's the difference between not growing because you're being hit and not growing because you don't have nicer items.

This game is called outWAR, not outPANSY. You're supposed to be hit and lose experience.

[Egnar]

What's the difference between not growing because you're being hit and not growing because you don't have nicer items.

This game is called outWAR, not outPANSY. You're supposed to be hit and lose experience.

I think you're missing the point. . . Let me break it down for you.

Cheating in raids:
*You don't grow because you can't get a specific item
*Your account remains unchanged

Cheating in attacking
*You don't grow because bugs in attacking allow people to attack you many times in the span of one hour. Not only do you not grow but you're growing backwards.

This has nothing to do with being a pansy or not. I love wars, I wish wars were back and I would compete in them if they were but I would prefer that when I lose hard work I've already accomplished that it be fair and not through unfair means.

Now please, Wizzy, continue to misread my posts and ignore half of what I say in an effort to find small things to argue with me in an effort to expand your post count ever greater.
I prefict that Whizzy will ignore most of my post and comment mostly on the fact that he enjoys making meager and frivolous arguments to make his post count higher.

[Wizzy]

That last comment there bud is provoking argument.

Anyways, that bug as far as I was told where you can attack more than once in an hour happens MOSTLY at random. Not that that would help in TP in ANY case. TP isn't based off experience.

[Egnar]

No but trophy points are based off of cash which is taken from attacking. Cash and exp are both tied into attacking thus someone wishing to exploit said bug would get more TP and harm your account more.

Edit: Also - money is no longer in the game.

[Wizzy]

So say cash was back in the game, if you have 100% rampage you steal all of the available cash from a person in the first hit. So what would be the point for a person to exploit such a bug in the first place if there's no more money on that character that you attack after the first hit?

[Egnar]

You're basing this on the assumption that every player who wishes to compete in a tainted manner has more than 100% rampage (100% isn't the cap and doesn't guarantee a rampage).

[DruiD]

I still think it's foolish to throw out a possible good idea based off thinking it's going to be glitched. I'd rather lose 1000 exp than to be bored out of my mind. Bottom line is when it's more fun to be on the forum then the game, something needs to be implemented, and I think this would be a great addition

[Wizzy]

Ok so. Lets put it down to this. I don't believe your (Egnar) argument is strong enough to have much if any impact in competing in a TP competition.

[Sparda1234]

I would like to see TP come back to the game, but i duno how it would since you cant get money to buy them :-? maybe something like....

"You enter the Trophy room and already start to feel weaker than before, you see 4 doors in front of you with an image above them. Which do you chose.. bronze silver gold or plat..."

Going into the room would weaken your strength depending on which one you went for...

[Wizzy]

Or they could just bring back money ^_^

[Sparda1234]

Or they could just bring back money ^_^

lol they wont bring back money again, it would be nice to have money and supplies back though.

[bluedthunder]

I like the weakening strength idea, if they bring money back to the game, it'll just be multi abuse for the money and hit with your main. However the same principle can be applied with strength...power up multi strength and then hit....

[Sensational]

probably why they wont bring it back then.. however much we want it back.

[bluedthunder]

Well, outwar needs to bring out something to the nature of TP...as most of us are bored out of our minds of the same old stuff.

[Sparda1234]

yep there hasnt been anything new to do at all for so long, we get the odd quest, which takes a day to do lol they need to bring something big back into the game where everyone can take part in it and it gives people soemthing new to do.