blackmailing and hitlist

[baremetal]

When i started the game it was full of challenges. Now i see certain people abusing their power to get low level chars hitlisted and you need to pay 15 points to get off the HL.
I refused that , its going against my principles of fair play.
Also profound language is being used, We can report on security issues but not on these issuses.
A good fight and hl ok, but not for personal profit. What is rampid going to about these racketeers?

[jZampage]

When i started the game it was full of challenges. Now i see certain people abusing their power to get low level chars hitlisted and you need to pay 15 points to get off the HL.
I refused that , its going against my principles of fair play.
Also profound language is being used, We can report on security issues but not on these issuses.
A good fight and hl ok, but not for personal profit. What is rampid going to about these racketeers?

That's all part of the game man. The language problem should be fixed, but outwar has always been about attacking, I'm glad to see it's at least coming back, for a while it was at an alltime low.

[belgiumdude]

When i started the game it was full of challenges. Now i see certain people abusing their power to get low level chars hitlisted and you need to pay 15 points to get off the HL.
I refused that , its going against my principles of fair play.
Also profound language is being used, We can report on security issues but not on these issuses.
A good fight and hl ok, but not for personal profit. What is rampid going to about these racketeers?

if you have troubles with profane language you can always report the message or talk to a lvl 4 game helper on your server :)

[xpendersx]

what about random hitlisting and crews using hitman programs?

[SkatrBill]

lol hitman programs? what are you talking about, i am confused

[bolognaman]

ive got multis that have been randomly added to HL's and have even been hitmanned, who would go through the trouble of hitmanning a multi several times without a program. programs are out of control now, they made the first round of WOZ virtually unplayable

[Egnar]

Well, if a crew has a hitlist contest generally they just randomly pick names. . .Hitman would make sense in this case, honestly.

[bolognaman]

thats what i dont like about the HL upgrade, it encourages stuff like this. I dont mind the random HL part as much as the blatant program usage.

[Wizzy]

You're SUPPOSED to get hit. lol. Multi or no multi, you're supposed to.

[Domination]

the program use is an issues, but like wizzy said you are suppose to get hit in this game, attacking each other and our secret link started this game.

[Returnoflazlo]

ive got multis that have been randomly added to HL's and have even been hitmanned, who would go through the trouble of hitmanning a multi several times without a program. programs are out of control now, they made the first round of WOZ virtually unplayable

You complain to much
what server do u play and whats ur OW name so i can hl u and rape u with my multis

[belgiumdude]

thats what i dont like about the HL upgrade, it encourages stuff like this. I dont mind the random HL part as much as the blatant program usage.

It's an all out of war, everyone attacks everyone, and if there is a HL-competition your multis can be added to te hitlist, if they use a hitmman during the competition they strip more xp wich will get them higher in the competition

[poophuuh]

its part of the game suck it up

[bolognaman]

programs are a part of the game??? Judging by how defensive everyone has gotten proves my point that programs are out of control.

[Shawty]

programs are a part of the game??? Judging by how defensive everyone has gotten proves my point that programs are out of control.

This has nothing to do with the thread!.........keep it on topic please

[PaasHaaS]

LOL.

Do you realise that you're complaining about people just playing the game ?

Either suck it up or hit back. But ffs stop the crying.

[bolognaman]

Im only complaining about the autoattack/autohitman programs

[ItachiUchiha]

Your thread seems a ltittle misleading since you say you're complaining about AAs and auto hitman progs when the title of your thread says blackmailing and hitlist. Regarding returnoflazio's post, that was one of the dumbest and most childish things I've ever read in a post.

[Pwner]

Im only complaining about the autoattack/autohitman programs

got proof of people using it? maybe they have no lifes? it takes 2-3 minutes to hit 100 people on a HL, really no effort at all... HM is a skill, its part of the game, normally i will HM the whole HL for our crew to do runs on, the game is about attacking (well, it used to be, seems like they remove everything to do with attacking... wars, money, supplys, trophy contest, ect)


what is a war without fighting? notice the name of the game, outWAR

[johnny_rice]

I agree attacking is part of the game, but in my opionion some level 70 monster shouldnt be able to attack a lvl 10 monster. I remember back in the first rounds it was like that. Lower level people should have an chance to atleast reach a certain level before they get raped.

But it really doesnt matter to me, either way the game is fun and ill continue to play, im not going to complain about it, if i get hit ill hit twice as much to get it back, and thats what keeps me playing the game.

[Wizzy]

A level70 would take pity on the level10 so it doesn't matter?

[johnny_rice]

Just an example, i wasn't trying to start an argument.

[darkpoey]

Well yes it is part of the game...

But it isn't good for the game... "pay up or never be removed"
That only discourages "newbs" and eventually they quit from being raped too much.. most people don't want to restart all over with a new account.

[belgiumdude]

wel lthen attack them back and keep doing it, but keep attacking them back much harder!

[Domination]

Well yes it is part of the game...

But it isn't good for the game... "pay up or never be removed"
That only discourages "newbs" and eventually they quit from being raped too much.. most people don't want to restart all over with a new account.

Most big crews tell you to pay to get off there list but they usually do take you off due to exp lock or just flat out boredom.

[xpendersx]

got proof of people using it? maybe they have no lifes? it takes 2-3 minutes to hit 100 people on a HL, really no effort at all... HM is a skill, its part of the game, normally i will HM the whole HL for our crew to do runs on, the game is about attacking (well, it used to be, seems like they remove everything to do with attacking... wars, money, supplys, trophy contest, ect)


what is a war without fighting? notice the name of the game, outWAR

you Hitman an entire 100 person HL manually? I doubt it.

[darkpoey]

wel lthen attack them back and keep doing it, but keep attacking them back much harder!

newbs cant attack people back who are much bigger then them, if they manage to get a hit off they'l probly just get bruted


Most big crews tell you to pay to get off there list but they usually do take you off due to exp lock or just flat out boredom.
This is the case with some crews, but on my game helper account I get quite a few messages from "newbs" getting bullied,
Some crews take alot longer to get bored, some crews just leave these "random" people up untill they have an actual enemy to hitlist, some just put 500 hits, either way it's not good for the game

[mandysrules]

newbs cant attack people back who are much bigger then them, if they manage to get a hit off they'l probly just get bruted



This is the case with some crews, but on my game helper account I get quite a few messages from "newbs" getting bullied,
Some crews take alot longer to get bored, some crews just leave these "random" people up untill they have an actual enemy to hitlist, some just put 500 hits, either way it's not good for the game

Ya, I think there needs to be more things to do in this game. guys are getting bored.

[ItachiUchiha]

Well yes it is part of the game...

But it isn't good for the game... "pay up or never be removed"
That only discourages "newbs" and eventually they quit from being raped too much.. most people don't want to restart all over with a new account.

Here's a good tip for the people who get that threat, try (it may take a while for some though) to get stronger stuff then fight back. Either that or go down taking some of that person's crew with you (that you can beat). Complaining though would only make them hit you more (if the crew are being dicks about it). Coming from experience, there are people who would just pwn a crew because he/she was told that he/she would have to pay points to get off the hitlist. Doesn't always work though so if you can't do it I don't think you should try it.

[terrytoh]

Want to get off a HL? Start some neg multies and then start negging the crew every time they go to raid something. After they lose a few gods, they'll rethink you being on a HL.

[Meerak]

lol thats funny... you negging the enemy is worse then taking a hit... and theres no encouragement to hit hiitlist anymore. why are people complaining when most people dont even hit?

[terrytoh]

My point is that Uber players often tend to attempt to essentially blackmail other people by making threats of HLing, etc. I've seen it happen when lower players are trying to sell something, and the "Uber" player doesn't want to pay the price asked. It happens for other reasons, also.

Negging gives the lower level players a way to fight back - and it can, and does, work. And it's generally much more cost effective than bountying.

If a player decides to HL someone, or rape someone with multies, then I see no problem with making his/her raiding life miserable.

[Pwner]

you Hitman an entire 100 person HL manually? I doubt it.

yes i do, in OC we have a rga of 300+ HM's, simple notepad with names and copy/paste, do 25 or so names at a time, takes only 2 minutes, then 1-2 minutes to hit them all...


and most the time, we have a few people doing it at once, so its even easyer

[ItachiUchiha]

My point is that Uber players often tend to attempt to essentially blackmail other people by making threats of HLing, etc. I've seen it happen when lower players are trying to sell something, and the "Uber" player doesn't want to pay the price asked. It happens for other reasons, also.

Negging gives the lower level players a way to fight back - and it can, and does, work. And it's generally much more cost effective than bountying.

If a player decides to HL someone, or rape someone with multies, then I see no problem with making his/her raiding life miserable.


I've actually done that before and I have this to say, it can and does work sometimes. Now bountying AND doing that would make a few people cry. But speaking of bountying, imagine a 200 person crew getting every member bountied with the max amount of point you can bounty one person with as well as the crew itself getting bountied with the maximum amount of points you could bounty a crew with. All I can say if that was to happen is, holy shit that crew is going to have a bad day. Also regarding threats of hitlisting a smaller player when they're trying to sell something, in my opinion, thats beyond immature lol. But anywho, some people are just too lazy to have a price listed sometimes and shit hits the fan when a smaller player offers a lower point amount than expected. Its pretty pathetic how bigger players make a big deal out of that when they're too lazy to put a point offer down. Its like they expect a million points for the item.

[Computron]

lol hitman programs? what are you talking about, i am confused

Well take a crew that has lvl 13 under fire, so they strip like 13% more exp by crewhits, and then they use a program to attack you every 120 minutes, you and other accounts like yours... high enough to strip exp, but arent strong enough to do damage to your account.

And when you report this in a support question, you dont get an answer only marked as answered, yet the person attacking you is dtill attacking every 120 minutes, on the minute.

I'm loosing 20k exp every day because of this.

there was a poll a few weeks back, my option wasnt listed:
persons who use automated programs should:
[x] get all exp stripped, all items wearing and in vault/backpack removed account suspended for 150 days (if account is crewleader: remove crew with all upgrades and vault items) for all the accounts in the rampid of the abuser.

[bolognaman]

Well take a crew that has lvl 13 under fire, so they strip like 13% more exp by crewhits, and then they use a program to attack you every 120 minutes, you and other accounts like yours... high enough to strip exp, but arent strong enough to do damage to your account.

And when you report this in a support question, you dont get an answer only marked as answered, yet the person attacking you is dtill attacking every 120 minutes, on the minute.

I'm loosing 20k exp every day because of this.

there was a poll a few weeks back, my option wasnt listed:
persons who use automated programs should:
[x] get all exp stripped, all items wearing and in vault/backpack removed account suspended for 150 days (if account is crewleader: remove crew with all upgrades and vault items) for all the accounts in the rampid of the abuser.

my solution: BRING BACK THE MATH!!!!

[Egnar]

People need to learn to fight back - The only reason big crews can do this is because people will pay them. Sit around kids, story time.

Back before level 70, before War of Zhul 1 or 2 and way before my account had anything better than "Newbie God" or Synge items I bruted up and hit someone that was level 58 at the time and in a big name crew because he was on our hitlist and I was in a hitlist competition.

Now this silly guy, because he was one of those "hit me and I'll rape you" types put a 50 point bounty on my head and started attacking me - Funny enough he sent me a message afterwards asking why I bruted him. . .

Now, I didn't stand for this. Sure I was probably around level 45 at the time and close to leveling - Sure, I had no chance of attacking him unskilled and couldn't keep up with the EPH on his items but I fought back.

First thing I did was counter his bounty with one of my own, instead of folding.

You know what happened next?
This level 58 with top items begs and pleads with me to remove the bounty. . .In the end he paid me to remove the bounty on him and to remove the bounty on me. . .

The Morale of the Story?
Just because your account isn't big doesn't mean you can't fight back - These big name guys may look tough on the outside but the majority of them are really squimish and act like little girls on the inside.

[chopstix]

rawr, i'll poop on a noob that dares fight back with me :), i don't go picking random noob fights though.

[bolognaman]

People need to learn to fight back - The only reason big crews can do this is because people will pay them. Sit around kids, story time.

Back before level 70, before War of Zhul 1 or 2 and way before my account had anything better than "Newbie God" or Synge items I bruted up and hit someone that was level 58 at the time and in a big name crew because he was on our hitlist and I was in a hitlist competition.

Now this silly guy, because he was one of those "hit me and I'll rape you" types put a 50 point bounty on my head and started attacking me - Funny enough he sent me a message afterwards asking why I bruted him. . .

Now, I didn't stand for this. Sure I was probably around level 45 at the time and close to leveling - Sure, I had no chance of attacking him unskilled and couldn't keep up with the EPH on his items but I fought back.

First thing I did was counter his bounty with one of my own, instead of folding.

You know what happened next?
This level 58 with top items begs and pleads with me to remove the bounty. . .In the end he paid me to remove the bounty on him and to remove the bounty on me. . .

The Morale of the Story?
Just because your account isn't big doesn't mean you can't fight back - These big name guys may look tough on the outside but the majority of them are really squimish and act like little girls on the inside.

Most of these "big" players are so insecure they love having beef with lower level players and get off on you fighting back, just read some of these guys profiles and how hard they act.

[Egnar]

Most of these "big" players are so insecure they love having beef with lower level players and get off on you fighting back, just read some of these guys profiles and how hard they act.This story comes from one of those guys. They act tough so no one attacks you - Then they go apecrap when they get attacked. The thought of losing exp upsets them.

[mechacosby]

yeah well a lot of the high level players are such huge nerds in real life they have to try acting tough in the game....when you get bullied around just remember, in all likelihood the person thats bullying you lives in his moms basement and plays with himself thinking about his exp gain

[exdbx]

what server are u on?

[bolognaman]

yeah well a lot of the high level players are such huge nerds in real life they have to try acting tough in the game....when you get bullied around just remember, in all likelihood the person thats bullying you lives in his moms basement and plays with himself thinking about his exp gain

I think that exp stripped should increase when you attack players higher levels than you but decrease when you attack those less than you, it'll give players a motivation to "bully upward".

[baremetal]

Recruiting lev 20+(Exceptions may be made ; )..... lookin 4 Raiders!!
msg xxxx to get in
must be ACTIVE
Problem with our HL? msg the hl manager if ya got pointz =]

These guys openly admit they want points. This has nuttin to do with a game experience it is blackmail. Good thing is that i dont need a hitlist, the crew list will do ;-)

[Wizzy]

Funny enough it's the opposite with me. Even though I'm a level69 I get total newbs attacking me for no reason so I poon em back haha. All you really need is a good stock of brutes and some time and if anyone gives you any trouble just brute them like 3 times in a row and they'll go away...not me though :p I'm a tough cookie.

[magnetite]

Is hitlisting somebody for no reason other than you think its a laugh, then having an entire crew attack them dozens of times a day for 6-7 weeks all part of the game?

Is it an acceptable part of the game when someone who has paid a lot of money to improve their account is forced out of Outwar because of it? Its bullying, you can dress it up however you want but at the end of the day it is pathetic childish bullying

[Wizzy]

Is hitlisting somebody for no reason other than you think its a laugh, then having an entire crew attack them dozens of times a day for 6-7 weeks all part of the game?

Is it an acceptable part of the game when someone who has paid a lot of money to improve their account is forced out of Outwar because of it? Its bullying, you can dress it up however you want but at the end of the day it is pathetic childish bullying

I think it is. Then again that's just me :p Attacking used to be the main part of the game we now know as Outwar, if you can't take getting hit or fight back then this game probably isn't for you.

NB. That's my persona view.

[trucknut]

i agree with magnetite especially when the crew doing the hling are all lvl 65 and higher with sacred blades or reforged sacred blades. uall say neg them and all that crap but all it does is most times make them madder. this game is suppose to be enjoyable but how can u enjoy it when u r getting hit by a crew like that 24/7. i think they need to create a battle zone or bring back wars with a twist to them and eliminate random attacks and crewhitlists.especially when some of us have spent a lot of money on this game we shouldnt be bullied .

[OMFGsPaZz]

WOW SAD...everyone is crying about being hit? lmao
like most ppl have said before, thats all part of the game...its the best part of the game.
i love hearing ppl like you cry to me when i hit you.
if you dont enjoy hitting ppl, getting hit, the excitement, the drama, or anything else related to this game, go play candyland. i mean comeon now...u signed up for outWAR, what did u expect nobody to atk you?
i was a 36 and had 48's atking me...and the sad thing is, now im a 52, and that guys only a 51. the tables have turned and im the bully now. thats what you have to work for. so quit crying and start gettin better.

and its sad that if someone hits a HL 6+ times a day the first thing everyone does is cry AA. or if someone DC's over 200k they automatically are using typpo. just because some people devote more time to this game than you dosent mean they cheat.

i work in the oil field and i stay on location for weeks at a time, so i have alot of free time to sit on ow. (around 12 hrs a night, and get paid for it :D)
i remember a few months back , my crew had a HL comp and i would hit the HL 10+ times a night. the day after it started i had maybe 30 msgs in my inbox claming that i used an AA. i even had a few mods riding my ass about it. but i hit every hit legit, and still do.
sure there is alot of ppl who use programs, but that dosent mean every good account uses programs.

[ginabean]

Some people complain about the racketeering yet look at things like bounty and what not.. hows that really so entirely different? You are paying for someone to basically suffer. granted its not fun but in the end attacking and being attacked is a major part of the game.

its OutWAR not OutFRIEND.

[OMFGsPaZz]

Eaxactly!!!!

[magnetite]

I agree attacking and being attacked is part of the game, but some crews take it too far. 2 months on a crews hitlist for absolutely no reason, full of 60-70s, 20-30 attacks a day? Whats all that about? How are you supposed to get stronger when these players strip everything you have constantly?

[Elwood]

I agree attacking and being attacked is part of the game, but some crews take it too far. 2 months on a crews hitlist for absolutely no reason, full of 60-70s, 20-30 attacks a day? Whats all that about? How are you supposed to get stronger when these players strip everything you have constantly?

my suggestion would be to retrain your skills and train loyalty then if your exp means that much to you..

[bolognaman]

my suggestion would be to retrain your skills and train loyalty then if your exp means that much to you..

what if they dont have pts?

[minimario]

lol yea hitman progs are gay. but the whole pay to get off hitlist is just an outwar thing. were gonna rape you unless you feel like paying us to make be nice :P

[ItachiUchiha]

This thread reminds me of the 4 hitlists I was on last year. The first (which resulted in the other three) was was due to some crybaby being hled in the last crew I was in. The dude up and hitlists everyone in that crew (Note he was one of those high level noobs that says "hit me and I'll rape you"). I attack back and I end up getting declared a personal enemy and ends up fighting him for 5 months straight. Despite the exploss I endured, I pwned him, his crew, his multies (made him disband 2 multi crews he made), crewsa he joined that he had hitlist me, the idiots who decided to help him since he begged the people of outwar to help him, and even made him use exp lock (he was starting shit with someone else at the time so it wasn't just me that caused that). Then he tried to get a crew in the top 3 to hl me and that failed horribly (battled a few of their members for a month and then they just gave up lol). The poor guy lost his will to fight after that.


The moral of the story, those who try bully tactics, scare tactics in this game, and even high level players who like to beg their friends and other players on a lower leveled player tend to lose their will to fight if you fight back long enough. Also, I was level 41 with champ and then items from the war of zhul back at the time. The other guy was a level 54 with blackhand items during the clash. Here's another moral, if you can't fight back or can't handle getting hit, losing exp, or even getting hit back then 1) don't play outwar and 2) don't clash against relentless, ballsy people like me ;).

[OMFGsPaZz]

^^^nice story :D

OW needs more ppl like that, who arent afraid to fight back...most ppl these days are just WHIMPS lol

i just thought about it, and sure ur HL'ed by a crew...but ive been on atleast 1 HL for the past 4 months and been bountied a few times too and it dosent bother me one bit. i got on today, and i had been hit atleast 20 times(and im only HL by 1 crew)...so if you cant take gettin hit 10-15 times a day at a lower lv, then i cant wait to see you cry when you get 50+

[Dark_Dragon_311]

This thread reminds me of the 4 hitlists I was on last year. The first (which resulted in the other three) was was due to some crybaby being hled in the last crew I was in. The dude up and hitlists everyone in that crew (Note he was one of those high level noobs that says "hit me and I'll rape you"). I attack back and I end up getting declared a personal enemy and ends up fighting him for 5 months straight. Despite the exploss I endured, I pwned him, his crew, his multies (made him disband 2 multi crews he made), crewsa he joined that he had hitlist me, the idiots who decided to help him since he begged the people of outwar to help him, and even made him use exp lock (he was starting shit with someone else at the time so it wasn't just me that caused that). Then he tried to get a crew in the top 3 to hl me and that failed horribly (battled a few of their members for a month and then they just gave up lol). The poor guy lost his will to fight after that.


The moral of the story, those who try bully tactics, scare tactics in this game, and even high level players who like to beg their friends and other players on a lower leveled player tend to lose their will to fight if you fight back long enough. Also, I was level 41 with champ and then items from the war of zhul back at the time. The other guy was a level 54 with blackhand items during the clash. Here's another moral, if you can't fight back or can't handle getting hit, losing exp, or even getting hit back then 1) don't play outwar and 2) don't clash against relentless, ballsy people like me ;).

reminds me a lot of this noob named jcb9310 on Sigil. he hl'd me, i've returned every hit from his crew, now he got me on Maximus [Brood] hl. and i'm sure they're pissed by now cuz i keep returning their hits. way i see it, if u have to have other crews fight ur battles, then don't start in 1st place

[almightywoodygod]

When i started the game it was full of challenges. Now i see certain people abusing their power to get low level chars hitlisted and you need to pay 15 points to get off the HL.
I refused that , its going against my principles of fair play.
Also profound language is being used, We can report on security issues but not on these issuses.
A good fight and hl ok, but not for personal profit. What is rampid going to about these racketeers?


Not that it has happened to me for a while, but if I do get HL'ed and someone wants to charge me points to get off, I just ignore it. sooner or later I will get taken off the list so they can put someone on there that will pay.

[gangsters14224]

I think players who demand pts for HL removal should be BANNED!

[Itai]

I think players who demand pts for HL removal should be BANNED!

lol... admins cant do anything about this. If somebody leet on outwar wants to make sure some noob player will never grow again, he can do that. Its not illegal, it just makes him a unfair player.

And this is a way for people to make points, or get hold of potions. Its how the game works... you have to live with it :)

[DANKFIRE]

lol nubs. i got paid 1k to remove 2ppl from my hl about a week ago. they were perm hld for their axions and musta thought paying was a pretty good idea. got over 200ppl hld. 36 lvl 70s alone on it ;p if you dont wanna be attacked play a game that doesnt have war in its name. -_-