View Full Version : Wave of Zhul 2/7/2008
Magicnick
02-06-2008, 05:43 PM
The official Wave of Zhul thread for the week of 2/7/2008.
Please post any related material to this weeks war here!
-=MagicNiCK=-
snake
02-06-2008, 05:44 PM
The official Wave of Zhul thread for the week of 2/7/2008.
Please post any related material to this weeks war here!
-=MagicNiCK=-
is it the same as woz before?
or totaly differnt items/flasks
andylord
02-06-2008, 05:44 PM
The official Wave of Zhul thread for the week of 2/7/2008.
Please post any related material to this weeks war here!
-=MagicNiCK=-
why not on sigil yet but on the rest :/
xpwirus
02-06-2008, 05:44 PM
will there be any new receipes/items?
exdbx
02-06-2008, 05:45 PM
So its tomorrow judging by the date given?
Wizzy
02-06-2008, 05:47 PM
He said "week of" not "starting from".
exdbx
02-06-2008, 05:58 PM
He said "week of" not "starting from".
yes i do know he said week of but why choose tomorrows date to list the week.
JGeatsU
02-06-2008, 06:00 PM
it should be out today since all the gods spawned did that last time 2. he could be leading us on like pure.
Wizzy
02-06-2008, 06:03 PM
Maybe there isn't going to be a WoZ on Sigil because we have the most DCAAers
/me whistles innocently :rolleyes:
JGeatsU
02-06-2008, 06:05 PM
sucks for sigil then but ti should come out today
papercut36
02-06-2008, 06:08 PM
Whoever would dcaa woz mobs is dumb anyway. Anyway bring woz so bored.
TwoBlindSheep
02-06-2008, 06:08 PM
didn't know you could dcaa woz mobs
Wizzy
02-06-2008, 06:09 PM
The waves change every few days or so so there would be no point in making one.
JGeatsU
02-06-2008, 06:11 PM
well w.e woz should be out tonight if not it will be out tommaro morning or after noon last time all the gods spawned woz was out later on from what i remember
xRage
02-06-2008, 06:27 PM
cant u admins just spawn woz? u got LOADS of people just waiting, and a respond to the "will it be the old woz items/recipes or new ones?" would have been nice to
xFallen
02-06-2008, 06:35 PM
its new stuff
why is sigil always alst for everythign lol
wizdew
02-06-2008, 07:19 PM
why is sigil always alst for everythign lol
Cause sigil was first to be on OW
samjocko
02-06-2008, 07:20 PM
Waht does damage to the mind clippers and mind cannons?
NereidAlbel
02-06-2008, 07:26 PM
You need a weapon that deals holy damage.
AceAlpha
02-06-2008, 07:28 PM
the equipable items are the same as the first war, also the quest items ar the same? hmm.. :p are the recipies also the same :D
samjocko
02-06-2008, 07:32 PM
thanks you rock
infiniterage666
02-06-2008, 07:39 PM
Loving the wave :D.
Hating the lag (probably from the now thousands of DCAA's) =/.
Nothing you can really do though, so 10/10 :D
the lag is insane lol i cant move ive got a great white screen
PinkPwnY
02-06-2008, 08:19 PM
do you need the recipe to get the item from the cauldron?
or say.. if i had the quest items..and my friend had the recipe. could he tell me the ingredients and i could get the item?
DarkPimpGuy
02-06-2008, 08:32 PM
weapons seem kinda weak compared to the mobs this round.
Vorrex
02-06-2008, 08:38 PM
Yeah im lvl 43 with the holy longsword fully skilled and i can't even kill the lvl 45 mob with full set of holy items
Srpskimafijas
02-06-2008, 08:52 PM
iam lvl58 skilled and cant even do 1 damage to them whts the trick?
NereidAlbel
02-06-2008, 08:56 PM
They're immune to everything but holy damage...go kill the lvl 25 ones until you get a holy dagger or holy staff (or buy one of my 12 daggers...)
infiniterage666
02-06-2008, 09:01 PM
Level 48-not even half a holy set and can kill the lvl 60's.
Not that hard once you get about 600 resist.
nice idea, but the lag is insane i can hardly do nothing, wish it was like sr where u paided to do it that way it wouldnt be so laggy as the server really cant handle everyone moving, where as in sr now it lag free and moves quick since u kicked people out and mobs cost 25 rage now
papercut36
02-06-2008, 09:22 PM
yeah fix the lag wow its anoying to kill 300 mobs with it
Jeter290
02-06-2008, 09:36 PM
does anyone know any recipes or what u get from each mob?
dragonspirit
02-06-2008, 09:52 PM
hey i wasn't here for the last war.
so i don't understand what the formals tell.
like the part 1, 2, 3.
Do we need to add all three parts together to make something?
Jeter290
02-06-2008, 09:59 PM
Yea, wait till some guides come out, thats what happened last time. u need to get the lower, middle, and upper part. 3 parts- each has different things that come from 3 different mobs, just collect what u can until some guides come out. if anyone knows any already, message me.
NereidAlbel
02-06-2008, 10:16 PM
Has anybody found a stronger weapon than the staff? The damage on this thing sucks ><
Fighter777
02-06-2008, 10:19 PM
Ok guys here's wat i got so far...
Flask part 1:
Totem
Blessing
Refined coal
Necklace part 1:
Holly book
Prayer
If any 1 got any more pieces please update the list and repost it...
infiniterage666
02-06-2008, 10:25 PM
Heres the recipes: http://www.freewebs.com/twlf/
guide made by:TheWorldslastfight
Drops are decent, two necks so far completed for me =/.
barashkukor
02-06-2008, 10:26 PM
Has anybody found a stronger weapon than the staff? The damage on this thing sucks ><
yeah, sword.Drops from the lvl 40 mind cannon
BTW, I am lvl 34. I can't touch the lvl 60 mob. Am I SOL ? Will I never get all levels/parts of components?
NereidAlbel
02-06-2008, 10:36 PM
Beating the lvl 60 is all about getting a crapload of resist...and maybe getting a buddy to skill you up.
Swudeson
02-06-2008, 10:47 PM
7/10 times I can only load half of the DC page... image only! No mobs listed... insane lag!
the__man31
02-06-2008, 10:47 PM
Did anyone get a mind stone yet??
NereidAlbel
02-06-2008, 10:49 PM
Are the actual recipe parts required for crafts this time? Or can you use the mats without finding the plans?
Egnar
02-06-2008, 11:01 PM
i've killed hundreds of 60's. . .Plenty of coal. . .No screws yet :(.
NereidAlbel
02-06-2008, 11:04 PM
Tell me about it...I could make the necklace right now if I had screws...maybe I can trade some of the other junk for some >.>
Nick or justin or who ever, dont u think the items u get are a little over powering?
giving a 1k hp neck which takes 3 days to get should be better than god items? your making the ele pres body look lame by addin all this items u really need to think about what u add u always go ott, cause the sandles u get from this wave are just as good as nar zhul boot are u serious?
exdbx
02-06-2008, 11:54 PM
halo's dont even drop :S
DarkPimpGuy
02-06-2008, 11:58 PM
this is outwar's way of obliterating its economy
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 12:01 AM
I didn't create the items. If they are overpowered, they will likely be changed.
kingmultis1_20
02-07-2008, 12:05 AM
this is some leet lag we have here..not to mention the rediculous drop rate on the items for the 1000 hp neck
free2shoulderlean
02-07-2008, 12:07 AM
I feel kinda jipped i spent $100 bucks on points, i should of just waited for the war... between this and the bi weekly 50% points and cheap PP promotions... i think you guys turn points into something that could be almost be compared to a philipino Peso... not worth very much... This game turned from an item aquisition to a point aqusition... its lame now.
frozzen
02-07-2008, 12:11 AM
...does anyone know if you can get fuel off of anyone except for the lvl 60s?
DarkPimpGuy
02-07-2008, 12:12 AM
I didn't create the items. If they are overpowered, they will likely be changed.
if you're going to do it, do it soon, because i really don't want to waste points gemming items only to see them nerfed to something weaker than what i got on.
exdbx
02-07-2008, 12:14 AM
if you're going to do it, do it soon, because i really don't want to waste points gemming items only to see them nerfed to something weaker than what i got on.
tru dat,
agreed :P
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 12:15 AM
as above. Ive already gemmed my neck thinking it was great. Will be mightily pissed if it turns out i just gemmed something worse than what i already had
xalurian
02-07-2008, 12:52 AM
Tell me about it...I could make the necklace right now if I had screws...maybe I can trade some of the other junk for some >.>
I just got a screws and bolts off a Zhul Trooper. Now all I need is Divine Aura and Refined Coal...
Tricky
02-07-2008, 01:01 AM
I didn't create the items. If they are overpowered, they will likely be changed.
well if u are gonna change the stats, maybe change them soon so ppl who are spending all day and night up for this know exactly what theyre aiming for
Tricky
02-07-2008, 01:11 AM
btw this ring from the 300/200/100 quest
+661 HP
+219 rage per hr
+219 exp per hr
+14% rampage
+2610 max rage
+10% critical hit
is wayyyyyyy too good for a simple quest lol. tone that down a bit
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 01:14 AM
btw this ring from the 300/200/100 quest
+661 HP
+219 rage per hr
+219 exp per hr
+14% rampage
+2610 max rage
+10% critical hit
is wayyyyyyy too good for a simple quest lol. tone that down a bit
But its a tediously annoying quest -_-
Tricky
02-07-2008, 01:19 AM
But its a tediously annoying quest -_-
not if this round lasts for more than 2 days
PlayaFoSho
02-07-2008, 01:22 AM
btw this ring from the 300/200/100 quest
+661 HP
+219 rage per hr
+219 exp per hr
+14% rampage
+2610 max rage
+10% critical hit
is wayyyyyyy too good for a simple quest lol. tone that down a bit
You also forgot to mention that that is 4gemmed. I think its perfect.
also you need to make playerbound quest and reg items tradeable!!!!
Fighter777
02-07-2008, 01:23 AM
What is that quest?
I've never heard of it and i can't find anything on wahza about it...
The reward does sound kik ass tho lol
Egnar
02-07-2008, 01:23 AM
this is some leet lag we have here..not to mention the rediculous drop rate on the items for the 1000 hp neck
Considering how "1337" the neck is I don't think it's ridiculous.
xalurian
02-07-2008, 01:29 AM
I also think reg. items should be tradeable. I thought they were when this started. Then, all of a sudden they weren't anymore.
Also, should we turn in the Summoning Shards we acquire as soon as we get them or save them and turn them in all at once?
GagLV
02-07-2008, 01:46 AM
Am i the only one that thinks OW is destroying their own WoZ by spreading the mobs out so much?
PlayaFoSho
02-07-2008, 01:51 AM
Am i the only one that thinks OW is destroying their own WoZ by spreading the mobs out so much?
no
also I need an admin to answer this... will the items quested like the ring of temptation be taken away once the boss is defeated? or are they here for ever? Please answer quick
fevershark
02-07-2008, 02:15 AM
I think that we should still be able to create the first items too some of us didnt get a chance to do this the first time around so we are kinda behind on the items to start with. all you would have to do really is add raw coal back in the mix
xalurian
02-07-2008, 02:44 AM
Heres the recipes: http://www.freewebs.com/twlf/
guide made by:TheWorldslastfight
Drops are decent, two necks so far completed for me =/.
Is everyone sure that these recipes are correct?
BTW, for anyone wondering about the Screws and Bolts, I got two of them within 30 mins. from the Zhul Troops.
c0ld_dark_h3art
02-07-2008, 03:35 AM
Anyone knows what mob drops it??
sirjohn159
02-07-2008, 04:15 AM
no
also I need an admin to answer this... will the items quested like the ring of temptation be taken away once the boss is defeated? or are they here for ever? Please answer quick
All items that were dropped by the War of Zhul mobs will be deleted after the round is over. The only items that won't be deleted are items created in the cauldron, or rewarded from the quests.
Here's a link for round 1 http://www.outwarstop.com/woz/round1.html
simonrobinson
02-07-2008, 04:16 AM
with the current items already out in the game and the fact that everyone has been waiting for zul to come out the stats on these items are perfectly fine..there has to be a wow facter with the first wave...its also out there for the smaller players on the game to actually be able to obtain 1 or 2 leet items which they couldnt normally achieve from raids....i think all items and stats are fine.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 04:19 AM
Overpowered items? Mate, overpowered is a mild word. After this, there wont be any point taking gods worse then sigil and even better, cause whatever they drop will be worse than what we get now. WoZ is WAY too selfdestructive on the game.
simonrobinson
02-07-2008, 04:24 AM
Overpowered items? Mate, overpowered is a mild word. After this, there wont be any point taking gods worse then sigil and even better, cause whatever they drop will be worse than what we get now. WoZ is WAY too selfdestructive on the game.
woz is out there for all players to achieve something special thats the whole point in it.
half the players dont want to fill there vaults with stuff they cant use anymore.
the smaller players now have a chance at a few decent items in the game.
while 50% of all level 60s who already have great sets get a chance to aquire 1 item that may be useful to them.
now for a year forums have been full of bring back woz there has to be a wow factor involved with this or people will just lose interest.
they should just lower drop rate so these items are much harder to obtain
thats simple answer and solution
the__man31
02-07-2008, 04:38 AM
Does anyone know what mob drops the blood of traitors??
xalurian
02-07-2008, 04:39 AM
I for one hope they don't change the stats on the items. There would be no way I could get anything like this on my own short or buying it from another person with points. Now, I might buy some points just so I can gem up my new Scarab.
xalurian
02-07-2008, 04:40 AM
All items that were dropped by the War of Zhul mobs will be deleted after the round is over. The only items that won't be deleted are items created in the cauldron, or rewarded from the quests.
Here's a link for round 1 http://www.outwarstop.com/woz/round1.html
The link he put up here shows the drops as well as the recipes.
simonrobinson
02-07-2008, 04:44 AM
I for one hope they don't change the stats on the items. There would be no way I could get anything like this on my own short or buying it from another person with points. Now, I might buy some points just so I can gem up my new Scarab.
thats the whole point in war of zhul its something that doesnt come along too often but when it does it has to be damn good because folk have waited for it.
and its meant to be good for everyone so that everybody can get something nice.
people go on about gods. doesnt matter how long this game goes on crews will always take gods.
and just for the books gods are easy to take ie all gods are easy most dead in few minutes .. woz on the other hand takes a lot of time to achieve the items..sometimes days before players get items.
now thats hard to do.. outwr should make all drops no trade and as i quoted earlier lower the drop rate and problem solved
00dragonslayer00
02-07-2008, 05:21 AM
who drops halo
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 05:43 AM
who drops halo
Brilliant question bud. I dont think that even the admins know -_-
raggy
02-07-2008, 05:56 AM
lol.. As far as i know only the 25s drop the screws, and at about a 0.5% or less drop rate or less (roughyl 1 drop per 200 kills) i've completed 2 necks and sold 3 screws so take it from me o.O oh and fast solution to the screw problem, move all ur multis to around dusty glass tavern (by officer tubs) and kill lvl 25s like hell o.O
AceAlpha
02-07-2008, 06:22 AM
lol.. As far as i know only the 25s drop the screws, and at about a 0.5% or less drop rate or less (roughyl 1 drop per 200 kills) i've completed 2 necks and sold 3 screws so take it from me o.O oh and fast solution to the screw problem, move all ur multis to around dusty glass tavern (by officer tubs) and kill lvl 25s like hell o.O
what price you sold them for?
Taz030
02-07-2008, 07:44 AM
thats the whole point in war of zhul its something that doesnt come along too often but when it does it has to be damn good because folk have waited for it.
and its meant to be good for everyone so that everybody can get something nice.
people go on about gods. doesnt matter how long this game goes on crews will always take gods.
and just for the books gods are easy to take ie all gods are easy most dead in few minutes .. woz on the other hand takes a lot of time to achieve the items..sometimes days before players get items.
now thats hard to do.. outwr should make all drops no trade and as i quoted earlier lower the drop rate and problem solved
I am sure OW would have a riot on their hands if they changed the stats on the items. Just because a few ppl complain they are too good shouldn't warrant a change. Maybe it because they can't do the quest on their main. Not sure. Jealousy could be another reason. I dunno. But I agree, WoZ is supposed to only come around once in a while, and the items we get from it are supposed to be better than what is already on the game.
makavelitehdon
02-07-2008, 07:49 AM
I like the way items are now. They are not overpowering just rare items that will only be up 1 time like some people said. Also people will add aug slots to them cause they got only 2-3 so OW will make some pts which is good idea, should have made it 1 aug slot.
But ye i dont agree that items should be changed, + this is only first wave, so this might be a start and other quests will be easy, and when the award for them comes in and it will be sh*tty are you going to argue again? cause you want a better stats item
So just take what you are given
Taz030
02-07-2008, 07:49 AM
Nick or justin or who ever, dont u think the items u get are a little over powering?
giving a 1k hp neck which takes 3 days to get should be better than god items? your making the ele pres body look lame by addin all this items u really need to think about what u add u always go ott, cause the sandles u get from this wave are just as good as nar zhul boot are u serious?
WTH gage, r u daft? WoZ items are supposed to be better than every day items we get from guardian.
I know I would be seriously PO'd if they changed the items after putting so much time into it already.
I say keep them the way they are. Make them non-trade, so ppl can't charge astronomical prices for it. 1st wave WoZ items were non-trade.
makavelitehdon
02-07-2008, 07:50 AM
Gage is like this cause he has to work this weekend and wont be able to complete
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 08:00 AM
I just wanna know what is up with the drop rates . Nearly finished the 300 200 100 quest set, have not found a single polish, wire or metal object lol. And im struggling to find my seccond screw and bolts too.
Doin pretty well on the shards list though ^_^
dyzzy_bz
02-07-2008, 08:09 AM
where do i find item listings and who drops the quest items for sure to do the quests ?
Mushi
02-07-2008, 08:10 AM
Worst part is how they have point day, wait a lil till ppl have wasted it all on items, then make this, so ppl gotta buy points again to gem stuff. Oh yeah, its prolly just 2 slots so u gotta use points to make the rest. They make more money that way =)
1000+ troops, (main+multis), not a single screw.
Doors
02-07-2008, 08:10 AM
has there been a halo found anywhere? and what happened drop rate of the screws
Mushi
02-07-2008, 08:34 AM
This is just crazy. Lowering drop rates and shit like this. Considering it was around 2 am in europe when the event started, they leave most europeans so little chance to get finished -.- Could at least wait till next wave b4 doing that. And no, u havent worked much for the items. U dont do more now than when u get ur growth to 100k+ a day. Or maybe u dont do that urself?
Arendil
02-07-2008, 08:57 AM
This is wonderful. 300k+ rage and not a single Metal Object, Random Wires, or Halo. :/
lalat
02-07-2008, 09:21 AM
what is metal object ??
could anyone tell me !!
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 09:22 AM
AWESOME! The war of zhul is back ^_^. I'm stronger than I was last time thank god for that. I saved my last sammy sosa's special sauce just for this event.
ThePog
02-07-2008, 09:36 AM
Drops have virtually stopped for the screws/halo/polish. Nice for all the europeans that were sleeping when it was released, good work *sarcasm*
exdbx
02-07-2008, 09:41 AM
why not just make rage for mobs higher and drop rate better cuz this is just annoying!
Mushi
02-07-2008, 09:42 AM
Go ow, get bananas. At least it was so laggy yesterday that many prolly lost the chance to get the neck or other items that way. Wonder if this will even get fixed or get the admins' attention.
ThePog
02-07-2008, 09:44 AM
It should do as it is the "official WoZ forum thread". When will this get fixed/rectified?
Mushi
02-07-2008, 09:46 AM
When they figure they can make money on it. That should be around now as all those quest items who doesnt drop anymore are sold out from tb, so ppl need new supplies to sell again when drop rates crash next time ^^
infiniterage666
02-07-2008, 09:51 AM
The drop rates sucked pretty bad earlier anyway ;), playing through the lag I wasted about 100k rage, only got one polish (and no wires or metal) before the drop change, much less after.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 09:53 AM
Most ppl dont have the rage (or at least not the time to use all the rage), so i guess its yet again a nice event to make good guys better and leave the rest down where they are. So much for being an "event for all who can take lvl 25 mobs" -.-
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 09:58 AM
Anyone else think they should of suspended the list of dcaa people before doing this WoZ?
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 10:00 AM
I agree with you on that one darkpoey. Apparently unlike last time, the holy crap can actually be used in a recipe now.
SickMoFo
02-07-2008, 10:01 AM
Ya the drop rates slowed right down now. It was about 11pm my time when WoZ was launched, the drop rates were good, but by 3am (10pm ow time) the game had slowed right down and I decided to go to bed. Now I can't get any Halo or Polish, and that's all I need to finish the last item :(
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 10:01 AM
2 weeks, 15% of their exp, and having to miss the WoZ... now thats punishment that would satisfy me
sabia
02-07-2008, 10:07 AM
The drop rates are just plain unfair!
Some people use 10k rage and get many screws but some people use 70-80k rage and get none.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 10:07 AM
Yeah but u see, ppl who dcaa tends to either pay money out of their own pocket, or make others do it by buying their shit, so ow would lose lotsa money by giving ppl the punishment they deserve. Always been so, and that WONT change.
infiniterage666
02-07-2008, 10:08 AM
I can agree with that, the lags almost as bad now as it was last night.
Good thing skills arn't really needed this time around :) otherwise I'd be screwed.
mudurudu
02-07-2008, 10:12 AM
2 weeks, 15% of their exp, and having to miss the WoZ... now thats punishment that would satisfy me
laggy coz ow is laggy, not because ppl r using crap like dcaa. and, if they want to suspend somebody, then 1st. players which should be suspended is Cauntessa. ok, anyway, all top guys are using this shit and all top guys are paying money to rampid, thats why all the real cheater never get suspended.
Most ppl dont have the rage (or at least not the time to use all the rage), so i guess its yet again a nice event to make good guys better and leave the rest down where they are. So much for being an "event for all who can take lvl 25 mobs" -.-
Wrong! its about to BUY potions from tb with resistance, to SPEND YOUR MONEY on rampid buying points and then upgrading urself, thats all about. if they wanted this fair, there were 10 types of mobs with 3 types of armor set u can get etc, etc.
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 10:15 AM
laggy coz ow is laggy, not because ppl r using crap like dcaa. and, if they want to suspend somebody, then 1st. players which should be suspended is Cauntessa. ok, anyway, all top guys are using this shit and all top guys are paying money to rampid, thats why all the real cheater never get suspended.
ehh when did i say people were dcaaing WoZ? You can't. I was refering to the new Poll that Justin made.
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 10:17 AM
laggy coz ow is laggy, not because ppl r using crap like dcaa. and, if they want to suspend somebody, then 1st. players which should be suspended is Cauntessa. ok, anyway, all top guys are using this shit and all top guys are paying money to rampid, thats why all the real cheater never get suspended.
Sadly enough they go to the etalkmoney website to get their progs (some of them do, not all).
Wrong! its about to BUY potions from tb with resistance, to SPEND YOUR MONEY on rampid buying points and then upgrading urself, thats all about. if they wanted this fair, there were 10 types of mobs with 3 types of armor set u can get etc, etc.
I wonder if game monitors can suspend them because if they do, I wanna be one so I can get rid of some cheaters. To hell with how much money they paid on the game. Cheaters in the game should be glad that some of us aren't in the position to suspend cheaters ;).
Arendil
02-07-2008, 10:22 AM
Well, right now I got 121 shards, and I've used a ton of furies, you'd think by now I'd of alteast got the Random wires, Metal Object, or Halo. but so far, I haven't got any of them.
Can you PLEASE fix the drop rates?
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 10:24 AM
Well, right now I got 121 shards, and I've used a ton of furies, you'd think by now I'd of alteast got the Random wires, Metal Object, or Halo. but so far, I haven't got any of them.
Can you PLEASE fix the drop rates?
Congrats on getting that many shards. You should've gotten some wires, metal objects, and halos by now. In fact, a lot of us should've had them by now. I wonder which drop rate is worse, this WoZ or the last WoZ.
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 10:25 AM
lol, definately this one i would say... :s
SkatrBill
02-07-2008, 10:27 AM
Congrats on getting that many shards. You should've gotten some wires, metal objects, and halos by now. In fact, a lot of us should've had them by now. I wonder which drop rate is worse, this WoZ or the last WoZ.
this dorp rate is horrible, the metal scraps for potions don't drop, i can't get any of the bottles that are needed, i forget what its called. and bolts and screws drop like sigil lfs on rancid...
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 10:28 AM
this dorp rate is horrible, the metal scraps for potions don't drop, i can't get any of the bottles that are needed, i forget what its called. and bolts and screws drop like sigil lfs on rancid...
lol @ sigil lfs on rancid... aka, NEVER! :(
exdbx
02-07-2008, 10:41 AM
yup drop rates on this Zhul is rediculous.
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 10:42 AM
All i have to say, is this is was i was expecting... another fail from OW...
xHuNt3r
02-07-2008, 10:44 AM
hoooooooorible drooops... btw, there arent any halos from what i see o_O
AceAlpha
02-07-2008, 10:45 AM
killed 400/500 zuhlian troopers -> 0 screws and bolts
killed 300+ mind cannons -> 0 mind stone / 0 bottle of polish
killed +/- 150 mind clippers -> 0 Master Coal / 0 Blood of Traitors / 0 Random Wires
right now the point prices for those items are insane, and some people have multiples of them, probably becuase they used an AA. making the game lagg and now they're getting points for it? Or maybe im concluding things to easy, my point is: change the drop rates! For low lvl players like me, its impossible to keep up with the rage cost :\
Arendil
02-07-2008, 10:47 AM
killed 400/500 zuhlian troopers -> 0 screws and bolts
killed 300+ mind cannons -> 0 mind stone / 0 bottle of polish
killed +/- 150 mind clippers -> 0 Master Coal / 0 Blood of Traitors / 0 Random Wires
right now the point prices for those items are insane, and some people have multiples of them, probably becuase they used an AA. making the game lagg and now they're getting points for it? Or maybe im concluding things to easy, my point is: change the drop rates! For low lvl players like me, its impossible to keep up with the rage cost :\
lol. That's all you killed. I've probably killed 1k+ of each, and havent got anything. ;/
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 10:47 AM
*thinks for a minute* Yeah, this one is more ridiculous. I just blew 13k+ rage and still didn't get anything. Hopefully this wave doesn't end til next week (a week and a half tops). That way, people can at least get some of the zhul quests done.
infiniterage666
02-07-2008, 10:48 AM
Another failure? These guys can't do anything good with you people.
They give a huge event that gives:
A Awesome neck that isn't too bad to make
A absolutely brilliant neck (best in game) that has sucky drop rates, do you really want the game flooded with this neck?
A brilliant ring better than essense for the most part
a good exp belt
tons of exp (Ok not really, but for low levels it is)
A few decent pots
Does it take effort to get these? Yes, but the point is that people always complain about pts, well now you don't need pts, just work for it. Drop rates should be low to measure everything out!
exdbx
02-07-2008, 10:51 AM
Another failure? These guys can't do anything good with you people.
They give a huge event that gives:
A Awesome neck that isn't too bad to make
A absolutely brilliant neck (best in game) that has sucky drop rates, do you really want the game flooded with this neck?
A brilliant ring better than essense for the most part
a good exp belt
tons of exp
A few decent pots
Does it take effort to get these? Yes, but the point is that people always complain about pts, well now you don't need pts, just work for it. Drop rates should be low to measure everything out!
Is it just me or is this guy trying to be sarcastic?
Arendil
02-07-2008, 10:52 AM
Another failure? These guys can't do anything good with you people.
They give a huge event that gives:
A Awesome neck that isn't too bad to make
A absolutely brilliant neck (best in game) that has sucky drop rates, do you really want the game flooded with this neck?
A brilliant ring better than essense for the most part
a good exp belt
tons of exp
A few decent pots
Does it take effort to get these? Yes, but the point is that people always complain about pts, well now you don't need pts, just work for it. Drop rates should be low to measure everything out!
Don't need points? Are you serious? Yeah, you go and try to get a couple of the items, and see if you don't use a couple furies.
ThePog
02-07-2008, 10:52 AM
The event as a whole is a good idea, but its the drop rates! They just....suck.
infiniterage666
02-07-2008, 10:53 AM
Because clearly some of the best items in the game should be easy to achieve?
The only real thing to complain about should be the lag, which makes everything about 500x harder than it should be.
Moneymk805
02-07-2008, 10:54 AM
Another failure? These guys can't do anything good with you people.
They give a huge event that gives:
A Awesome neck that isn't too bad to make
A absolutely brilliant neck (best in game) that has sucky drop rates, do you really want the game flooded with this neck?
A brilliant ring better than essense for the most part
a good exp belt
tons of exp
A few decent pots
Does it take effort to get these? Yes, but the point is that people always complain about pts, well now you don't need pts, just work for it. Drop rates should be low to measure everything out!
lol stop kissing butt. We love this event, however there are always going to be complaints and we have a good reason to complain. Over 1,300 kills on the troops and still no screws and bolts? come on...lol....that's 1,300 x 30 = OVER 35,000 RAGE. I mean seriously...who has that much rage to throw out and not get anything? people with points...well I just hate this came out so soon. I'm not making a big point purchase until end of feb. waiting on my return to show in my banking, another week or so. Which sucks because this will probably be gone by then. I just hope it stays around for a week or so. Because at the moment with these sucky items I have until next week, only getting 1,100 rpt....lol I've been trying to get the holy set, got 4 pieces now but eh....telling you....this is very rage consuming and if you don't have points for the potions, you're not going to get that set nearly as quick as the others and may not even get a piece if this thing ends in the next day or 2.
Btw you're crazy, points do play a big factor here. The guys leading big crews selling those cr items who have tons of points and are buying Max rage pots etc...to get ahead and to keep attacking all day. :( Ah well. This is still a cool event! =)
Arendil
02-07-2008, 10:55 AM
Because clearly some of the best items in the game should be easy to achieve?
So you're saying it should be set so if you use 250k+ rage, you don't get a single one of the rarer ingredients?
infiniterage666
02-07-2008, 10:58 AM
lol stop kissing butt. We love this event, however there are always going to be complaints and we have a good reason to complain. Over 1,300 kills on the troops and still no screws and bolts? come on...lol....that's 1,300 x 30 = OVER 35,000 RAGE. I mean seriously...who has that much rage to throw out and not get anything? people with points...well I just hate this came out so soon. I'm not making a big point purchase until end of feb. waiting on my return to show in my banking, another week or so. Which sucks because this will probably be gone by then. I just hope it stays around for a week or so. Because at the moment with these sucky items I have until next week, only getting 1,100 rpt....lol I've been trying to get the holy set, got 4 pieces now but eh....telling you....this is very rage consuming and if you don't have points for the potions, you're not going to get that set nearly as quick as the others and may not even get a piece if this thing ends in the next day or 2.
Btw you're crazy, points do play a big factor here. The guys leading big crews selling those cr items who have tons of points and are buying Max rage pots etc...to get ahead and to keep attacking all day. :( Ah well. This is still a cool event! =)
Me:level 48 with only semi decent items. Had no points at the start of WoZ. Made two scarabs, sold one for 500 pts and kept the other. Only bought two recharge the furies.
I now have: A scarab, the ring, the belt, and a pot. Took a few hours (8) of manual DCing, but it's possible.
It's not kissing butt, it's making a point. These are some of the best items in the game, look at the normal scarab for gods sake. Whips the eye down town, and it really isn't that hard to make. Do you honestly want the items to spam the server, lowering prices even more?
Egnar
02-07-2008, 11:01 AM
Don't need points? Are you serious? Yeah, you go and try to get a couple of the items, and see if you don't use a couple furies.
Doing the quest you get 2 super rage potions, a free sammy and a fury. On top of 2 free flasks. . .To be honest, that alone is worth it.
Moneymk805
02-07-2008, 11:11 AM
Me:level 48 with only semi decent items. Had no points at the start of WoZ. Made two scarabs, sold one for 500 pts and kept the other. Only bought two recharge the furies.
I now have: A scarab, the ring, the belt, and a pot. Took a few hours (8) of manual DCing, but it's possible.
It's not kissing butt, it's making a point. These are some of the best items in the game, look at the normal scarab for gods sake. Whips the eye down town, and it really isn't that hard to make. Do you honestly want the items to spam the server, lowering prices even more?
:( Wish I could make the scarab but the screws are the only part I'm missing and I can't find em anywhere and don't have the rage to blow on the 25s in the dusty glass tavern and they are 50 rage per... =/ ...so I mean eh
Mushi
02-07-2008, 11:15 AM
Pots aint worth shit cause of the droprate. U sit there, empty of rage, with a pot, and u lack the last item. U use the pot, max rage, use rage, and ur still sitting there without the last piece.
The droprate is sucky atm, yes. Some items cant be got at all. But the worst part of the whole thing is, the first hours of the event, the droprates were so that every1 could live with it. Problem is, it was pretty laggy, so not very many ppl got anywhere. Some used an hour just to get on, while others ran around with their dcaa.
By then, it was night for half the players of the game, and the drop rates made sure that all the good, paying, cheating, corrupt guys got their shit, plus a few lucky ones that didnt have as much lag. Now, when us europeans get on, we dont get those good drops. We use 5 times the rage, and we get shit. If u took away all the items that dropped the first hours b4 drop rates fuqed up, this would all be fair, but it aint. Ow fuqed up by not testing their shit (good enough), and gave some ppl a way too big advantage by doing so, and that is to me extremely unfair.
Rampid_Misery
02-07-2008, 11:17 AM
Pots aint worth shit cause of the droprate. U sit there, empty of rage, with a pot, and u lack the last item. U use the pot, max rage, use rage, and ur still sitting there without the last piece.
The droprate is sucky atm, yes. Some items cant be got at all. But the worst part of the whole thing is, the first hours of the event, the droprates were so that every1 could live with it. Problem is, it was pretty laggy, so not very many ppl got anywhere. Some used an hour just to get on, while others ran around with their dcaa.
By then, it was night for half the players of the game, and the drop rates made sure that all the good, paying, cheating, corrupt guys got their shit, plus a few lucky ones that didnt have as much lag. Now, when us europeans get on, we dont get those good drops. We use 5 times the rage, and we get shit. If u took away all the items that dropped the first hours b4 drop rates fuqed up, this would all be fair, but it aint. Ow fuqed up by not testing their shit (good enough), and gave some ppl a way too big advantage by doing so, and that is to me extremely unfair.
Drop rates have been the same since the event started.
exdbx
02-07-2008, 11:22 AM
Drop rates have been the same since the event started.
Pure you gotta be kidding lol, OMG!
Mushi
02-07-2008, 11:24 AM
Drop rates have been the same since the event started.
yeah and u never changed anything else like making stuff player bound, making some quest stuff from pots to activateable quest items to normal quest items either, have u... And i guess the fact that yesterday, even with the lag, ppl used less than an hour to get the neck, while they now, as u can see, use 100k rage+ and still dont get anything, doesnt mean anything...
ThePog
02-07-2008, 11:24 AM
Explain how some people have managed to get multiple items when it first started, but now nothing then?
crypticlifestyle
02-07-2008, 11:28 AM
Everyone wanted woz back, its back, now they complain...lol...Woz isnt supposed to be easy, but it is fun, so drop rates are what they are...Some people are lucky, most of us arnt like myself...But its cool, cause it's still fun, and i think ow was pretty generous this time around giving rage pots for the quest turn in's...I'm enjoying this very much, props to the admins...Job well done~>
Rampid_Misery
02-07-2008, 11:29 AM
yeah and u never changed anything else like making stuff player bound, making some quest stuff from pots to activateable quest items to normal quest items either, have u... And i guess the fact that yesterday, even with the lag, ppl used less than an hour to get the neck, while they now, as u can see, use 100k rage+ and still dont get anything, doesnt mean anything...
The holy gear was tradeable at first then we made it player-bound. Big deal?
I don't know what this means, "making some quest stuff from pots to activateable quest items to normal quest items either". There wasn't much lag when it first went off which made moving around faster.
The drop rates are between 3% and .05%. Yes that is very low but the rewards are killer. If we had used less powerful items and higher drop rates you guys would be complaining that the items were useless and that WoZ is a waste of time.
ThePog
02-07-2008, 11:31 AM
He meant that at first, Prayer and Fire and Water were castable pots in the potion part of the backpack, then they got moved to quest items, then their pot abilities were taken away.
infiniterage666
02-07-2008, 11:32 AM
The only thing worth complaining about is the lag, which OW probably can't do much about right now. Besides that Woz is going pretty good.
Moneymk805
02-07-2008, 11:33 AM
The drop rates are between 3% and .05%. Yes that is very low but the rewards are killer. If we had used less powerful items and higher drop rates you guys would be complaining that the items were useless and that WoZ is a waste of time.
Alright, well agreed. Fair enough. =)
Mushi
02-07-2008, 11:33 AM
There was much lag, welcome, and what i mean is, some stuff used to make the potions from the recipe, was first potions themselves, like holy water. Then it was changed into the quest items part of the inventory, but they still had stats from when they were pots, and could still be activated. I never tried it, but i saw several guys running around having their stats increased by holy water and the like (could see in their profile where all cast skills are shown).
Rampid_Misery
02-07-2008, 11:34 AM
He meant that at first, Prayer and Fire and Water were castable pots in the potion part of the backpack, then they got moved to quest items, then their pot abilities were taken away.
No idea why Nick did that but it doesn't effect much. The bonuses would do little against these elemental mobs and the items will be deleted once the wave is over.
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 11:36 AM
The drop rates are between 3% and .05%. Yes that is very low but the rewards are killer. If we had used less powerful items and higher drop rates you guys would be complaining that the items were useless and that WoZ is a waste of time.
idk.. people spending hour after hour hitting these mobs and not getting a thing seems like a waste of time, lol
TheTurkishMafia1989
02-07-2008, 11:36 AM
Killed over 3000+ of these lvl 25 mobs and still no screw n bolts:( at least fix the lag admins..
crypticlifestyle
02-07-2008, 11:37 AM
idk.. people spending hour after hour hitting these mobs and not getting a thing seems like a waste of time, lol Dude lol, considering the stats on the stuff it's far from a waiste of time...Sexxy as hell...
Moneymk805
02-07-2008, 11:40 AM
Dude lol, considering the stats on the stuff it's far from a waiste of time...Sexxy as hell...
I just wish there where pages already made where you could see exactly what to kill to get screws etc... but since it's so fresh then arg guess what won't be happening at the moment. I can't find them degum screws and bolts! lol.
crypticlifestyle
02-07-2008, 11:43 AM
I just wish there where pages already made where you could see exactly what to kill to get screws etc... but since it's so fresh then arg guess what won't be happening at the moment. I can't find them degum screws and bolts! lol.
They drop from the lvl 25 mobs :)
http://www.outwarstop.com/woz/round1.html
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 11:45 AM
Well I gotta wait til my main's rage fills up. I guess all I can do now is try with my multi (at least I have recharge the rage on 5 of my multis. Hopefully I can get the stuff with them.
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 11:45 AM
They drop from the lvl 25 mobs :)
I'l believe it when i see it.....
Moneymk805
02-07-2008, 11:47 AM
Well I'm finally almost done with my 300/300 quest hehe =) Everyone is getting it done I'm freaking getting left behind, muahah. Well I just hope this wave doesn't end for a few days ATLEAST. That way I can get atleast half of this stuff done. =) If not oh well what can ya do. This event is still something to do and it's fun so far. Anyways be back on these forums later. Thanks for the help.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 11:48 AM
The drop rates are between 3% and .05%. Yes that is very low but the rewards are killer. If we had used less powerful items and higher drop rates you guys would be complaining that the items were useless and that WoZ is a waste of time.
That explains why i can see so many halos and shoes around here, and why ppl suddenly trades 4g POTW or 4g seal on rancid for a single quest piece, unlike what happened during the first hours where screws where given away between people...
Keylimepie
02-07-2008, 11:50 AM
You should add an "Uncook" button to the cauldron, this way if someone makes a mistake they can fix it (Ie: wasting metal objects on a flask, that you have 3 of). This would be awesome.
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 11:50 AM
yeah at the starting people in my crew were giving out screws to help eachother :/
Egnar
02-07-2008, 11:58 AM
You should add an "Uncook" button to the cauldron, this way if someone makes a mistake they can fix it (Ie: wasting metal objects on a flask, that you have 3 of). This would be awesome.
Then metal objects would be free since you get 2 of the flasks from quests.
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 12:03 PM
I think they should of made it quests & not drops in new rooms. This would of stopped dcaa users as new room wouldnt be put into progs yet.
Anyways, i got most of what you dont have, except halo & the blood. So they do drop, but some drop for some, the others drop for others so ye, dam shame they no trade.
More like they're most likely to drop for some and less for others. Sadly enough, I have most except for the blood, halo, and screws on my main account but I'm luckier under 2 of my multi accounts. Thats pretty annoying in a way,
chnseboi35
02-07-2008, 12:06 PM
You know what would be a much better system?
Having drop rate be a ratio and not a percentage. What do I mean?
I mean that you should set it so that out of 100 tries you get one screw instead of having .5% or 3%. This way you're guaranteed to get at least one of every item instead of relying on luck.
Mathematically they can be set equal so that 3 to .5% = 100:3 to 200:1, but with percentages there's no guarantee of getting a drop anytime soon whereas you know you'll get at least a certain amount within a certain amount of attacks.
You guys get what I'm saying?
Mushi
02-07-2008, 12:11 PM
Yeah ur saying that luck wont be needed to get anywhere, but rpt. Not perfect(nothing is), but a much better solution in my eyes.
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 12:18 PM
You know what would be a much better system?
Having drop rate be a ratio and not a percentage. What do I mean?
I mean that you should set it so that out of 100 tries you get one screw instead of having .5% or 3%. This way you're guaranteed to get at least one of every item instead of relying on luck.
Mathematically they can be set equal so that 3 to .5% = 100:3 to 200:1, but with percentages there's no guarantee of getting a drop anytime soon whereas you know you'll get at least a certain amount within a certain amount of attacks.
You guys get what I'm saying?
So the more rage you use, the better your chances are of getting the item. Yeah, I get it. Even though it would also mean that anyone with a hell of a lot of rage are going to be getting a lot more of the items, but everyone participating in the war of zhul will have a better chance of getting the items too. That will hopefully lessen the chances of people paying a ridiculous amount of points to those that (lets be honest here) really don't need anymore points since they already have enough. It would also (even though it wouldn't completely do it but) help things get more balanced. As I said in the title of this post, this sounds like a better solution to me.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Its always been the guy with the most rpt who tends to get the good stuff, especially if he does things fast (aadc) and have time to do several multis and what not. But this makes it more fair, and gives u what u pay for, to put it that way.
NightWolf
02-07-2008, 12:25 PM
This is unfair, there are items that arent dropping anything, for example Metal Objects, Random Wires and HALO! I havent seen a single Halo on Zimbob server...
skydragon666
02-07-2008, 12:33 PM
This is unfair, there are items that arent dropping anything, for example Metal Objects, Random Wires and HALO! I havent seen a single Halo on Zimbob server...
I Haven't Seen 1 Halo On Any Server And For Example If Drop & was 0.3%
1 Should have Droped By Now
Mushi
02-07-2008, 12:38 PM
I Haven't Seen 1 Halo On Any Server And For Example If Drop & was 0.3%
1 Should have Droped By Now
Of course they drop, and there was no lag either o_0
exdbx
02-07-2008, 12:41 PM
if the drop rate is so slow atleast put more mobs in there
chnseboi35
02-07-2008, 12:48 PM
Even though it would also mean that anyone with a hell of a lot of rage are going to be getting a lot more of the items, but everyone participating in the war of zhul will have a better chance of getting the items too.
Well then simply make it so that those with higher max rage have a higher ratio to deal with.
For instance, those with 2k max rage have a ratio of 50:1 for screw, those with 5k max rage have a ratio of 100:1 for screw, those with 10k max rage have 150:1 for screw, so on and so forth. Of course the ratio can be tweaked, but thats the general idea.
Firestarter
02-07-2008, 12:57 PM
if u gonna tell me that u will end this woz round on sigil in less than 24 hours, than this is complete bull$h*t, specially for the europeans who were sleeping when u launched the war on sigil. at least normal people, rofl.
Sigil: Medium-High
Torax: Medium-High
Fabar: Medium
Zimbob: Medium-Low
Rancid: Medium-Low
chnseboi35
02-07-2008, 01:00 PM
Clearly someone didnt want to keep their shards in their backpack so they submitted em and now they cut the WoZ time down to like...a few hours.
Moneymk805
02-07-2008, 01:01 PM
if u gonna tell me that u will end this woz round on sigil in less than 24 hours, than this is complete bull$h*t, specially for the europeans who were sleeping when u launched the war on sigil. at least normal people, rofl.
Sigil: Medium-High
Torax: Medium-High
Fabar: Medium
Zimbob: Medium-Low
Rancid: Medium-Low
Seriously WTF why is it upping so fast...I mean it's going to be done really quick now...I swear if it's done with by this time tomorrow, I will never participate in War of Zhul again....I swear I'm still working on the kill quest, atleast let me get 1 freaking quest done ffs...lol
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 01:01 PM
Aww man, that is wrong on so many levels. Some people didn't even get a chance to fight this wave and some were late. I guess I'll only be able to do one kill quest.......with my ****ing multi. I didn't even get to finish using my main due to running out of rage.
jeffers1986
02-07-2008, 01:05 PM
I cant even kill the level 60 mob. I could kill the 25s and 40s completely unskilled with no resist gear, yet I cant kill a lvl 60 with most of the resist gear and all skills on. And to top it off, im lvl 49. Somethings very wrong there. Shouldnt have gotten my hopes up...
makavelitehdon
02-07-2008, 01:05 PM
the drop rate on wires, bottles, halo, screws needs to be checked, ive used 3 furys 3 super rage potions and didnt they are not droping
DJR0CKY99
02-07-2008, 01:06 PM
would personally like to thank all of outwar for again pissing everyone off that is doing this shit. you ***** about all the little thing and screw over the honest ones. gotta love it. i have been doing zhul for 21 hours now and or since it launched and still cant finish it cause drop rate fricken blows. way to go nice job i hope you loose more members of this shit game
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 01:07 PM
21 hours? Damn, you should've gotten at least something out of it. How much rage did you use?
xxheroinxx
02-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Make it so blood isn't tradeable please.
some ppl have used like 300k rage no rare drops -.-
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Make it so screws and bolts isn't tradeable either. That way no one will have to pay such a ridiculous price for them lol.
Arendil
02-07-2008, 01:23 PM
some ppl have used like 300k rage no rare drops -.-
That would be me. I said way back that the drop right was really messed up. I've used about 13 furies with 23-24k MR, and yet, no wires, metal, or halo. They probably messed up and set the drop rate to .03% - .0005% :/
SkatrBill
02-07-2008, 01:24 PM
umm i've used tons and tons of rage and don't seem to be getting that many peices for the items, i know wires are hard to get, but why metal scraps? their used in flasks, and it seems as if no Screws and Bolts have droped since yesterday : /...
am i just extremly unlucky? or what?
ThePog
02-07-2008, 01:28 PM
The drop rates are between 3% and .05%. Yes that is very low but the rewards are killer. If we had used less powerful items and higher drop rates you guys would be complaining that the items were useless and that WoZ is a waste of time.
Again, with the number of people killing the little buggers, i severely doubt that the drops are actually working.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 01:32 PM
HELLOOOOOO, CANT U SEE THEYR WORKING? OF COURSE THEYR WORKING!!! AND THE LAG?? THERES NO LAG, NOOO NOT AT ALL, ITS ALL AS IT SHOULD BE!!!!! not...
HiddenGuardian
02-07-2008, 01:34 PM
I find it amazing how the makers do something nice like give people the opportunity to get these leet ass items and yet still so many find room to ***** and moan about it.. Good job being miserable low life's go out and get some sun or a girlfriend maybe you'll feel better about yourselves
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 01:35 PM
i got bolts the first 5 minutes of the attack, and haven't got any since. :( porsche got 2 so far. she has 2 necklaces now.
jd
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 01:35 PM
I find it amazing how the makers do something nice like give people the opportunity to get these leet ass items and yet still so many find room to ***** and moan about it.. Good job being miserable low life's go out and get some sun or a girlfriend maybe you'll feel better about yourselves
lol... i do this for fun. this isn't my life, and i agree bro.
jd
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 01:36 PM
"oppurtinity" LOL.
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 01:38 PM
I find it amazing how the makers do something nice like give people the opportunity to get these leet ass items and yet still so many find room to ***** and moan about it.. Good job being miserable low life's go out and get some sun or a girlfriend maybe you'll feel better about yourselves
Just because someone complains about something in this game, doesn't mean that they need to get some sun or a girlfriend. That method of thinking is just plain idiotic. Also if you have even tried to get the items, you'll see what the hell we're complaining about.
HiddenGuardian
02-07-2008, 01:38 PM
"oppurtinity" LOL.
op·por·tu·ni·ty (pr-tn-t, -ty-)
n. pl. op·por·tu·ni·ties
1.
a. A favorable or advantageous circumstance or combination of circumstances.
b. A favorable or suitable occasion or time.
2. A chance for progress or advancement.***
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 01:40 PM
op·por·tu·ni·ty (pr-tn-t, -ty-)
n. pl. op·por·tu·ni·ties
1.
a. A favorable or advantageous circumstance or combination of circumstances.
b. A favorable or suitable occasion or time.
2. A chance for progress or advancement.***
not the items.... lol..
jd
HiddenGuardian
02-07-2008, 01:40 PM
Just because someone complains about something in this game, doesn't mean that they need to get some sun or a girlfriend. That method of thinking is just plain idiotic. Also if you have even tried to get the items, you'll see what the hell we're complaining about.
lol i have tried to get the items and ive gotten a couple of them and trying for the rest i understand why they made the drop rate low and i have no problem with it lol your problem is you expect everything to be handed to you.. do you really think they would just be like "Hey, heres a 1k hp neck thanks for being a good player"
Mushi
02-07-2008, 01:41 PM
I find it amazing how the makers do something nice like give people the opportunity to get these leet ass items and yet still so many find room to ***** and moan about it.. Good job being miserable low life's go out and get some sun or a girlfriend maybe you'll feel better about yourselves
Cant, with these droprates we dont have time to go out and get gfs and a life... Dont tell my gf though, shell be so pissed!
SeqeR
02-07-2008, 01:41 PM
Hmmmmm, the drop rate sucks at least get the drop rate up on screw and bolts so ppl can finish the first neck quest. Nice job ow, finally having fun again.
*and do something about the lag*
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 01:43 PM
lol i have tried to get the items and ive gotten a couple of them and trying for the rest i understand why they made the drop rate low and i have no problem with it lol your problem is you expect everything to be handed to you.. do you really think they would just be like "Hey, heres a 1k hp neck thanks for being a good player"
Are you an idiot or something? I don't expect everything to be handed to me at all so where the hell did you come up with such a half baked assumption?
Mushi
02-07-2008, 01:43 PM
lol i have tried to get the items and ive gotten a couple of them and trying for the rest i understand why they made the drop rate low and i have no problem with it lol your problem is you expect everything to be handed to you.. do you really think they would just be like "Hey, heres a 1k hp neck thanks for being a good player"
More like "Hey, You've used several multis and your main trying to get a certain item. Well, here it finaly is *gives screws*"
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 01:43 PM
wasn't the eggnog drops suck as well? thats why i didn't even do that one.
jd
Bignate
02-07-2008, 01:49 PM
Meh i said screw it about 10 hours ago and 70k rage in...just no point to go blind looking for items that seem to not even exist. i got my scarab and my ring, which are better items then i had so i'm satisfied, considering i couldnt even beat the lvl 40's last time.
but one question, HAS ANYONE FOUND A HALO ON ANY SERVERS.
be funny as hell:
player- We cant find Halo's
Rampid- Oops we forgot to put them in the game.
Also why is it my zhul page shows sigil/torax @ med high, Fabar @ med and zimb/ranc @med low for me, but on most other members in my crew it still says low for all.
HiddenGuardian
02-07-2008, 01:50 PM
Are you an idiot or something? I don't expect everything to be handed to me at all so where the hell did you come up with such a half baked assumption?
Im getting that assumption from the fact that your complaining theyre so hard to get.. so obviously you dont want to work for it.. yeah its hard ive been attacking all day today without a single rare drop but you dont see me sitting here whining about it do you? I agree with everyone in saying I wish it was higher but I'm also completely understanding of why they did it the way they did.. all im saying is take the chance youve been given and be grateful instead of whining about free stuff.. Think about how immature you guys look.. its not the creaters that ruin the game theyre only trying to help.. you can either take it or leave it and if you feel that strongly against the fact that they actually made it challenging then i suggest you quit the game.. and this isnt directed at Itachi either its directed at everyone who's been whining about all this
Mushi
02-07-2008, 01:58 PM
Many ppl far up there had their neck done within an hour. They had the same lag, and that early, ur rpt means nothing. 12 hours later, noone gets shit, even though its less lag, and they do it faster than those who did it in the beginning. That is to me bs and pretty unfair.
madmuis
02-07-2008, 02:16 PM
Halos suddenly drop alot for people.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 02:18 PM
Hahaha they forgot to put in halos and now they just send in a lot
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 02:22 PM
Go figure.
asdffdasafsd
02-07-2008, 02:24 PM
having an insane amount of lag? WoZ is awesome, congrats on that part, but seriously, when it takes 5 seconds to move through each room in dc, and even more to open tabs for each mob, it gets ridiculous. Will the lag be fixed soon? Preferably before the wave goes away so people can get a chance..
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 02:31 PM
no.... really?? i mean could they have reallt forgot?
jd
belgiumdude
02-07-2008, 02:35 PM
it wasn't forgotten, the drop rate was just 0.03%
it now has been increased
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 02:39 PM
lol
That's about all I can say about this thread.
Everything besides the halo complaints (there was an issue with it dropping) is completely ridiculous. You can get absolutely sick items at extremely low levels with the WoZ. Yeah, you have to work a lot harder than the level 70s (duh, their accounts are stronger, that's how it works...) but it's still completely possible for a level 30 to get most if not all of the items with some luck and hard work. Is it less likely for the 30 to get the sick neck than the 70? Yeah. Rightly so, they're a 70!
Apparently you guys DIDN'T want the WoZ.
AceAlpha
02-07-2008, 02:41 PM
for the lagg: atleast ban all the AA's they're not that hard to detect, mostly in 1 room with like 20 accounts with the same name :\
x123rgn123x
02-07-2008, 02:43 PM
lol
That's about all I can say about this thread.
Everything besides the halo complaints (there was an issue with it dropping) is completely ridiculous. You can get absolutely sick items at extremely low levels with the WoZ. Yeah, you have to work a lot harder than the level 70s (duh, their accounts are stronger, that's how it works...) but it's still completely possible for a level 30 to get most if not all of the items with some luck and hard work. Is it less likely for the 30 to get the sick neck than the 70? Yeah. Rightly so, they're a 70!
Apparently you guys DIDN'T want the WoZ.
metal objects need higher drop rate. I've blown 5 furys at 16k a pop searching
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 02:44 PM
lol
That's about all I can say about this thread.
Apparently you guys DIDN'T want the WoZ.
i love the woz. i just don't like the lag. i feel you should work for everything, but i don't understand the drop rates. i had 2 bolts in the beggining and i haven't seen one yet. the necklace i have is awesome and now working on the ring. keep up the good work except for the lag...
jd
Mushi
02-07-2008, 02:45 PM
well yeah since WoZ renders all uve payd and done so far useless, ur right, i dont want it. Nice observasion. But hey, what wont u do for money...
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 02:45 PM
justin suspend the list of dcaa'ers now lol with the penalty of 2 weeks and 15% exp lost make them pay :P
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 02:45 PM
for the lagg: atleast ban all the AA's they're not that hard to detect, mostly in 1 room with like 20 accounts with the same name :\
Hahhahahahaha not hard to detect hahahhaha.
I mean, it's not that easy. :)
lol
That's about all I can say about this thread.
Everything besides the halo complaints (there was an issue with it dropping) is completely ridiculous. You can get absolutely sick items at extremely low levels with the WoZ. Yeah, you have to work a lot harder than the level 70s (duh, their accounts are stronger, that's how it works...) but it's still completely possible for a level 30 to get most if not all of the items with some luck and hard work. Is it less likely for the 30 to get the sick neck than the 70? Yeah. Rightly so, they're a 70!
Apparently you guys DIDN'T want the WoZ.
yea but make drop rates LOW NOT IMPOSSIBLE!
and btw there are stories that all items are will be deleted after the round ends except flasks and apparently said by u so this WoZ will be complete BS???
Arendil
02-07-2008, 02:46 PM
lol
That's about all I can say about this thread.
Everything besides the halo complaints (there was an issue with it dropping) is completely ridiculous. You can get absolutely sick items at extremely low levels with the WoZ. Yeah, you have to work a lot harder than the level 70s (duh, their accounts are stronger, that's how it works...) but it's still completely possible for a level 30 to get most if not all of the items with some luck and hard work. Is it less likely for the 30 to get the sick neck than the 70? Yeah. Rightly so, they're a 70!
Apparently you guys DIDN'T want the WoZ.
Yeah, even though some of the items are useless to a lvl 30, with the lvl requirements that are now on them... >.>
Justin, put some Random Wires and a Metal Object in my BP, pl0x!
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 02:47 PM
well yeah since WoZ renders all uve payd and done so far useless, ur right, i dont want it. Nice observasion. But hey, what wont u do for money...
How so? Because the neck is really good? Then get it..
I don't think we've made ANY extra money off the WoZ. This was for the players.
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 02:47 PM
Yeah, even though some of the items are useless to a lvl 30, with the lvl requirements that are now on them... >.>
Justin, put some Random Wires and a Metal Object in my BP, pl0x!
You can trade the items with level requirements on them.
tbear
02-07-2008, 02:48 PM
Yeah, I also believe something is strange with the drop rate on metals. I've went through I think 5 furys at almost 22K each, and not one either. Actually I don't know anyone that has found one.
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 02:50 PM
Yeah, I also believe something is strange with the drop rate on metals. I've went through I think 5 furys at almost 22K each, and not one either. Actually I don't know anyone that has found one.
I just checked the drop rate; it's fine. It's just very low.
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 02:51 PM
wait... the items with time will expire, but no the ones we worked for. use your head.
jd
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 02:53 PM
LOL
been working my ass off trying to get myself a 1k neck. Now see its got a lvl req of 60.
Go figgure
darkpoey
02-07-2008, 02:53 PM
Justin how about the screws/Bolts?? Right at the starting people were finding them everywhere(during the massive lag) Someone i know got 2 in a row like right off the bat, but ever since the holy items were made player bound, it seems the drops went to hell(i did not manage to find one before it did), Just curious..
x123rgn123x
02-07-2008, 02:55 PM
I just checked the drop rate; it's fine. It's just very low.
how low is low? and who does it drop from :(
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 02:55 PM
LOL
been working my ass off trying to get myself a 1k neck. Now see its got a lvl req of 60.
Go figgure
The neck is crazy good and tradeable. You can wait until you reach 60 and have a nice neck yourself, or sell it for a lot of points. Either way, you win.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 02:55 PM
How so? Because the neck is really good? Then get it..
I don't think we've made ANY extra money off the WoZ. This was for the players.
Im trying but ur servers are sort of laggy and ur droprate not as they were. U can have ur numbers, us players have ours =)
And if u wanna do something good for the players, give cheaters a proper punishment, not a slap on the hand saying "u must never ever do this again".
The idea of the event itself is good, and it wouldve been so much better hadnt it been for, well, the lag, and how there was a much larger droprate in the beginning, making it unfair for every1 who didnt participate at that time, which is in the middle of the night in europe.
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 02:57 PM
yeah, but its a tad frustrating, you know lol. Seeing basically, one of the best items in the game in reach, and then all of a sudden not being able to use it.
I understand the reasoning behind it though, as much as i don't like it
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 02:57 PM
LOL
been working my ass off trying to get myself a 1k neck. Now see its got a lvl req of 60.
Go figgure
...............wow so I just spent 2 and a half hours trying to get everything unsucessfully for a neck item that has a lvl req of 60!? Screw that, I'll sit this one out lol. Wait, before I even continue with this, are the lvl reqs for all the items 60 or was it just for that neck item?
AceAlpha
02-07-2008, 02:57 PM
Hahhahahahaha not hard to detect hahahhaha.
I mean, it's not that easy. :)
hmm ok :p, altough I was wondering I got a backpack full of quest items. But can't complete the quests because I can get the low chanse drop. Do all those items in my pack, together with every player in the game with a huge backpack don't cuase some lagg?
SkatrBill
02-07-2008, 02:59 PM
Why would you restrict this item to only lvl 60's if ur gonna make it fair for it to be out on rancid... People are busting their butts to get this and you guys add a rediculious lvl requirement....
whats the point of this? the items arn't gonna hold any value cause no ones ever gonna reach lvl 60 atleast for a while, people have alreayd droped tons of points on rage recharges trying to get this neck and you guys change hte level requirement? thats pretty lame... Its cool though cause 1 crew with around 7 lvl 60's will have them since their no use to no one else lol...
Egnar
02-07-2008, 03:00 PM
Really? That's pretty horrible considering the scarab has no requirement. . So now anyone under 60 who had a scarab and did it is screwed.
Mushi
02-07-2008, 03:01 PM
I guess the lvl req was a good idea, in all, but will the stats on stuff change? Yeah u prolly dont like me but answering me is the same as answering every1 else watching the forum atm, and most of em are wondering too.
captain
02-07-2008, 03:02 PM
Thats like the only item ive really noticed. So wtf is the point of me even doing WoZ is they are just going to keep giving high levels more benefits and lower lvls suffer. Stupidity at its finest.
setty
02-07-2008, 03:02 PM
Soo what is the real point in making the neck a level 60 and over item? especially now after everyone worked so hard for it.
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Really? That's pretty horrible considering the scarab has no requirement. . So now anyone under 60 who had a scarab and did it is screwed.
scarab is now level 40.
jd
ItachiUchiha
02-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Well at least I know this now before I even get the scarab (which will hopefully be soon). Now I know to abandon that one dude's quest lol. Since the scarab is lvl 40, only 2 of my accounts will be able to equip it -_-)
Egnar
02-07-2008, 03:04 PM
scarab is now level 40.
jd
Even so it doesn't matter - Anyone not reading the forums right now who turns there scarab into metal is kinda screwed.
cutthroat
02-07-2008, 03:05 PM
Even so it doesn't matter - Anyone not reading the forums right now who turns there scarab into metal is kinda screwed.
oh i agree bro.
jd
the lvl thing dont work u can still wear it so maybe outwar needs to do it as ive seen a lvl 58 with the 1k hp neck so it should be unequiped
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 03:07 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
dont un equip it, and you should be ok. I cant wait to see the flaming that goes on in here, because its gonna be justice, served ice cold
JGeatsU
02-07-2008, 03:07 PM
omg ow i cant belive theses req so weak
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 03:07 PM
Im trying but ur servers are sort of laggy and ur droprate not as they were. U can have ur numbers, us players have ours =)
And if u wanna do something good for the players, give cheaters a proper punishment, not a slap on the hand saying "u must never ever do this again".
The idea of the event itself is good, and it wouldve been so much better hadnt it been for, well, the lag, and how there was a much larger droprate in the beginning, making it unfair for every1 who didnt participate at that time, which is in the middle of the night in europe.
There were no changes in drop rate except for the fix with Halo. Period.
DarkPrice
02-07-2008, 03:10 PM
Take of the lvl req from the items... kind pointless for most ppl on rancid to do the quest now when they cant use the item in the next 6-12 months -.-' just a stupid idea
PaasHaaS
02-07-2008, 03:11 PM
I am happy to say that things are running smoothly with war, and I hope you are all having fun.
Funny, fix the lag, then say that again please..
DarkPimpGuy
02-07-2008, 03:11 PM
are the level requirements to get the items or to equip them?
terrytoh
02-07-2008, 03:12 PM
Here's the flame then. I spent hours getting my alliance neck, and points getting extra items for it. I then gemmed it. When this neck was created, by me, there were NO restrictions on it. NOW, it's either going to be unequipped or - if I take it off, I'm not going to be able to re-equip it before I'm lvl 60? I'm 53, by the way.
Something defo doesn't seem right here..
Rampid_Justin
02-07-2008, 03:12 PM
The explanation I got from Nick:
Basically, before the WoZ, where is a level 40 going to get a 1k hp neck? No where. It's a crazy sick item, and as so, it's too OP for a 40 to wear. HOWEVER, we didn't want to make it player bound, because that would make it pointless for a 25-59 to get. Since you can trade it, you have options.
1. Wait until you're 60. This is a sweet item, and it'll still be sweet in however long it takes you to get 60.
2. Sell it. This item is worth tons of points. You can use those points to buy items that don't have level requirements, or that you've wanted for a while.
Basically, if you can get the Angelic neck, you're making out REALLY well on the WoZ.
Egnar
02-07-2008, 03:13 PM
I spent 4 furies trying to get that neck. . And now I'm soo close and can't even wear it. . .On top of which the new quest isn't working.
chnseboi35
02-07-2008, 03:13 PM
So...anyone find any info about the new quest starter Athrad?
Take of the lvl req from the items... kind pointless for most ppl on rancid to do the quest now when they cant use the item in the next 6-12 months -.-' just a stupid idea
by the time i get lvl 60 in rancid there are tons of more better necks!!! just isnt worth the rage -.- i could use the rage to get exp not to chase something impossible
blizzard
02-07-2008, 03:14 PM
i love woz it was me who made the massive poll about bringing it back,
but this level requirements have screwed people a bit,
but anyways to keep people sweet get the old coal back in treasury an the old recipes droping to so people can get the old zhul stuff as well an then every body be happy an therell keep buying points for furys :)
also there is no link on that new mob so there fore no quest
fix this stuff
Happy zhuling every 1
fevershark
02-07-2008, 03:14 PM
Is there anyway to get the items from the first round of WOZ? i missed the first rounds and would like to get the weapon and body.
captain
02-07-2008, 03:16 PM
I just finished my test early in my computer class and im hte only one on the internet. And the wya our internet is is that if 1 computer is on, 1 gets the internet, 2 internet gets divided in half, ect ect... Yea im the only one on and this is some dial up speed shit. What the ****.
Sataniik
02-07-2008, 03:16 PM
poor people who traded in there scarab for the 60 neck, and then gemmed it. You people just got royally ****ed in the arse
doublejinx
02-07-2008, 03:16 PM
I would like the rounds not to be back to back to back like last time...maybe one round a week then a week off or something..having them back to back promotes people using a dcaa because you can stay around the clock trying to get items for five rounds...
it would be an even every couple weeks and people wont be burnt out....
put this in a poll..i think most players would like it.
Jinx
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