Gemming costs?

[AJB540]

Am I the only one that thinks gemming costs too much? $175 worth of points to gem every item. I'm not saying it should be way cheaper, because then everyone has fully gemmed items, but that fourth gem is just way too much, in my opinion.

[Domination]

That what i mentioned back on the old forums, everyone thought these prices where more reasonable.


1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125

[snyper816]

That what i mentioned back on the old forums, everyone thought these prices where more reasonable.


1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125

yea those prices sound reasonable

[Wizzy]

Definitely more reasonable. Now I can finally 4gem my Wrath of the Gods ^_^

[Deathbringerxxx]

Yea...I almost bought points, but i realized that 50$ buys 1000 points... That gets you one decent, ungemmed, unaugged item... maybe. First of all, 50$ is a lot of money for a bit of electronic code that means nothing in the real world. Then you spend like 20$ to gem that one item. Then you can spend another 50$ on augmenting that item. thats 120$ on ONE item which will last until a better item comes out. I think lowering gem prices is a small start to making things reasonable. but I wouldn't change it if I worked at Rampid. People are silly enough to pay it ^^

[Domination]

Definitely more reasonable. Now I can finally 4gem my Wrath of the Gods ^_^

when you do you'll finally be 1337 :P

[Wizzy]

Oh yeah baby, definitely! ;)

[deadlyrebel3629]

Definitely should lower the cost of the forth gem.

[makavelitehdon]

Ye got to agree with that, the prices to gemm are a bit high. Would like to see a change, as we had couple of changes in treasury prices, why not change the gemming prices a bit as they havent been changed for a while

[Kourtney]

Im fine with gem prices except the white one. Too many points, for too little of a boost. It barely upps stats as much as the first green one last time I checked

[Shady]

i like those prices Domination posted, they seem really reasonable.

[Domination]

4th gem:125 - thats perfect for what the gem actually offeres, which isn't much on increase, as it is now it is to over priced.

[J.Christ]

i agree, lower the prices just a lil bit. more ppl will gem their high level multies, hence u will be buyin more pts.

[Domination]

I don't even bother gemmed to the 4th, i stop at 3rd gem

[PlayaFoSho]

That what i mentioned back on the old forums, everyone thought these prices where more reasonable.


1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125

Agreed!!!!!!

[Domination]

270 points fair to fully gem something instead of the 390 we've been paying since it's come out, i thinks its fair to finally give us a break.

[Cruiz]

Now what I would like to see is what you get BACK for items increased even if by a small amount.

390 Points for Full Gem
50 Points for Ungem.

I'm sorry but I'm just not alright with that exchange. If anything I would like to see you get at least 195 back but the likelyhood of that is slim to none.

As for the gem changes, I would gladly take those prices but again, it is very unlikely.

[nhake]

fyi
gem 1 = item stats * 1.1
gem 2 = gem 1 item stats * 1.15
gem 3 = gem 2 item stats * 1.25
gem 4 = gem 3 item stats * 1.1

I agree with the new prices domination put up:
1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125

[AJB540]

Now what I would like to see is what you get BACK for items increased even if by a small amount.

390 Points for Full Gem
50 Points for Ungem.

I'm sorry but I'm just not alright with that exchange. If anything I would like to see you get at least 195 back but the likelyhood of that is slim to none.

As for the gem changes, I would gladly take those prices but again, it is very unlikely.

I agree with that too. Seems like we're getting shafted when it comes to points.

[jeffers1986]

Yeah, the red and white gem prices are way too much...green and blue i can deal with.

[Bloodkitty1st]

In my honest opinion, I think the current prices are fine.
well all except the 4th gem, why the hell we pay 10 times the price of the first gem, for exactly the same increase.

we either need; a better boost with the 4th gem, or a cheaper cost.

[Kourtney]

Cruiz good point. The return exchange is ridiculously unfair. 20pts back from a gem that originally costed 200 is stupid lol.... but that rate has been there so long I doubt itl ever change :(

[skydragon666]

gemming prices are fine ow have bills 2 pay remember

[titchnolan]

a agree !!!!!!!! costs to much

[Egnar]

I'm fine with gem prices, except, I think the Magic Gem should be cheaper. Just like with rage potions (higher potions are less points per point of rage). If you choose to buy a magic gem and fully gem your item at one time you should get a mild discount, like say 320-350 for the gem.

[AJB540]

gemming prices are fine ow have bills 2 pay remember

They do have bills to pay, but the prices are still ridiculous. How anyone pays them, I have no idea. I'm not sure if they own their own servers or not, but if they do, the bills aren't going to be that much. Two people fully gemming a month would more than pay for their bills. I could be way off here, and if I am, my bad.

[jZampage]

Outwar makes plenty of money trust me, there are plenty of people who spend points on this game. There are people on rancid who have full zhul gear almost, and those are 15k points a piece... and you couldn't transfer points remember. Let alone think of how many ppl a day don't have points but need a SR crate or a fury to get that next level or what not, whatever the cost may be its 20$ a pop here and 20$ a pop there, they aren't hurting in the bills department thats for sure.

[Rampid_Justin]

Outwar makes plenty of money trust me, there are plenty of people who spend points on this game. There are people on rancid who have full zhul gear almost, and those are 15k points a piece... and you couldn't transfer points remember. Let alone think of how many ppl a day don't have points but need a SR crate or a fury to get that next level or what not, whatever the cost may be its 20$ a pop here and 20$ a pop there, they aren't hurting in the bills department thats for sure.

Mark is that you?

If it isn't, I'm curious how you got a copy of our income statement and balance sheet?

Wait.. you don't have it? Therefore you have no evidence besides a bunch of ideas about what you think we make?

Weird that you'd make a statement like "they aren't hurting in the bills department thats for sure." then..

/confused.

[AJB540]

Justin, any thoughts on anything in the topic? I'd really like some feedback for it. Could just be me being poor and not being able to afford any points that makes me think that though :(

[Rampid_Justin]

To be honest I haven't looked at gemming costs nor would I be the one who decides the prices. ;)

[Domination]

Justin just secretly go into work and change them for us :)

[AJB540]

In regards to the price of degemming items, I think it would be better to be able to transfer gems. For a maybe 10-15 points, you can transfer the gems from your old shield to a shield you just got. There's still money being made, but we're not losing as much.

[jZampage]

Mark is that you?

If it isn't, I'm curious how you got a copy of our income statement and balance sheet?

Wait.. you don't have it? Therefore you have no evidence besides a bunch of ideas about what you think we make?

Weird that you'd make a statement like "they aren't hurting in the bills department thats for sure." then..

/confused.

Lol I think it's quite obvious to infer my statement. There are plenty of people who bite on that buy points button every day, let alone there are about 14 other different links on the page to buy points. I've noticed that also everything is point oriented now, and everything is about buying more points. I.E. the daily grind buff, or the constant new updates that include buying more things from the treasury with nothing other then what? Points?!?

Alas we come to the point promotions and now the 14 different banners outwar now has. Chicks dig PP. People only look hawt in gemmed items, or w/e the hell it says.

I don't have to be mark to recognize whats right in front of me or anyone else.

[AJB540]

Lol I think it's quite obvious to infer my statement. There are plenty of people who bite on that buy points button every day, let alone there are about 14 other different links on the page to buy points. I've noticed that also everything is point oriented now, and everything is about buying more points. I.E. the daily grind buff, or the constant new updates that include buying more things from the treasury with nothing other then what? Points?!?

Alas we come to the point promotions and now the 14 different banners outwar now has. Chicks dig PP. People only look hawt in gemmed items, or w/e the hell it says.

I don't have to be mark to recognize whats right in front of me or anyone else.

I agree with him on this. The points banners seem like bad cigarette ads.

[Wizzy]

Outwar makes plenty of money trust me, there are plenty of people who spend points on this game. There are people on rancid who have full zhul gear almost, and those are 15k points a piece... and you couldn't transfer points remember. Let alone think of how many ppl a day don't have points but need a SR crate or a fury to get that next level or what not, whatever the cost may be its 20$ a pop here and 20$ a pop there, they aren't hurting in the bills department thats for sure.

Mark is that you?

If it isn't, I'm curious how you got a copy of our income statement and balance sheet?

Wait.. you don't have it? Therefore you have no evidence besides a bunch of ideas about what you think we make?

Weird that you'd make a statement like "they aren't hurting in the bills department thats for sure." then..

/confused.

He's psychic! ;o

Anyways. So who does decide upon such things as gemming and treasury prices?

[Domination]

Probably Chris the owner

[Rampid_Justin]

Lol I think it's quite obvious to infer my statement. There are plenty of people who bite on that buy points button every day, let alone there are about 14 other different links on the page to buy points. I've noticed that also everything is point oriented now, and everything is about buying more points. I.E. the daily grind buff, or the constant new updates that include buying more things from the treasury with nothing other then what? Points?!?

Alas we come to the point promotions and now the 14 different banners outwar now has. Chicks dig PP. People only look hawt in gemmed items, or w/e the hell it says.

I don't have to be mark to recognize whats right in front of me or anyone else.

You're obviously not understanding.. still. Banners and promotions have nothing to do with how much we're making. Forget it though, it's obviously impossible to have you believe anything more than the fact that we all own private islands and jets.

[Swudeson]

It would also be nice to get MORE points back from UNGemming your gods, and moving the UNGem button away from directly under the GEM button in the Blacksmith ;)

[Gvcc]

Yea, I agree..The gems cost way too much..Wizzy's prices are reasonable i'd say..

[Wizzy]

I don't recall suggesting any prices o.O

[AJB540]

I'm pretty sure he meant Domination.

[TeHCuRvE]

maybe outwar should lower prices of points ... and we shouldnt have a shitty economy on all servers.. then maybe we wouldnt have to put thousend of dollers into the game just to look decent :|

[Domination]

Thats not likely about to happen, it would be alot easier for them to jsut decrease the price for gems

[Hairyrasal]

That what i mentioned back on the old forums, everyone thought these prices where more reasonable.


1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125


those prices would own, but OW is already making a hell of a profit off the current prices because we can even gain points in raids now.
although i would love to see this happen, i highly doubt rampid will give into this one.

[AJB540]

The points for raids aren't much though, and are mainly for crew upgrades. At least on Rancid, I don't know about other servers.

[Domination]

those prices would own, but OW is already making a hell of a profit off the current prices because we can even gain points in raids now.
although i would love to see this happen, i highly doubt rampid will give into this one.

I dunno if they are making money off gems i'm pretty sure once there used on the blacksmith they just vanish, i could be wrong though

[papercut36]

Would definitly help servers with a shitty point economy (Sigil) where its impossible to sell anything to get 390pts to gem something when you can't even sell a gemmed item for the cost of the gems..

[LadyDutch]

You're obviously not understanding.. still. Banners and promotions have nothing to do with how much we're making. Forget it though, it's obviously impossible to have you believe anything more than the fact that we all own private islands and jets.

Now dont tell me you dont have islands and yets :o


I agree some prizes are a bit high, but noone is telling you, you have to put in the white (expencive gemm) but indeed there should be made a little discount on the magic gemm, because you gemm the item full at once.

[andylord]

Now dont tell me you dont have islands and yets :o


I agree some prizes are a bit high, but noone is telling you, you have to put in the white (expencive gemm) but indeed there should be made a little discount on the magic gemm, because you gemm the item full at once.

i agree to that ^.^ maybe take 20-100 pnts 100 is asking bit much for outwar :P but would increase points im sure

outwar take a trail on this maybe you'll like what you're seeing and wont do any harm

[trojanhorse]

I'm fine with gem prices, except, I think the Magic Gem should be cheaper. Just like with rage potions (higher potions are less points per point of rage). If you choose to buy a magic gem and fully gem your item at one time you should get a mild discount, like say 320-350 for the gem.

on the contrary higher rage pots are more points/rage looooool
rage and super rage pots
1k rage and 5k rage
5pts and 30 pts

loool :P

[Ylts]

1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125

is good but PP only could use it? right now the PP kinda crap! no special things for PP (new areas with gods perhaps whats available only for PP etc. )

PS! since ow is copy of wow,very soon (patch 2.4) wow raises daily cap from 10 to 25 so when ow raises god cap from 10 to 25??? :D

[Egnar]

on the contrary higher rage pots are more points/rage looooool
rage and super rage pots
1k rage and 5k rage
5pts and 30 pts

loool :P

At one point in time, when I actually looked they were cheaper :-/.

[dillonsurdaddy]

its alot to pay for em all especially when most of us are teens... that kinda money is hard to come buy even with a decent job

[SkatrBill]

That what i mentioned back on the old forums, everyone thought these prices where more reasonable.


1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125

yes these prices are great for how much the prices droped, but if yu do this prices may drop more? who knows

[Domination]

Okay this is why the white gem isn't worth 200 points and like i said in a previous post, the cost should be.
1st gem: 20
2nd gem:50
3rd gem:75
4th gem:125


I have equiped:

Head:visage of destruction
Body: plate of the wild
Weap:warshattered
Shield:bracer of life
Ring:essences of the reckoning
Pants:bloodsoaked legplates
Belt:cord of the corruptor
Neck:eye of the corruptor
Boots: malevolent treaders

the stats for all that 3 gemmed are:(within adding aug stats)

+648 ATK
+2,874 HP
+5% block
+1,483 rage per hr
+912 exp per hr
+130% rampage
+17,711 max rage
+66% critical hit

and now here what they would be 4 gemmed:

+713 ATK
+3,162 HP
+5% block
+1,631 rage per hr
+1,002 exp per hr
+144% rampage
+19,484 max rage
+66% critical hit

i'm sorry but that small increase is not worth 1800 points. To make it worth that, the forth gem should increase crit/block/resist and damage. but the forth gem should only increase those and not the other stats, make it kind of a bonus gem.

[pimpa]

you guys add up all these prices of gems in terms of money.... why spend money on a free game huh? Work your way from item to item try sell them on make a little profit, save points to gem your items lol dont gotta spend money to be leet :)

Also the 4th gem on items is practically useless. For 200 points the stat boost is ridiculous. increase the 4th gem and it will make all items leeter and people will be lovin it ;)

gudluck

[medman]

I guess I get to be the first person coming here saying I have absolutely no problem buying plenty of points. Over $1000 in the past week or so, and the prices on gems hasn't changed in the years since it was implemented.

Why is it only now that the price isn't worth it? because the prices of everything has dropped. I remember the day when Noc was not sold, it was only given to good raiders in a crew, not i can get a set for under 100 points. kind of hard to spend 1800 points to gem items that cost 100. Granted I know people are not 4 gemming noc these days, but same principle applies to other items. basically, look at the economy of the servers, now tell me that the gem prices are not a bit high?

I bought a pair of Eagles the other day, 4 gemmed and 100 RPT in augs, and paid less than the price of the 4 gems. something just doesn't seem right about that.

[oddjob]

Agreed Pimpa, you don't have to be spending money on this game to get your gems.

Although i think it's not very clever to make a 4th gem more expensive then the first 3 gems together... -.-'

[Domination]

That forth gem is worth more then most gods now, either they should have an equal ungemming rate or the prices should be dropped.

[simonrobinson]

Am I the only one that thinks gemming costs too much? $175 worth of points to gem every item. I'm not saying it should be way cheaper, because then everyone has fully gemmed items, but that fourth gem is just way too much, in my opinion.

not being nasty here but i think price is fine how it is also if u dont like price dont gem ya items..


they cant lower the price or they would have to refund everyone back all the pts players have spent over yrs gemming stuff

[Wizzy]

Sure they can.

They did it with Fury Augments and noone got refunds.

[Domination]

Why would anyone eve get a refund? the price drop would happen after you've already paid to gem so there's no sense in a refund. It's just bad timing on that persons behalf.

[simonrobinson]

Sure they can.

They did it with Fury Augments and noone got refunds.


tell me about it i brought 10 at 1200pts 12000pts and i lost out big time but they hadnt sold that many fury augs by then.

gemming is 1000s of accounts and if they reduce prices i for one will go thru and ask for a refund of all my gemmed items so around 100k in pts will be good

[ov3rdose]

I vote ow raises gemming points :/

[simonrobinson]

I vote ow raises gemming points :/

agreed............................................ ...

[Firestarter]

gemming price wouldn't be such a problem if we could have found a use for the no-trade items. at some point i had 4 shields all 4 gemmed and 3 of them being no-trade: aces, woz shield and grace. lots of points wasted considering i can't wear more than one shield at once, lol

[simonrobinson]

gemming price wouldn't be such a problem if we could have found a use for the no-trade items. at some point i had 4 shields all 4 gemmed and 3 of them being no-trade: aces, woz shield and grace. lots of points wasted considering i can't wear more than one shield at once, lol

no trade was worst thing ow added all should be tradeable

[Sparda1234]

no trade was worst thing ow added all should be tradeable

Agreed with the exeption of items from quests, aces shield, sacred blade ect.

But all items droped from raids you should be able to trade.

[Domination]

I vote for full refund.

[Wizzy]

I'll give yall refunds in cookie currency!

[Domination]

See cookie currency would still be better then the small 70 points we get back from ungemming