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MothaFocker
01-14-2008, 07:51 PM
Daily Grind Level 1
Double your experience from DC mobs for 15 minutes.

Rage Cost: 15
Cooldown: 2880 mins
Duration: 15 mins

1st off its called DAILY grind but you can only use it once every 2 days.

2nd This is a skill we had to purchase with money why is it not better?
- 15 mins every 2 day?

If the stats of this skill were released before the offer I would of never purchased points.

My suggestion:
- 30mins every day

Rage Cost: 30
Cooldown: 1440 mins
Duration: 30 Mins

this is far more reasonable considering; we had to purchase this skill, and the skills name.

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If this wont be done how about a leveling system for it?

Level 1
15 rage
1440 mins
15mins

level 2
30 rage
1440 mins
30mins

Level 3
45 rage
1440 mins
45mins

Level 4
60 rage
1440 mins
60mins

I think level 4 for 60 mins should be the max.


I have asked around and many others agree with this, everyone who has purchased this skill please reply.

If you have not purchased it because you heard how bad it was please reply if you would want it after it is upgraded.

Domination
01-14-2008, 07:54 PM
its already easy enough to get exp in dc, why would we need more ways to gain easy exp

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 07:54 PM
Daily Grind Level 1
Double your experience from DC mobs for 15 minutes.

Rage Cost: 15
Cooldown: 2880 mins
Duration: 15 mins

1st off its called DAILY grind but you can only use it once every 2 days.

2nd This is a skill we had to purchase with money why is it not better?
- 15 mins every 2 day?

If the stats of this skill were released before the offer I would of never purchased points.

My suggestion:
- 30mins every day

Rage Cost: 30
Cooldown: 1440 mins
Duration: 30 Mins

this is far more reasonable considering; we had to purchase this skill, and the skills name.

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I agree with you up to that point. :)

XJunkyX
01-14-2008, 07:56 PM
LOL, I second W1zzy.

snyper816
01-14-2008, 07:58 PM
I agree with you up to that point. :)

me too even 15 minutes everyday instead of 30, but it doesnt bother me so much since its extra free exp even as is =P

DANKFIRE
01-14-2008, 08:01 PM
ya either just make the skill castable every 24hrs. or rename it to biweekly grind -_-

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:02 PM
Hahaha. You said "bi"!
/me giggles

MothaFocker
01-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Yeah I just added that last part just for kicks lol

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:08 PM
Pretty good mate ^_^

PureCane
01-14-2008, 08:26 PM
They made the skill so ***** because OW is greedy and still wants you bastards to buy exp boosts. Big suprise, eh?

Domination
01-14-2008, 08:28 PM
They made the skill so shitty because OW is greedy and still wants you bastards to buy exp boosts. Big suprise, eh?

actually smart on there behalf, they got 1000's of people to buy those exp boosts

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:29 PM
Mhmmmmm. I'm too poor to buy any of those :(

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 08:57 PM
They've been doing a lot lately to increase points bought, and convince those who dont buy to start... they;ve got to be making loads, but it is getting a little obvious and lame on our part :(

And yeah Daily Grind is way too spaced out in usage considering we had to pay for it. MothaFockers idea of a lvl system would rock, now just how to level it up?

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:59 PM
Two skill points per level?

nhake
01-14-2008, 09:07 PM
1st off its called DAILY grind but you can only use it once every 2 days.

The name pertains to helping WITH the daily grind. It's not doing so well at that I must say -_-. I agree with you, it needs to be "boosted" so to speak. (no pun intended)

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 09:10 PM
Thanks for that explanation. :) It never made sense until one second ago lol.

nhake
01-14-2008, 09:23 PM
Thanks for that explanation. :) It never made sense until one second ago lol.

Quite welcome, It took me long enough to figure that out myself. -_-

PS
$20 of points = 500 points
daily grind = minor exp boost = 30 points

sooooo 500 / 30 = 16 minor exp boost to straight buy with the points. So you have to cast this 17 times before you "get" your points back.

Takes 35 days of casting it the second it's available to get to 17 castings. Now assuming you just spend 500 points on minor exp boosts, you gain a free exp boost every 2 days after that.

Is that worth it? You decide. :\

Deathbringerxxx
01-14-2008, 09:26 PM
I think they should remove the skill altogether =D. Then they can hear people whine about them removing it instead of hearing people whining about how the skill sucks.

Domination
01-14-2008, 09:28 PM
With adrenaline being gone they should replace it with time warp :)

Rampid_Justin
01-14-2008, 10:02 PM
Umm.. no one "paid" for the skill. You got it for free, as a bonus along with the points.

This is a permanent skill. You'll have it for your OW career. So every other day you get 30 points worth of a skill, for as many days as you keep playing. Use it every day for a year, and you've got over 5400 points worth of exp boosts. I don't see an issue.. seems like you guys got a GREAT deal! :)

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 10:14 PM
that's alot of exp boosts granted that you remember to use the skill. o.O

Idk why I got mine. I attack mostly rather than DC.

skunkbudz
01-14-2008, 10:17 PM
i dont care i got this skill and its nice jsut buy totem for 99 points and cast it 10 times thats 150 mins cheaper than buying major exp potions with 25k max rage and 2200rpt and 1 fury a day and one full totem u can do some damage :)

nhake
01-14-2008, 10:26 PM
i dont care i got this skill and its nice jsut buy totem for 99 points and cast it 10 times thats 150 mins cheaper than buying major exp potions with 25k max rage and 2200rpt and 1 fury a day and one full totem u can do some damage :)

this is true, true is this.

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 10:28 PM
You should buy me some totems ^_^ :D

J.Christ
01-14-2008, 11:22 PM
why they call it daily grind when u cant cast daily?

PlayaFoSho
01-14-2008, 11:26 PM
I agree with you up to that point. :)

Agree with your agree

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 11:52 PM
Awe look at all the agreement. If only it was like this more often :p

The coffee symbol for the skill is amusing at least, other than that... wee bit useless without totem

DruiD
01-15-2008, 01:00 AM
You gotta think of it like this, every 2 days you get a free 50 point item, so say you use it for a month, that's 750 points saved for free - I mean yeah you had to buy atleast $20 worth of points to get it, but in 2 months looking back you'll see how much extra growth you got for free instead of paying 50 points every 2 days for the same thing.

Now put this twist on it. Say you buy a totem at 100 points, you get 10 recharges out of that, that means for 5 hours straight you could use your boost skill and that's going to add up as well, so for 100 points you could buy 2 major boosts for you now have 100 points to buy a totem and use a major boost 10 different times which would of costed 500 points with buying the boost potion. I'm just trying to show advantages of having it, might not be good but I tried :p

MothaFocker
01-15-2008, 02:02 AM
I'm saying it like this;
I dont have points I dont have a totem i dont have exp pots.
and im not about to buy points to get these things.

so thoes people who buy points just when OW has a nice offer like this one..well its not worth it thoes people who wait for nice offers kinda got shafted on this one.

all in all it needs a boost up.

DruiD
01-15-2008, 02:15 AM
as Justin said, it was a bonus as part of buying points, they didn't have to buy the points - chill

Bloodkitty1st
01-15-2008, 05:09 AM
Why are people complaining about something that was given to them for free.
If your grandparents gave you a jumper at christmas, unless you are a spoilt little brat you are supposed to put on a happy face, and pretend you are grateful.

just stop whining, and do that here :!

ginabean
01-15-2008, 06:12 AM
Preachin to the Choir there Kitty my heart.

You know.. they did NOT have to give all ya'lls anything. You all (me included) got a nice lil perk with our bonus points,s o why not just be happy nad look at the bigger picture when you think of what you really are getting.

I mean Justin and BloodKitty *snugs her kitty* said it all really.

Bloodkitty1st
01-15-2008, 06:51 AM
Well it was a 1 time offer, you can't get it now.
It may not be an awesome skill but it was FREE!

Why do people not understand this.

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 08:40 AM
I believe it was because people bought points with the intentions of getting that skill so in a way it's thought that they were forced to buy points because there was no other way to get it. I can understand both sides of the argument. The whole "that was the only way to get the skill so I HAD to buy points" and then "i bought points for THAT?" is pretty much how some people view it.

Hey now I know some people might flame me but I'm just a messenger expressing how I think it went down. :P

Kourtney
01-15-2008, 10:11 AM
Makes sense W1zzy, both sides have a point. It was free yeah, but people didn't realize how umm.. "non-useful" it was when they forked money out to grab it. Outwar made it sound like some big rare skill, one-time-only opportunity. Naturally someone would think the skill would be pretty sweet. Anyways, I guess the big answer is "oh well". lol. Nothin we can do about it, yeah it was a free bonus.

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 10:51 AM
daily grind is fine the way it is leave it alone

champ
01-15-2008, 10:52 AM
i dont have it

*sad face*

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 12:47 PM
me gives champ 200k points there you go now buy a mini exp booster every 2 days for the rest of your life

darkmanx88387
01-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Hahaha. You said "bi"!
/me giggles


w1zzy giggles all the time for me =) :p lololol its not a bad idea

Draven
01-15-2008, 01:15 PM
i dont got that skill :| poor :(

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 02:39 PM
/me gives draven 200k points 2 buy mini exp boosters enjoy

Swudeson
01-15-2008, 03:02 PM
I agree: we need atleast 30 minutes a day, EVERY DAY! DAILY Grind? I know it's a play on words, but it should still be DAILY!

~Swude

Rampid_Justin
01-15-2008, 03:09 PM
I agree: we need atleast 30 minutes a day, EVERY DAY! DAILY Grind? I know it's a play on words, but it should still be DAILY!

~Swude

I disagree. It's free, it's one of the best promotions held so far, and it doesn't mean using it is a daily grind, it just helps with your daily grind when you're able to use it.

Swudeson
01-15-2008, 03:11 PM
It's free? We had to PAY to get it lol. That's like saying World of Warcraft is free: you just have to pay $15/month to play it lol. Sure a candy bar is free after I pay the $0.52 to own it :) Not to mention the 15 minutes are cut short often by lag- which can last as few as 3 minutes, and as much as a few hours. Then you have to wait 2 days to use it again, as you lost a minimum of 20% of your 'free' gift.

~Swude

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 03:13 PM
/me Agrees 2 Justin You can Dc about 30k in that 15 mins = 60k more than enough

Swudeson
01-15-2008, 03:15 PM
Then make it daily in case there's lag lol

Bloodkitty1st
01-15-2008, 03:17 PM
It's free? We had to PAY to get it lol. That's like saying World of Warcraft is free: you just have to pay $15/month to play it lol. Sure a candy bar is free after I pay the $0.52 to own it :) Not to mention the 15 minutes are cut short often by lag- which can last as few as 3 minutes, and as much as a few hours. Then you have to wait 2 days to use it again, as you lost a minimum of 20% of your 'free' gift.

~Swude

You bought is along side points. you were paying for the points. and even so, even if it is a 2 wait, you are basically getting a free minor exp boost every 2 days for the rest of your time on OW.

how can anybody be complaining about this?!

jZampage
01-15-2008, 03:19 PM
I disagree. It's free, it's one of the best promotions held so far, and it doesn't mean using it is a daily grind, it just helps with your daily grind when you're able to use it.

It was one of the best promotions held so far because people thought it was going to be an actual meaningful skill. It isn't a horrible idea, but the name is kind of absurd considering it isn't daily, and the 15 minutes I'm not going to argue about. Like Sky said, you can do a lot in 15 minutes, especially in SR. But it was exactly that, a promotion, something to get OW to make more money. Of course it was successful. People thought they were getting something.

champ
01-15-2008, 03:20 PM
me gives champ 200k points there you go now buy a mini exp booster every 2 days for the rest of your life

Thank you sugar

RAWR

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 03:43 PM
/me Agrees 2 Justin You can Dc about 30k in that 15 mins = 60k more than enough
Teach me because I sure as hell can't do that. At least not on my connection. The most I've managed to do in that 15 minutes is about 28k

Rampid_Justin
01-15-2008, 03:46 PM
It's free? We had to PAY to get it lol. That's like saying World of Warcraft is free: you just have to pay $15/month to play it lol. Sure a candy bar is free after I pay the $0.52 to own it :) Not to mention the 15 minutes are cut short often by lag- which can last as few as 3 minutes, and as much as a few hours. Then you have to wait 2 days to use it again, as you lost a minimum of 20% of your 'free' gift.

~Swude

No, but if you paid $15 for your month of wow and in December they threw in a free 10 gold, the 10 gold would be free.

I still think the skill is great. I would've bought points for it, and I'm not saying this because I'm an employee, it's a free 5400 points a year!!

jZampage
01-15-2008, 03:49 PM
Teach me because I sure as hell can't do that. At least not on my connection. The most I've managed to do in that 15 minutes is about 28k

I'll be the first to say it. Not saying Sky does but most people who use their daily grind cast it then press start.

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 03:50 PM
No, but if you paid $15 for your month of wow and in December they threw in a free 10 gold, the 10 gold would be free.

I still think the skill is great. I would've bought points for it, and I'm not saying this because I'm an employee, it's a free 5400 points a year!!


Given that you use it on a regular basis of course :)

Rampid_Justin
01-15-2008, 03:59 PM
I'll be the first to say it. Not saying Sky does but most people who use their daily grind cast it then press start.

How do you know it's "start" and not "launch" or "Go"? :p

Egnar
01-15-2008, 04:01 PM
No, but if you paid $15 for your month of wow and in December they threw in a free 10 gold, the 10 gold would be free.

I still think the skill is great. I would've bought points for it, and I'm not saying this because I'm an employee, it's a free 5400 points a year!!

Logic is flawed because Wow isn't a free game. You pay for it regardless.

In this case you offered us a promotional item. Why? Because obviously it drives sales higher. There is no other logical explanation.

In wow if they said "everyone who pays next month gets 10gold" they won't see sales drive up from current customers because all the current customers are already paying.

This skill is almost as disappointing as the time you guys offered us a +1 empower orb which could not be found in DC and then 2 months later change skills and make it just another item instead of this rare cool item no one else has.

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 04:04 PM
Ya'll are just going to go in circles because I doubt either of you will concede so you might as well close the thread.

jZampage
01-15-2008, 04:05 PM
How do you know it's "start" and not "launch" or "Go"? :p

Because 'Launch' and 'Disarm' don't sound feasible. :)

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 08:03 PM
Because 'Launch' and 'Disarm' don't sound feasible. :)

hehe good cover up next time just say you saw a screen shot that "A FRIEND" Sent you

skunkbudz
01-15-2008, 09:36 PM
im just gona say i love the skill yea i bought point wooptedoo 20$ that i didnt waste on a bottle of johnny walker or scratch tickets and also i wanted to get the 50% points offer more than the skill.the skill was extra.now all is need is to sell a couple items get 99 points buy 1 totem a day.or spending a few bucks to support rampid is good. cause its a game u like to play almost like buying ps3 or xbox games its money and u dont spend it when ur dead and if u work 60hrs a week and have a good job then spend ur money the way u want the skill is great and helps alot

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 09:39 PM
Daily Grind should be dropped from gods from Ebliss - Nar Zhul like tomes r dropped from Varan - Ganeshan :-"

lalalalala...gonna get my ass bashed for that comment by point buyers :-ss

jZampage
01-15-2008, 10:24 PM
hehe good cover up next time just say you saw a screen shot that "A FRIEND" Sent you

Lol I was trying to be more of a smartass then anything. A lot have ppl have opened DCAA, doesn't mean they have used it - there is no proof of them doing so, the chats are rather humerous from what I hear ;)

Superduck
01-15-2008, 10:39 PM
daily grind should be 30 mins instead of 15.

jZampage
01-15-2008, 10:40 PM
daily grind should be 30 mins instead of 15.

Daily grind should be daily or change the damn name... enuff said about the stupid topic. Time to be closed.

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 10:42 PM
Didn't someone already explain the reasoning for it to be called "Daily Grind". You need go back and check the rest of the thread :-P

chnseboi35
01-15-2008, 11:42 PM
The name pertains to helping WITH the daily grind. It's not doing so well at that I must say -_-. I agree with you, it needs to be "boosted" so to speak. (no pun intended)

That's what they mean by "Daily Grind"

kidd13
01-16-2008, 12:11 AM
yah i agree and for some dumb reason i got 2 tome of experiences cant send to a multi and cant use on my self...

jZampage
01-16-2008, 12:55 AM
Didn't someone already explain the reasoning for it to be called "Daily Grind". You need go back and check the rest of the thread :-P

I'm quite aware of what people have already said. I'm sick of hearing about this thread. I summed it up the way it needed to be said.

Sataniik
01-16-2008, 06:14 AM
Daily Grind should be dropped from gods from Ebliss - Nar Zhul like tomes r dropped from Varan - Ganeshan :-"

lalalalala...gonna get my ass bashed for that comment by point buyers :-ss

Dude as if you made that comment!!

/me bashed thunders ass

Bloodkitty1st
01-16-2008, 06:21 AM
Holy christ, you were paying for the points not the skill. The skill was free
every 2 days you get a free Minor EXP Boost, which if used regularly gets you 5,400 free points a year.

and you can sit here and complain, never will I understand the logic behind the spoilt brat. It was free, take your cake and eat it.

and for the admin's at rampid, make everyone happy. call it Power Grind or something, that doesn't involve a time limit in the name, and keep it at the 2,880 cool down. I have no problem with it, I don't know why everyone else does.

Sataniik
01-16-2008, 06:22 AM
who are you going off at lol?

Bloodkitty1st
01-16-2008, 06:28 AM
Every single person in this thread that has complained about the skill :P

Sataniik
01-16-2008, 06:29 AM
Oh, right. And there was me thinking you missed my sarcasm -_-

Wizzy
01-16-2008, 02:01 PM
Hahaha. Ok so, we've gone over the complaints about Daily Grind, and it's been addressed that it most likely won't be changed so I think this thread should be closed. ^_^

Rampid_Justin
01-16-2008, 02:20 PM
Yes master Wizzzy.. lol