ideas for better RSBOTO

[Aretard]

i was thinking a few diffrent items such as
sacred aug quests available only with the blade
and like sacred order gems more acheivments you can get as you advance through the sacred order any more ideas?

[medman]

how about an actual start of a quest, how difficult it will be to upgrade, etc? just saying we need a new upgrade for the blade won't make admins jump at the idea.....

come up with a nice quest/items/good reason for it being implemented and a Dev may decide it is a good idea and add it to the game.

[Aretard]

lol well i was just using it as a brainstorming idea cause i thinks its lame if i made the quest if i dont have a blade and i was looking for some ideas like what way to go instead of actually just uping the stats on every blade what ideas to people like better

[medman]

lol well i was just using it as a brainstorming idea cause i thinks its lame if i made the quest if i dont have a blade and i was looking for some ideas like what way to go instead of actually just uping the stats on every blade what ideas to people like better

I agree that a new quest should be installed over another buff for the hell of it. Even if you don't have a blade, you can read the entire quest line, and think of something that could be related and easily added.

my ideas:
Should be somehow related to other Epic quests

Should require a lot of work, taking at least 3 days to complete if you have all raid drops necessary (meaning the quest should take a while based on quest drops/number of mobs required to kill).

Drop rate on raid items low (obviously)

maybe some more OW backstory explaining some more stuff

[oXoSIZZLAoXo]

it would need some elemental power as well

[shisch]

How about this,

right now you can upgrade the sboto to reforged. How about instead of being a linear, you can choose whether to upgrade it to the current reforged with kinetic damage (should be renamed to Kinetic, or such), or choose if you'd rather get the already-existing holy blade?

Those who have a reforged already should get to choose if they want to keep it, or change.

The reforged quest (Epic v2.0) would not be affected, as at the end of it, you choose which of the blades you want (in the quest dialogue, show two images so you can compare them easily).

The blades would not necessarily be identical, neither would they have to have much different stats.



That's just my idea of how you would be able to, perhaps not upgrade, but give more options.


Also, you should be able to upgrade these blades further - do a long quest that will add permanent elemental damage of one kind? One quest per element, 100 damage per upgrade?

[Aretard]

okay
QUEST for honor of the order
reward from each quest wave= new gems of the sacred order<replacing your current gems
these gems will increase the stats of the blade more and also add on ele damage
the also during these retartedly long quests also branch off so you can get sacred augs found along the way while your questing through the invaded tunnels of the sacred order seemed to be forgotten from the first war but found after they were opened by (insert cool new major megga boss raid name here)'s starting lvl 75 minions

[MicoJive]

if you were to turn it into a holy blade then the reforged glove recipie would need changing...and then ppl on quiver who were to lazy to get the rsb would have an easy in to reforged glove...so no

[shisch]

if you were to turn it into a holy blade then the reforged glove recipie would need changing...and then ppl on quiver who were to lazy to get the rsb would have an easy in to reforged glove...so no

What...
1. you still need the glove tome to drop.
2. Being #1 in exp isn't easy, a DCAA won't do it, DCAA's are slow and unreliable
3. It would only affect max 3 people.


So narrowminded...

[Zapperboy01]

What...
1. you still need the glove tome to drop.
---->> 2. Being #1 in exp isn't easy, a DCAA won't do it, DCAA's are slow and unreliable <<----
3. It would only affect max 3 people.


So narrowminded...

Shisch knows what he's talking about

[Bldyrr17]

How about this,

right now you can upgrade the sboto to reforged. How about instead of being a linear, you can choose whether to upgrade it to the current reforged with kinetic damage (should be renamed to Kinetic, or such), or choose if you'd rather get the already-existing holy blade?

Those who have a reforged already should get to choose if they want to keep it, or change.

The reforged quest (Epic v2.0) would not be affected, as at the end of it, you choose which of the blades you want (in the quest dialogue, show two images so you can compare them easily).

The blades would not necessarily be identical, neither would they have to have much different stats.



That's just my idea of how you would be able to, perhaps not upgrade, but give more options.


Also, you should be able to upgrade these blades further - do a long quest that will add permanent elemental damage of one kind? One quest per element, 100 damage per upgrade?

The HBOTO is only meant to go to 3 people on each server...get over it...your not getting one

[Scarface101]

The HBOTO is only meant to go to 3 people on each server...get over it...your not getting one

Your completely missing the point he is trying to make here. The people who have HBOTO really dont even care for them. Cause they have glove or will get one eventually. What Shisch is saying is that we should have a choice of what kind of ele damage we would like to have on our RSBOTO. Either Kinetic or Holy.

[shisch]

The HBOTO is only meant to go to 3 people on each server...get over it...your not getting one

I don't want one.

Your completely missing the point he is trying to make here. The people who have HBOTO really dont even care for them. Cause they have glove or will get one eventually. What Shisch is saying is that we should have a choice of what kind of ele damage we would like to have on our RSBOTO. Either Kinetic or Holy.

Yep, and then further evolve them, adding another element... and of course increasing the regular stats.

[Scarface101]

I don't want one.



Yep, and then further evolve them, adding another element... and of course increasing the regular stats.

Ok, so I agree with you. But you are always saying how progressing old parts of Outwar is not improvement. So explain further on why you think this change should be made.

[shisch]

Ok, so I agree with you. But you are always saying how progressing old parts of Outwar is not improvement. So explain further on why you think this change should be made.

Cause it's not upgrading an old item - it's adding new content which gives you an option, something that has never existed on Outwar before (no, picking zhulian berzerker / oblivion parts ain't an option in this case). Do you want your weapon to have kinetic and shadow damage, or holy and fire?
An Epic 2.5 (if only adding elemental damage - explained earlier) or Epic 3.0 (if adding another tough quest) is what I mean :)

[Scarface101]

Cause it's not upgrading an old item - it's adding new content which gives you an option, something that has never existed on Outwar before (no, picking zhulian berzerker / oblivion parts ain't an option in this case). Do you want your weapon to have kinetic and shadow damage, or holy and fire?
An Epic 2.5 (if only adding elemental damage - explained earlier) or Epic 3.0 (if adding another tough quest) is what I mean :)

Well, i think making SBOTO/RSBOTO or whatever blade we might be talking about, should be made stronger frequently. And with many updates. Without that, LF gods become useless. (Except for maybe Synge and Rancid). But back on the point, it would be cool to have like an Elemental Blade of the Order, with +100 ATK in all Elemental varieties.

[bucky1337]

How about customizable elements?

Outwar can add:

Temple of Shadow Knight
Temple of the Holy Crusader
Temple of the Fire Demon
Temple of the Arcane Wizard
Temple of the Kinetic Magician

These temples will give you chances to "reforge" your blade and each have quests in them. You can make it so you can only follow one temple, or maybe you can do all the temples and at the end have a final temple and have it be like Temple of the Elements and that is where you get the finished blade that gives +100 each element damage. But with this you will need to updage BRB items to make the reforged glove a lot stronger... maybe +200 elemental damage or something.

With these temples outwar can make new gods... maybe Each temple has a God in it. Shadow God, Holy God, Fire God ect that are raid bosses. Each of them drop a rare essence (not too rare... maybe like 1/5 drop) that will contribute to the blade.

[shisch]

But with this you will need to updage BRB items to make the reforged glove a lot stronger... maybe +200 elemental damage or something.

No they don't, they just need to make sure that nobody can finish these quests too fast (make the temples unlockable by achieving certain things before? Collecting flags old-school MMO style ftw). Perhaps even force a lockout of a month before you can even enter the next temple.

... or somehow sneak in the reforged (or regular, I prefer regular) power glove into the final temple, so that you would have to sacrifice that one, too... :)

[bucky1337]

Well seeing that people turn RSB in to get reforged glove I think that this should happen:

allow gloves to drop more, allow tomes to drop more

with those 2 happening then more will get the reforged glove which means that people that already have the reforged glove dont get screwed over.

[Dante67]

Here's a building idea on the temples which is quite good I might add. Firstly once you enter one temple you are not allowed in another one until that temple is complete. So before you enter they will ask you are you sure you want to follow the path of Shadows (for example) as your next upgrade. To complete that temple you would need a drop, among other quests, that come from gods designed for that element.

Not the foundry but a new line of gods. For HP I'm thinking somewhere around 600k-700k so nothing too easy but not impossible. Make the normal attack around 3-5k but the elemental damage significantly high. Starting at about 10k moving up to 15k. Each god has a different element and would have new equipment but the quest item you need would be a 5-10% drop rate. Not totally rare but something that isn't going to drop every time it's killed.

I like the lockout idea for each temple. Otherwise it would be too easy. Also another idea instead of the lockout is that to enter the temple you require X number of the drop for that element.

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions for building?

[bucky1337]

Here's a building idea on the temples which is quite good I might add. Firstly once you enter one temple you are not allowed in another one until that temple is complete. So before you enter they will ask you are you sure you want to follow the path of Shadows (for example) as your next upgrade. To complete that temple you would need a drop, among other quests, that come from gods designed for that element.

Not the foundry but a new line of gods. For HP I'm thinking somewhere around 600k-700k so nothing too easy but not impossible. Make the normal attack around 3-5k but the elemental damage significantly high. Starting at about 10k moving up to 15k. Each god has a different element and would have new equipment but the quest item you need would be a 5-10% drop rate. Not totally rare but something that isn't going to drop every time it's killed.

I like the lockout idea for each temple. Otherwise it would be too easy. Also another idea instead of the lockout is that to enter the temple you require X number of the drop for that element.

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions for building?

The problem with introducing new gods is crew raids... what if some accounts do not want holy first and do shadow and then they cant help with holy... the lockout idea would kill it but how about a quest line starting from Holy to Kinetic. I think the raids should be small though, maybe like 2-5 should be able to kill it because you do not want it too easy or too hard. if 2-5 do it then the essence that the temple god drops 1 person will be able to get it at a time leaving 1 peson out I guess so this would need to be modified somehow but I dont think lockout is a good idea.

[Dante67]

The problem with introducing new gods is crew raids... what if some accounts do not want holy first and do shadow and then they cant help with holy... the lockout idea would kill it but how about a quest line starting from Holy to Kinetic. I think the raids should be small though, maybe like 2-5 should be able to kill it because you do not want it too easy or too hard. if 2-5 do it then the essence that the temple god drops 1 person will be able to get it at a time leaving 1 peson out I guess so this would need to be modified somehow but I dont think lockout is a good idea.

I wasn't thinking having the gods inside of the temples and if the quest line is from holy-kinetic then that defeats the purpose of making it customizable. All accounts could help it's just a matter of where the crew wants to go with it. In essence you could go for all 5 if you wanted to. Just pick and choose the times to go for it. I was thinking 5 day spawn for each one that way it can be brought into the cap system easier.

Also on top of the ele damage ugrade you would recieve a small boost in attack for the blade. That way it would be all around better. Something like 20 attack so when you get all 5 you have +100 attack like you'd receive from each element.

[mcmuffin125]

sounds like a sweet idea the only probem i see in that is the weapon getting way to strong and it sounds like its gonna be way to easy to get a nice weapon pgrade with a little bit more thought this could be an awesome idea though

[seenoevil666]

the weapon doesnt need upgraded, items get replaced, symphony sets used to be the best, elly sets used to be the best, hell at one point astro sets or the swat vest sold for tons!

items get replaced by more powerful ones you dont see outwar coming out with the uber super ultimate reforged x20 swat vest because at one point it was a very valuable item do you?

no just like the swat vest and so many other items that were at the top at one point died out the sacred blade / rfsb need to die out

[shisch]

sounds like a sweet idea the only probem i see in that is the weapon getting way to strong and it sounds like its gonna be way to easy to get a nice weapon pgrade with a little bit more thought this could be an awesome idea though

Which is why you give it small upgrades for a humongous amount of work - nothing tedious, but well thought out.

With some care put into this, I think it could really become awesome... so I'd really see a group of players get together and discuss this through, after being hired for this particular quest (series) by the admins. "Hired" could equal for free.

[bucky1337]

the problem with the sacred blade dieing out is its called an "epic quest" it should be continuous throughout the game.

[Dante67]

the problem with the sacred blade dieing out is its called an "epic quest" it should be continuous throughout the game.

Agreed which is why I'd be more then interested in taking the idea and getting together with other players who would like to come together and try to polish this quest up. If anyone is interested send me a PM on the forums and we can YIM or mIRC to get a brainstorm session going.

[shisch]

Agreed which is why I'd be more then interested in taking the idea and getting together with other players who would like to come together and try to polish this quest up. If anyone is interested send me a PM on the forums and we can YIM or mIRC to get a brainstorm session going.

Would love to, but not gonna do it before we get a yes from the admins... would be a waste of effort (unless another game adopts it :o )

[bucky1337]

Well, it's my idea, I don't really want help with it because I want my name tagged to the idea :)

[shisch]

Well, it's my idea, I don't really want help with it because I want my name tagged to the idea :)

There's more than one idea in this thread.

[Dante67]

There's more than one idea in this thread.

Quite right. There was a collection of ideas from a few players that built upon the initial idea so why would you just get all the credit? The initial idea was lame but with collective minds it's become something that people are interested in. I wouldn't have submitted the idea with just my name attached since I just introduced parts of it.

[shisch]

Quite right. There was a collection of ideas from a few players that built upon the initial idea so why would you just get all the credit? The initial idea was lame but with collective minds it's become something that people are interested in. I wouldn't have submitted the idea with just my name attached since I just introduced parts of it.

And there's always ways to improve things by using someone else's input, so even if the quest would've been decent if I made it up all by myself, it's be awesome if someone else or several else took part of the creation, as well.

If you just wanna submit quests for the creds, then it's time to stop feeding your ego :o

[Dante67]

I just want a new quest so that the blade doesn't die out. I've been in since way before it was introduced and to see the item that everyone has wanted for years to die out because "it's past it's time" is ridiculous. You don't call the quest Epic and leave it in the dust. What's the next best item quest supposed to be called Uber?

The blade should live on and I want to help keep it living.

However back to submitting ideas. Now I know that since you can use your reforged for the reforged glove, that leaves the 2 people who have them left out in the cold. Also if someone attains the glove with the new reforged blade they'd wonder if all their hard work was for nothing. I say that we allow the people with the glove to be able to take part in this quest and I have an idea for those who will have upgraded their blades.

I think that if someone with a glove wants to do this quest then it would be the same just reducing the normal attack bonus. Lower it to 10 attack per elemental enhancement seeing as it is the most powerful weapon in the game. It doesn't need that big of a boost or even if we just cut out the normal attack altogether but kept the elemental damage in it.

For someone who is using an enhanced reforged blade for the glove, allow the elemental attack to transfer over and just keep the normal attack or if the admins decide to go with the reduced attack bonus then add that to the mix.

Opinion on this shisch? I like your constructive input as it seems you speak your mind in a non flaming manner :P

[Scarface101]

I just want a new quest so that the blade doesn't die out. I've been in since way before it was introduced and to see the item that everyone has wanted for years to die out because "it's past it's time" is ridiculous. You don't call the quest Epic and leave it in the dust. What's the next best item quest supposed to be called Uber?

The blade should live on and I want to help keep it living.

However back to submitting ideas. Now I know that since you can use your reforged for the reforged glove, that leaves the 2 people who have them left out in the cold. Also if someone attains the glove with the new reforged blade they'd wonder if all their hard work was for nothing. I say that we allow the people with the glove to be able to take part in this quest and I have an idea for those who will have upgraded their blades.

I think that if someone with a glove wants to do this quest then it would be the same just reducing the normal attack bonus. Lower it to 10 attack per elemental enhancement seeing as it is the most powerful weapon in the game. It doesn't need that big of a boost or even if we just cut out the normal attack altogether but kept the elemental damage in it.

For someone who is using an enhanced reforged blade for the glove, allow the elemental attack to transfer over and just keep the normal attack or if the admins decide to go with the reduced attack bonus then add that to the mix.

Opinion on this shisch? I like your constructive input as it seems you speak your mind in a non flaming manner :P

Shisch is good at that, and I know shisch will like this, cause he is all for keeping the game authentic. and keeping the good stuff here. just updating it in a good manner.

[shisch]

I just want a new quest so that the blade doesn't die out. I've been in since way before it was introduced and to see the item that everyone has wanted for years to die out because "it's past it's time" is ridiculous. You don't call the quest Epic and leave it in the dust. What's the next best item quest supposed to be called Uber?

The blade should live on and I want to help keep it living.

However back to submitting ideas. Now I know that since you can use your reforged for the reforged glove, that leaves the 2 people who have them left out in the cold. Also if someone attains the glove with the new reforged blade they'd wonder if all their hard work was for nothing. I say that we allow the people with the glove to be able to take part in this quest and I have an idea for those who will have upgraded their blades.

I think that if someone with a glove wants to do this quest then it would be the same just reducing the normal attack bonus. Lower it to 10 attack per elemental enhancement seeing as it is the most powerful weapon in the game. It doesn't need that big of a boost or even if we just cut out the normal attack altogether but kept the elemental damage in it.

For someone who is using an enhanced reforged blade for the glove, allow the elemental attack to transfer over and just keep the normal attack or if the admins decide to go with the reduced attack bonus then add that to the mix.

Opinion on this shisch? I like your constructive input as it seems you speak your mind in a non flaming manner :P

Sorry if there was any confusion in my last post, I used "you" in a "you the crowd" way :)

I'm definitely not for updating (buffing) old items, just increasing their stats, but I am much for upGRADING old items. This particular should require a substantial amount of effort, and I think that's what this thread is pretty much about.

I'm not sure if I quite get it though (my net died on me for a while so my head is elsewhere), could you give an explanation please?

[Dante67]

Sorry if there was any confusion in my last post, I used "you" in a "you the crowd" way :)

I'm definitely not for updating (buffing) old items, just increasing their stats, but I am much for upGRADING old items. This particular should require a substantial amount of effort, and I think that's what this thread is pretty much about.

I'm not sure if I quite get it though (my net died on me for a while so my head is elsewhere), could you give an explanation please?

Certainly I can.

Firstly the reforged glove is above the reforged blade. You've used the blade to make the reforged glove. So since it is part of the mix for the glove why let only reforged blade holders have all the fun. People with reforged gloves can do the quests like someone with the blade only they won't receive normal attack enhancements. Just the elemental or if the admins decide they want to have normal attack enhancing for the glove, then reduce the amount it gains as opposed to the blade.

Now if you've already enhanced your reforged blade and get the chance to gain the reforged glove, it would be stupid to let all your effort go to waste right? So when you submit your blade for the glove allow the glove to have the same stats as if you had done the quests with the glove. So you have the elemental enhancements already built in.

Does that make sense now?

[shisch]

Certainly I can.

Firstly the reforged glove is above the reforged blade. You've used the blade to make the reforged glove. So since it is part of the mix for the glove why let only reforged blade holders have all the fun. People with reforged gloves can do the quests like someone with the blade only they won't receive normal attack enhancements. Just the elemental or if the admins decide they want to have normal attack enhancing for the glove, then reduce the amount it gains as opposed to the blade.

Now if you've already enhanced your reforged blade and get the chance to gain the reforged glove, it would be stupid to let all your effort go to waste right? So when you submit your blade for the glove allow the glove to have the same stats as if you had done the quests with the glove. So you have the elemental enhancements already built in.

Does that make sense now?

I think it does, and it really does sound like a smart and in reality functional solution :)

I'd really love to see this whole idea be implemented, would actually make me wanna get a reforged if I then can access certain quests :)

[bucky1337]

You 3 want to meet up on mirc and get a draft started on this and we can submit the draft on this thread for admins?

[Dante67]

You 3 want to meet up on mirc and get a draft started on this and we can submit the draft on this thread for admins?

I'd be more then happy to do that. I'm not an IRC wiz so if could pm me the server and channel I'd appreciate that and we can get started.

[shisch]

You 3 want to meet up on mirc and get a draft started on this and we can submit the draft on this thread for admins?

If we get a clear from the admins, sure... like I said previously, I don't wanna spend lots of time developing this idea if it doesn't happen.

[Dante67]

If we get a clear from the admins, sure... like I said previously, I don't wanna spend lots of time developing this idea if it doesn't happen.

Any idea how we can get the clear from admins?

[shisch]

Any idea how we can get the clear from admins?

Would be if they posted here, or messaged one of us, saying "Go do it guys, we'd love to add something like this into the game" ... not the usual sarcastic posts that are found in other sections, or lack of posts that are found in the brainstorm section :o

[Dante67]

Would be if they posted here, or messaged one of us, saying "Go do it guys, we'd love to add something like this into the game" ... not the usual sarcastic posts that are found in other sections, or lack of posts that are found in the brainstorm section :o

I guess they have no interest which is pretty crappy since it feels like it would be a hit with players. Something new to strive for in my opinion.

EDIT: Since it appears they have a plan in place for CoES to upgrade the epic quest I guess our thoughts were all for naught or maybe they're going to use our idea? If so I hope they contact us to help them with the development. That would be sweet

[ghost999]

I guess they have no interest which is pretty crappy since it feels like it would be a hit with players. Something new to strive for in my opinion.

EDIT: Since it appears they have a plan in place for CoES to upgrade the epic quest I guess our thoughts were all for naught or maybe they're going to use our idea? If so I hope they contact us to help them with the development. That would be sweet

just pointing out new area is due a rare drop for a new improved blade would work n v well also give us a reason to get as we can buy protons or neckslitters alot easier no real achievement in that

[Pwner]

why change whats fine? ow will just ruin it like they have done the last few months for everything they have changed. the only thing they should do is make a V3 blade, thats new, must have the reforged blade and turn that in after doing some shit to get the new blade, the new blade will have 100 more atk, 150 kin, arcane, shadow atk, 50 more rage/exp and 1k more max rage (ungemed) compared to the reforged blade

the reforged blade was nerfed a month or 2 ago, they shouldnt nerf it anymore, just addon to the whole blade quest likes (reg. blade / reforged blade) to make a "super reforged blade" haha

[barashkukor]

I love how people often get so locked in and committed to an idea that they don't see the big pic.

Just forget upping the blade anymore. Its fine leave it alone.

How about more quests from the order for things like an epic helm, neck or legs?

basically a whole epic set?

And then a reforged epic set?

How about not even making them interdependent? Let people go for an epic shield instead of an epic blade.

Or even Epic buffs, skills, or aug quests? Like a quest that ends in giving you 100 holy damage to any attack you make? or 50 holy resist?

Or make the blade do more damage with certain "good" items and less damage with certain "evil" items equipped?

Get out of the box you made for yourselves and look at all the cool possibilities that exist.

[dep]

I love how people often get so locked in and committed to an idea that they don't see the big pic.

Just forget upping the blade anymore. Its fine leave it alone.

How about more quests from the order for things like an epic helm, neck or legs?

basically a whole epic set?

And then a reforged epic set?

How about not even making them interdependent? Let people go for an epic shield instead of an epic blade.

Or even Epic buffs, skills, or aug quests? Like a quest that ends in giving you 100 holy damage to any attack you make? or 50 holy resist?

Or make the blade do more damage with certain "good" items and less damage with certain "evil" items equipped?

Get out of the box you made for yourselves and look at all the cool possibilities that exist.

i think thats a great idea, it would add some diversity to the game, and more enjoyable

[shisch]

I love how people often get so locked in and committed to an idea that they don't see the big pic.

Just forget upping the blade anymore. Its fine leave it alone.

How about more quests from the order for things like an epic helm, neck or legs?

basically a whole epic set?

And then a reforged epic set?

How about not even making them interdependent? Let people go for an epic shield instead of an epic blade.

Or even Epic buffs, skills, or aug quests? Like a quest that ends in giving you 100 holy damage to any attack you make? or 50 holy resist?

Or make the blade do more damage with certain "good" items and less damage with certain "evil" items equipped?

Get out of the box you made for yourselves and look at all the cool possibilities that exist.

I dunno who said that the current epic quest should be the only epic quest and only give a weapon as a reward - if you have any ideas of what other epic quests to add, then please feel free to post about it in another thread.

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[shazo]

i was thinking a few diffrent items such as
sacred aug quests available only with the blade
and like sacred order gems more acheivments you can get as you advance through the sacred order any more ideas?

they could do a room or so for those who have sboto (sacred order members)
have a new fresh quests for the order members to do
+ they could maybe make 1-3 raid gods in there as only members of the orden can enter it.

[DeroICB84]

how about some originality scrap the whole rsboto thing its old and died out.

maybe some new slots like ring/belt those are epic fails and no good things for them really.

some originality would help!

[shisch]

how about some originality scrap the whole rsboto thing its old and died out.

maybe some new slots like ring/belt those are epic fails and no good things for them really.

some originality would help!

You come up with it in your own thread, then. This is for new ways to improve and expand the current rsboto - don't like the idea, be constructive about it.

[DeroICB84]

You come up with it in your own thread, then. This is for new ways to improve and expand the current rsboto - don't like the idea, be constructive about it.

why should an item that was at top for so long and had nothing close to it continue to keep expanding?

leave it as it is you want a better one go buy augs for it if not stfu.

A new quest for a different slot/skill is definitely needed and no not a stupi shield or a blade thas been around forever. Like I said previously a neck/ring would do good since there isn't many GOOD necks/ring that were available

[shisch]

why should an item that was at top for so long and had nothing close to it continue to keep expanding?

leave it as it is you want a better one go buy augs for it if not stfu.

A new quest for a different slot/skill is definitely needed and no not a stupi shield or a blade thas been around forever. Like I said previously a neck/ring would do good since there isn't many GOOD necks/ring that were available

I guess you haven't read this thread thoroughly. Perhaps if you did you'd not troll as much.
But then, judging by your post history, you're never constructive...

[DeroICB84]

I guess you haven't read this thread thoroughly. Perhaps if you did you'd not troll as much.
But then, judging by your post history, you're never constructive...

I have contructive posts when they are needed as far as I see it this is just another fail attempt at those who dwell in the past. GAME PROGRESSION.

and I don't think your one to talk concerning posts or anything at all

[shisch]

I have contructive posts when they are needed as far as I see it this is just another fail attempt at those who dwell in the past. GAME PROGRESSION.

and I don't think your one to talk concerning posts or anything at all

http://forums.rampidgaming.com/showthread.php?t=8375&p=100682
And the following posts on that page.

That's also game progression. It doesn't upgrade items without a reason, it upgrades because there's new content to do.

Like I said, perhaps you should actually take a look in the threads you're posting in before you do so.

[DeroICB84]

http://forums.rampidgaming.com/showthread.php?t=8375&p=100682
And the following posts on that page.

That's also game progression. It doesn't upgrade items without a reason, it upgrades because there's new content to do.

Like I said, perhaps you should actually take a look in the threads you're posting in before you do so.

how bout I did? lol but Ill stop arguing with you ciao!

Edit:For weapon wise i always said an elemental blade would be nice but the fact to continuosly upgrade a weapon is very old and needs to be changed

[barashkukor]

I guess you haven't read this thread thoroughly. Perhaps if you did you'd not troll as much.
But then, judging by your post history, you're never constructive...

There is a difference between trolling and voicing an opinion.
I am sorry that several peoples opinions have been the best way to improve the blade is to move on to something else.

I even offered a bunch of alternatives that would complement the blade. As have several others.

You have chosen to participate in a discussion. Not everyone is going to just agree with you.
Deal with it.
Or keep balling up your freakishly tiny fists and shrieking. Your choice.
BTW where do you find gloves for hands that small. Or are you just forced to wear mittens made for 8 year olds. rofl

[shisch]

There is a difference between trolling and voicing an opinion.
I am sorry that several peoples opinions have been the best way to improve the blade is to move on to something else.

I even offered a bunch of alternatives that would complement the blade. As have several others.

You have chosen to participate in a discussion. Not everyone is going to just agree with you.
Deal with it.
Or keep balling up your freakishly tiny fists and shrieking. Your choice.
BTW where do you find gloves for hands that small. Or are you just forced to wear mittens made for 8 year olds. rofl

I suppose you have not used forums much? If this thread was named "Epic quests" or "Way to enhance and add items", then sure, go ahead and toss in your ideas about other slots and whatnot - but it's not, it's about the RSBOTO, so keep it on topic.

Perhaps if you and Derol weren't rude in your very first posts in this thread, I wouldn't have snapped at either of you. You know, "it's not what you say, but how". There's a difference between saying "This is so ****ing lame gtfo nub" and "I have another idea, how about..." .

Still, that'd not solve the off-topic part.
As I have already said, create your own topic if you want to tell everyone about your ideas for epic quests which yields rewards for other slots - this one is about the RSBOTO, leave it that way.

[nhake]

I blame most of this on other weapons being almost as good and far, far easier to get. I think the RSBOTO should stay at what it is and the rest of the items get changed as needed to match up. It's no secret that rampid has a bad habbit of controdicting itself on items. Neckslitter, Power Glove, Reforged Power Glove are all set as they should be above reforged. If you really want to talk about items being adjusted I'd go from there. Blade of haunted magma is ridiculous when it came out. It just doesn't compare to the difficulty that the items in the same stat class hold. The curling flask also needs a boost if you ask me.

As already stated, this is just a thread on RSBOTO, but you NEED to take into account the items around it to see the full point of my post. The RSBOTO is fine the other weapons in it's class need to be adjusted.

[barashkukor]

I suppose you have not used forums much? If this thread was named "Epic quests" or "Way to enhance and add items", then sure, go ahead and toss in your ideas about other slots and whatnot - but it's not, it's about the RSBOTO, so keep it on topic.

Perhaps if you and Derol weren't rude in your very first posts in this thread, I wouldn't have snapped at either of you. You know, "it's not what you say, but how". There's a difference between saying "This is so ****ing lame gtfo nub" and "I have another idea, how about..." .

Still, that'd not solve the off-topic part.
As I have already said, create your own topic if you want to tell everyone about your ideas for epic quests which yields rewards for other slots - this one is about the RSBOTO, leave it that way.

Just be honest.
This isn't about the ways to improve the blade that benefit the greater good.
This is about someone (not gonna point fingers) trying to get an additional reward for a quest they have already completed.

Please just move on. RSBOTO is done.

And for the record lets just look at post#1

i was thinking a few diffrent items such as
sacred aug quests available only with the blade
and like sacred order gems more acheivments you can get as you advance through the sacred order any more ideas?

Hmmmmmm. That doesn't sound like changing the existing blade.
That sounds more like what us "Trolls" were saying.
New quest, new items, new achievements.

Maybe you have not used forums much or have suffered a major head injury, but you really need to read the thread more carefully.

[qITIp]

If anything the next step on the blade line should add to the glove -_-

I still want the day where we blade holders are called on for the big battle

[GAGE]

If anything the next step on the blade line should add to the glove -_-

I still want the day where we blade holders are called on for the big battle

lol i still need to get a reforged blade lol and a glove and a tome -_-

[DeroICB84]

If anything the next step on the blade line should add to the glove -_-

I still want the day where we blade holders are called on for the big battle

an Epic War!!!! Sounds omfggggggggggggggggggggg ownage!

[PureDeception]

Here's a building idea on the temples which is quite good I might add. Firstly once you enter one temple you are not allowed in another one until that temple is complete. So before you enter they will ask you are you sure you want to follow the path of Shadows (for example) as your next upgrade. To complete that temple you would need a drop, among other quests, that come from gods designed for that element.

Not the foundry but a new line of gods. For HP I'm thinking somewhere around 600k-700k so nothing too easy but not impossible. Make the normal attack around 3-5k but the elemental damage significantly high. Starting at about 10k moving up to 15k. Each god has a different element and would have new equipment but the quest item you need would be a 5-10% drop rate. Not totally rare but something that isn't going to drop every time it's killed.

I like the lockout idea for each temple. Otherwise it would be too easy. Also another idea instead of the lockout is that to enter the temple you require X number of the drop for that element.

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions for building?

Also make the gods only raidable by the people that ARE in the temples. So that way nobody that doesn't have the SBOTO can just raid the gods daily. Make it like temple-only raid gods.