Raiding

[monaro]

Some people may agree and some may dissagree with what im about to say, but i just thought i'd share my opinion of this.

I think raiding is a little bit under-rewarding for the effort we have to go to in order to get items. I mean imho, raiding a boss with 15+ people and having only 2 items drop, in which are 80% of the time never your colour so u cant roll for them, is really no motivation to want to raid a boss. This also brings a lot of hate between players, as people get numerous items, while people who deserve them more get none. I mean I myself have been lucky lately getting 3 fire items i needed. But in this, people can raid for weeks and not get a single thing, making them pissed off and not wanting to actually participate in raiding anymore... in which has happened to many people i know.

Anyways, im just throwing an opinion out there and i'd like to see what u guys think, so plz feel free to voice ur oninion, but in my opinion i think the work:rewards ratio is a little bit unfair atm...

[DeathStalker908]

Some people may agree and some may dissagree with what im about to say, but i just thought i'd share my opinion of this.

I think raiding is a little bit under-rewarding for the effort we have to go to in order to get items. I mean imho, raiding a boss with 15+ people and having only 2 items drop, in which are 80% of the time never your colour so u cant roll for them, is really no motivation to want to raid a boss. This also brings a lot of hate between players, as people get numerous items, while people who deserve them more get none. I mean I myself have been lucky lately getting 3 fire items i needed. But in this, people can raid for weeks and not get a single thing, making them pissed off and not wanting to actually participate in raiding anymore... in which has happened to many people i know.

Anyways, im just throwing an opinion out there and i'd like to see what u guys think, so plz feel free to voice ur oninion, but in my opinion i think the work:rewards ratio is a little bit unfair atm...

I agree 100%...I speak out for the people who have crappy rolls (and yes, I'm one of them).

In this new patch, it literally takes 15+ people to kill a boss, and getting to the boss is very time consuming as well. In the last raid we had, I believe that there were 16 people and the boss dropped 2 items. So what were the chances of one person getting an item? You had about a 6% chance of receiving an item. But then again, if the item ISN'T your color, you are not allowed to roll, which means you have a lower chance of getting an item.

Like I said before, it is extremely time consuming, and if you mess up once, you have to restart. It took us about half an hour to 45 minutes to get to the boss and kill it, then another 5 minutes to roll. I, obviously, didn't win the roll for any of the items, and instead, my hatred for DP has significantly increased due to the fact that he rolled higher than me.

Solution: Either make the mini-bosses (the ones you have to kill to get to the boss) easier to kill, OR make the bosses drop more items in one kill.

That's just my opinion though....Oh and btw slash, I hate you too since you received the Hate Fury cloak which has my favorite word in its name...

[SaintSin]

Just out of curiosity...is there a reason why Sigil is the only boss in the game that will drop more than one of the same item (ie: 2 swords, and 2 pants)? If other bosses did that then I don't think raiding would be as big of a nuicanse. And is it still possible to do fake rolls? I know several people ('that guy'...) who are well known for knowing/abuseing that glitch so I'mjust wondering if it's still possible and if it is, why hasen't it been removed?

[monaro]

first of all, just a quick message to DS... "i HATE you, I have so much FURY in my blood for you" :P

Sin, exactly my point with the sigil thing, i think more than 1 item of the same kind should drop from a boss, even if it is only 2 of each, that is still extremely improved from the 1 of each we have been getting...

I've actually been thinking of an idea, that i think could be put into test, yet it might not be too popular with others.. Something along the lines of when you kill a boss, items drop from every player, anything from simple reagents for the unlucky player, to 1 or rarely maybe 2 of the items the boss drops... This way, everybody still has a random chance to get an item, and even if its possible, make it so that person can only get items of that colour? but this also brings in the dilemma that some people also use items out of colour just for other stats...

[Gebbstyr]

That is how almost every MMO game is designed. Bosses shouldn't drop an item for every person there. Trying to make the game way too easy than it already is now it seems lol.

In Everquest there would be 72 people in a raid and only 4-5 items drop. I went months without seeing anything I could use.

Looks like you need to make a system that tracks attendance for raids and award those that show up and participate more =)

[KingApocalypse]

i disagree,

its good how it is like now,

i dont want the whole server to get an item in like a week.....that makes the game too easy and boring. You should WORK for it and have pariency.

[monaro]

with all do respect i said nothing about everybody getting an item, just a few people get lucky each raid and get one, maybe 3-4 people at the max....

And also, it is a game to have fun, not work lol... yes you need to work hard to have more fun, but too much work is also a bit of a bummer... its just how ive noticed a few people feeling recently thats all.

[wvbigdave2007]

Agreed slash, that is why sometimes I don't participate cause of the lack of winning any items. If I am bored, I usually go to have the chance but be of help to the whole team! Damn I am missing this game already! :mad:

[rufneck]

well to be honest i put this game in low gear because of this i was like online 3-4 hours a day but to keep up with people like in ED you need like double of that time or the right time zone i guess. So all there was to do for me is the camp a boss on my own and if he is to high lvl spam then world chat of someone could help me kill it when a lot of people come running you still get left with nothing.

BTW quick question what are ways to get into a crew like ED because you guys do not seem to talk to other players ingame that are not in a guild or willing to take them into the group for raiding. while before SS things where better and i could hook up with you guys np now it is very hard for me to join up even if i don't want anything but the company and to help.

so now i am playing even less like maybe a few hours a week because there is no way i will do a shitload of work trying to get a team together and hope to get a drop if the boss i was camping hasn't been killed by a group i just called to help kill it.

i hope you guys notice what a big advantage you guys have over the regular players. and i am not talking about like how you can hit 4.5k damage in 1 hit vs me while i only do like 1.5k with my reme fireball or searing blaze. it's just the best armour in the game and i know you have to work for it but if you cannot be online as much as 8 hours a day your pretty much screwed at lvl 50

[Lann625]

The rolling rates are so messed up.. One day I was getting all 90s next day highest roll was 12 rofl. Seriously they are screwed up and it makes friends more distant because they accuse people of faking a roll

[pimpa]

what i find ironic is that its the people with the best items that are complaining lol, but yea sometimes it can be piss annoying when theres an item that you need and someone beats you in the roll... but thats life, if your looking for more items to be dropped it will make the entire game a whole lot easier, i see a lot of new items come to the game every day so there really isnt a shortage of items... if you think doing 1 roll isnt the best way to decide who gets what, do a best out of 3 rolls lol... or a tournament type roll system where the lowest roller is out so if theres 15 people there will be like 14 rolls if you understand what i mean... might be more time consuming but who knows it might work lol

I WANT MORE ITEMS!!!