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Xplay
01-14-2008, 06:34 PM
Before the major update and downtime and system restore of the servers. The experience growth for my lvl 55 account was 1 million. Now when I come back I see that now I must grow 2.5 million to get to next level. Now Outwar staff, I see that you want people work harder and longer on the game and on ones account but you shouldn't make it so that our exp limit is basically doubled.

I grow 10k a day. Back before the update I needed 100 days to level. Now it takes me 250 days. I view that as somewhat unfair. Making me wait longer and work harder to achieve something that would have been somewhat more reasonably easier on the old system seem much more of a fair system. Especially compared to what we are offered now.

What I am asking is that you bring it back to the old limits or look at these new limits and reconsider them. I ask of you.

-Xplay

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 06:39 PM
If you can only grow 10,000 a day.
are you using DC? these new level limits where put into place to;

a)balance the leveling system, 3 levels requiring over 50% of your total EXP to 60 was ridiculous
b) get people more active in DC, now you have the chance to DC your way better.

I think the new system is much better xD.

Domination
01-14-2008, 06:40 PM
i think the new growth set up is perfect. i think they should have set the max lvl too 100 not 70 though.

Xplay
01-14-2008, 06:44 PM
If you can only grow 10,000 a day.
are you using DC? these new level limits where put into place to;

a)balance the leveling system, 3 levels requiring over 50% of your total EXP to 60 was ridiculous
b) get people more active in DC, now you have the chance to DC your way better.

I think the new system is much better xD.

A. I not near there so I haven't seen the requirement to lvl 60.
B. You've always had the chance to DC better. But now. You must DC MORE to get basically the same thing.

And I don't DC much. Once you reach my lvl. It doesn't really matter anymore.

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 06:47 PM
DC'ing matters at every level except 70.
for every single exp point you gain doing DC, is an experience point gained from no Growth per day, or anyother stat.

its 1 less point you need to get to your next level, with about 10,000 M.Rage you can DC 20,000+ with no problem, its all a matter of wether you can be bothered to do the work required.

Xplay
01-14-2008, 06:55 PM
Course it depends on the time you're willing put in. Problem is is that I have somewhat of a life. Mostly homework lol.

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 06:59 PM
I'll only DC for about 1 hour a day, and thats if I'm lucky.
truth is at the moment DC'ing doesn't require to much time to be put in.

even with 10 minutes DC'ing you can knock a sizeable chunk off of any amount of EXP needed.

and Xplay, trust me 95% of the players that play outwar have lives. i'm currently working a 60 hour week alongside OW, and I don't often get that much time on it :P

Eagleskill
01-14-2008, 09:13 PM
The new growth is there. Youll get over the changes, in the long run its worth it. More levels and the exp:level ratio is more balanced.

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 09:34 PM
It was a good change in the long run. But I can't help but think that keeping everyone that was lvl 53, at lvl 53, even if it gave them like 5mil exp in the process. Whatever the current persons exp was, they should have fallen to the level it matched to. People would have gotten over dropped a couple levels, because well, EVERYONE would have fell.

Its kinda like when they changed atk/hp from 39mil to 390. Everyone was like OMFG IM SO WEAK NOW... but in all actuality, everyone dropped evenly and it worked out pleasently :)

Egnar
01-14-2008, 09:35 PM
Course it depends on the time you're willing put in. Problem is is that I have somewhat of a life. Mostly homework lol.

Don't pull that card. I work 2 jobs and go to school full time. I find plenty of time to go out with my friends and party on the weekends and just hang out and I still have time to DC for 30-45 minutes a day if I want to. . .The problem is I never want to :).

grizz
01-14-2008, 09:51 PM
Don't pull that card. I work 2 jobs and go to school full time. I find plenty of time to go out with my friends and party on the weekends and just hang out and I still have time to DC for 30-45 minutes a day if I want to. . .The problem is I never want to :).

well aren't you Mr Superman

Domination
01-14-2008, 09:54 PM
He's close enough, i work full time and go to night school and still find 2 hour to potion hunt.

jeffers1986
01-14-2008, 10:15 PM
Although im happy they tried to stop people from making loads of 40+ multis, its bullshit that we all went from 250k per lvl to over 1 mil. Basically the people who got over lvl 50 got the better end of the deal.

Domination
01-14-2008, 10:16 PM
well ya, it better then before where from lvl 40 to 50 was 250k per lvl it was way to easy to get to then.

jeffers1986
01-14-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh and another point, this severely screwed over the new players. I got a few friends to start but when I told them the lvl reqs they were like "f- this, i dont have that kind of time".

Pwner
01-14-2008, 10:30 PM
the only thing that got screwed with the new change was the balance of rancid... it allowed only 1 crew to do SR... and made it really horriblely unbalanced... on all the other servers no one should complain since 95% of the accounts are level 55+ now and it only made reaching level 60 much easyer for u... i gained like a free 15mil on fabar haha

but for rancid, i had 3 mil to go for level 55, then the change came and poof i had like 13.5mil to now go... so gay, but thats why i returned to fabar and quit rancid haha

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 10:32 PM
Wow. That must have sucked bad. Sigil Server ftw! ^_^

Pwner
01-14-2008, 10:33 PM
well ya, it better then before where from lvl 40 to 50 was 250k per lvl it was way to easy to get to then.

it was way easy to get to level 57 or w/e and then took forever to get to level 60, now from level 57 to level 60 its way easy and more balanced for the other levels...

my only problem was they shouldnt of done it to rancid, they should of waited till most were level 55+ or they should of done it before the server started to make it fair

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 10:33 PM
LOL jeffers same here. People shake their heads when I explain this game to them...

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 10:37 PM
I don't even try to explain it. LOL.

jeffers1986
01-14-2008, 10:38 PM
This is one of those games where you have to have been there from the start or youre totally boned. That or you have to be rl friends with someone that will hand your free SR items and give you 500k a day.

Domination
01-14-2008, 10:39 PM
It's hard to explain this game without getting violent

PlayaFoSho
01-14-2008, 10:50 PM
Before the major update and downtime and system restore of the servers. The experience growth for my lvl 55 account was 1 million. Now when I come back I see that now I must grow 2.5 million to get to next level. Now Outwar staff, I see that you want people work harder and longer on the game and on ones account but you shouldn't make it so that our exp limit is basically doubled.

I grow 10k a day. Back before the update I needed 100 days to level. Now it takes me 250 days. I view that as somewhat unfair. Making me wait longer and work harder to achieve something that would have been somewhat more reasonably easier on the old system seem much more of a fair system. Especially compared to what we are offered now.

What I am asking is that you bring it back to the old limits or look at these new limits and reconsider them. I ask of you.

-Xplay

Takes 20-25 minutes to use 15k rage if you even have 15k rage. 15 rage used in DC will get you 45,000 exp ontop of your 10,000 from items. You cant just sit back and not work for it and expect to get it. You definetly have no right to complain if you are a slacker.

jeffers1986
01-15-2008, 01:00 AM
Thats still over a month of hard dcing which is pretty hard when you have other stuff to do. Plus, on top of that lvls 56-59 recieved an ungodly amount of free exp while anyone under 50 got the short end of the deal. its ironic, i can get 50k a day with my new items and i couldve leveled once a week under the old system but now i have to get quadruple the exp.

Bloodkitty1st
01-15-2008, 05:22 AM
Its now balance, it used to have low EXP all the way to 57, and 57-60 were a fudging *****.

they've made it so its more balance as you go up levels, trying to make the incremements more DC friendly. When you had to grow 8,000,000 for 1 level, it was bordering on ridiculous.

almightywoodygod
01-15-2008, 05:45 AM
As far as the change goes, everyone benefited from it a little. Everyone got some free xp. Now it may not way against the differences for a few people, and it may outway them immensely for a few, but It needed to happen and it did. This is still much better than the alternative where people would have had their level lowered because then everyone would have had to reset their skills. Really outwar would have had to issue a free skill reset. Much easier and much less disruptive to do it this way.

xHatred
12-08-2008, 01:45 PM
Before the major update and downtime and system restore of the servers. The experience growth for my lvl 55 account was 1 million. Now when I come back I see that now I must grow 2.5 million to get to next level. Now Outwar staff, I see that you want people work harder and longer on the game and on ones account but you shouldn't make it so that our exp limit is basically doubled.

I grow 10k a day. Back before the update I needed 100 days to level. Now it takes me 250 days. I view that as somewhat unfair. Making me wait longer and work harder to achieve something that would have been somewhat more reasonably easier on the old system seem much more of a fair system. Especially compared to what we are offered now.

What I am asking is that you bring it back to the old limits or look at these new limits and reconsider them. I ask of you.

-Xplay

how the hell u get 10k a day?? my multies grow more then 10k a day

slozon
12-08-2008, 01:57 PM
Thats still over a month of hard dcing which is pretty hard when you have other stuff to do. Plus, on top of that lvls 56-59 recieved an ungodly amount of free exp while anyone under 50 got the short end of the deal. its ironic, i can get 50k a day with my new items and i couldve leveled once a week under the old system but now i have to get quadruple the exp.

stop it that people got cheated out of exp anyone 40+ got alot of free exp from the update

they gave you a free lvl
so if you were 40 before = 2.5 mil exp
then you were 41 after the update which now = 3.5 exp
and if i remember right lvl 60 was and still is 30 mil

Swudeson
12-08-2008, 01:59 PM
Don't forget to check http://sigil.outwar.com/expchart.php

Change your server of course for optimal viewing.

ginabean
12-08-2008, 03:08 PM
There are plenty of ways to grow. Let your crew use you in raids via trustee. Use affliction skills and run the hit list a few times a day.. it doesn't take long.. use masterful looting (maybe a pot) and go DC.. it is quite easy and not too time consuming to do. If you want something badly enough a bit of time is an easy thing to commit. I know ya can do it.

papercut36
12-08-2008, 03:40 PM
just because you cant be on ow x amount of time doesn't mean other people should suffer less growth because your unable to play

qITIp
12-08-2008, 06:00 PM
why the hell do you bump old stuff virus.