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DruiD
01-14-2008, 06:15 PM
Yeah these recaptcha ones are alright, but already have seen 3 crews who obviously are ajing still. To stop this, just simply put the math sec images back up, they will put an end to all that garbage

Egnar
01-14-2008, 06:17 PM
Only thing I hate about these recaptcha ones is that they don't have a shorter letter limit. Sometimes I get stuck with 2 8-9 letter words and sometimes I get 2 3 letter words. It's really a pain in the *bleep*.

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 06:18 PM
Who are aj-ing? o.O

skydragon666
01-14-2008, 06:24 PM
agreed champ lol mb went from Who are they? i thought that was a multi crew?
2 Doing Sigil's Quiver's Ag LOL As If Come on mb

superdudes
01-14-2008, 06:24 PM
I hated the math sec images. Those were terrible. dont bring them back!

bychman
01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
I hated the math sec images. Those were terrible. dont bring them back!

Whats 9-7?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Rampid_Justin
01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
Yeah these recaptcha ones are alright, but already have seen 3 crews who obviously are ajing still. To stop this, just simply put the math sec images back up, they will put an end to all that garbage

If you're referring to the times listed on ow_community.php, that reflects server time issues we were having. When rebooted they would lose their synchronized time. Therefore when you figure out time between spawn and death and the servers are different, the time is off as well.

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
lol wizzy, as if u havent noticed they're is a certain crew who couldnt take a sigil in 4 years and poof now they made a blade. And diablos or whatever the name is.

I was told they were getting help from ex-FW members. Haha.

If you're referring to the times listed on ow_community.php, that reflects server time issues we were having. When rebooted they would lose their synchronized time. Therefore when you figure out time between spawn and death and the servers are different, the time is off as well.

Is there an approximation as to how much the time is off?

Rampid_Justin
01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
Whats 9-7?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

97? Wait.. no.. 3!

DruiD
01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
lol sky, yeah they're one of the main ones I'm talking about. I don't care how bad the math images are, they prevent stuff the best

Rampid_Justin
01-14-2008, 06:32 PM
Is there an approximation as to how much the time is off?

Unfortunately no. It happened to almost all the servers and each was off by different times. They should be all set now though.

Bon3r
01-14-2008, 07:54 PM
the new sec images are ok. i just dont like the fact that most of them have a line going through the word making it harder see what the word actually is/

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 07:57 PM
Agreed. I look at the words sometimes and I'm like "huh?".

Megadeth
01-14-2008, 08:02 PM
Justin, regardless of what time is displayed, these crews never were beating gods, been up for 4 years and never accomplished anything. These new recaptchas come out and suddenly they're the fastest and best crews on the game? C'mon


Maybe because the old arjs dont work, crews actually have a a chance of killing the LF gods now.

sirjohn159
01-14-2008, 08:04 PM
Only a select few have someone who can make an OCR, which is a program that can strip an image and decipher the word. SO yeah it's easily seen how these crews you mention are the only ones with them and therefore makes it easy to see when they are using something. A crew doesn't become anything in 4 years of existance, yet now are quicker than everyone by far? It's just way too obvious

I might be wrong but I believe that each image in recaptcha passed an unable to be ocred test. So crews wouldn't be able to strip the image and decipher the words. That is also why there's like lines through the words and words that are hard to read, because they shouldn't be able to Ocr the words.

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 09:03 PM
Thats what I thought too sirjohn, but I guess some programs have enough sensetivity to pick up the word from all the scribbly stuff. All I know is, Rampid shouldn't have to work this hard just to make the game fair.. all these boring ole cheaters need to just find a different game and leave OW alone :(

Domination
01-14-2008, 09:04 PM
Half the time you only have to type just the first word

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 09:06 PM
That never worked for me :(

Domination
01-14-2008, 09:08 PM
it only happenes from time to time, you can get away with it 4-5 times in a row then it gives you the incorrect error msg. also alot of the time you don't even have to spell the words right.

makavelitehdon
01-14-2008, 09:28 PM
it only happenes from time to time, you can get away with it 4-5 times in a row then it gives you the incorrect error msg. also alot of the time you don't even have to spell the words right.

LoL thats true, most of the time if you type out even half of the first word it works. Couple of time i just typed the first letter of that word and rest the scramble letters and it worked lol

bluedthunder
01-14-2008, 09:31 PM
Take the images off! Programs are fun! Let's see who can make the fastest AJ and then we'll really know who the 'leetest' crew is. =)

Agreed, only if i can join :-"

Shady
01-14-2008, 10:43 PM
I think the sec images are fine the way they are.

PlayaFoSho
01-14-2008, 11:23 PM
Can we atleast get clear words? sometimes it takes me 3 trys to get the right words which is uncalled for. There doing there job by stoping AJ's why not make it a little easy on us?

Domination
01-14-2008, 11:23 PM
I could make the fastest aj so you don't want to do that :)) and nah, the new sec images are junk

They are, but they serve there purpose.

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 11:51 PM
Clear words means easier for programs to decipher it and become a workable AJ *sigh* all this work just to make a game fair. Ridiculous

jeffers1986
01-15-2008, 06:53 AM
You might as well get rid of the sec images altogther, programs are always going to find a way around it, all it does is annoy ppl.

Bloodkitty1st
01-15-2008, 06:57 AM
Random security images have proven most effective against Automated programs, you can never program something to guess a random output, unless you actually hack the internet I guess.

champ
01-15-2008, 08:02 AM
i said and, as in another.


wohoow -_-

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 08:32 AM
Who's the other? o.O

champ
01-15-2008, 08:33 AM
sky allready said it

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 02:43 PM
Jazzmin, Maiden of Vitality Maximus[Brood] 00:01:22
Zertan, The Collector Maximus[Brood] 00:01:20
Now i KNOW you can get it

Bloodkitty1st
01-15-2008, 02:46 PM
I think this is going off the topic of Security images. :(

Anyhoo, if a new security word system were to be included, how should it work?
I hate this current one, words that are like 12 letters long just get annoying to type, why not make it a 4-5 digit number that needs to be inputted?

There is plenty of alternatives, and I don't think a program could cover them all.

Domination
01-15-2008, 03:01 PM
I think this is going off the topic of Security images. :(

Anyhoo, if a new security word system were to be included, how should it work?
I hate this current one, words that are like 12 letters long just get annoying to type, why not make it a 4-5 digit number that needs to be inputted?

There is plenty of alternatives, and I don't think a program could cover them all.

I agree long words get old quick, especially if there's more then one, i'd like to a number set up like some of the other games on the net.

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 05:11 PM
Just because one person said something, doesn't mean that they speak for the crew.

LadyDutch
01-15-2008, 05:11 PM
Is it so hard for you to see MB worked hard to stay in OW as one of the oldest crews and still in the top.
True we didnt got sigil before, why ? because we could not win against the aj of some crews. Our raiders could not match the aj.....
Now ow made a great change again (sec image) and aj's dont work anymore. And that great for other crews. They can actualy take gods now if they have active raiders.

And MB does have active raiders
And yes we got some bigger accounts in MB now that makes it easyer also.

So i'm sorry we make some of you feel that you have to make accusations.
But we will not back off, we will keep taking gods. :)

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:12 PM
you guys are just whining cause there more active than you

yea. they sure are mad aren't they.. thats why they cry :(

PaasHaaS
01-15-2008, 05:14 PM
I simply adore these new sec images. Finally no AJs around, giving the honest crews(MB anyone?) finally a fair chance at winning a god.

And to those saying we use an AJ: Thank you. I'll make sure to pass it on to our raiders, it'll be a nice boost to their ego :)

Seriously tho, for every god we got like 6-7 raiders on as a MINIMUM, for quiver that means every raider had 1:20 to join 3 accounts. If you guys think that's cheating, no offense, but go play tetris then.

Keep these sec images, it finally shows who can still raid without there precious aj.

EDIT: Wizzy, we know that. They(gerard..) shouldn't mention the crews here but the individuals making certain posts.

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:20 PM
Sky you wanna cry about MB killin a little god in 1 min(but yet its ok for you guys to kill dreg in 6mins) that includes skilling and pot casting.. Get real!

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 05:31 PM
Funny. If MB starts beating those gods right when the sec images came out, then it would be believable that you are active, but could not be the supposed AJs. However this is not the case, it's after two months of the sec image existence that you guys started beating them. Hmmm, little fishy?

But to topic...I'm pretty sure the bottom line is that, there should be a newer version of sec image system. Such as easier to read/type words and have sometime of image changing plan, to add variety into the sec images, such as a mix of click double words, solve math problem and the current one. This should throw those supposed AJs off balance...for a little while anyways, lol.

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:33 PM
Funny. If MB starts beating those gods right when the sec images came out, then it would be believable that you are active, but could not be the supposed AJs. However this is not the case, it's after two months of the sec image existence that you guys started beating them. Hmmm, little fishy?

But to topic...I'm pretty sure the bottom line is that, there should be a newer version of sec image system. Such as easier to read/type words and have sometime of image changing plan, to add variety into the sec images, such as a mix of click double words, solve math problem and the current one. This should throw those supposed AJs off balance...for a little while anyways, lol.

the only thing fishy is you guys always cry about another crew beating you.. and yea go ahead place more sec images in.. we have enough raiders to work through them too..

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 05:33 PM
Funny. If MB starts beating those gods right when the sec images came out, then it would be believable that you are active, but could not be the supposed AJs. However this is not the case, it's after two months of the sec image existence that you guys started beating them. Hmmm, little fishy?

But to topic...I'm pretty sure the bottom line is that, there should be a newer version of sec image system. Such as easier to read/type words and have sometime of image changing plan, to add variety into the sec images, such as a mix of click double words, solve math problem and the current one. This should throw those supposed AJs off balance...for a little while anyways, lol.

...until they combine 'em all into one ^_^

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:35 PM
why is it always to "programmers" on Ow that are the first to cry about another crew.. is it because you need your "aj" to even win a damn thing

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 05:35 PM
Sky you wanna cry about MB killin a little god in 1 min(but yet its ok for you guys to kill dreg in 6mins) that includes skilling and pot casting.. Get real!

^sounds like crying to me

the only thing fishy is you guys always cry about another crew beating you.. and yea go ahead place more sec images in.. we have enough raiders to work through them too..

Welcome to OutHypocrite!

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:37 PM
^sounds like crying to me



Welcome to OutHypocrite!

thats no cryin involved.. or speakin the truth hurts to you??

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 05:38 PM
Now now kids, be nice.

PaasHaaS
01-15-2008, 05:39 PM
Now now kids, be nice.

Or not.. That way we can make some money taking bets.

Sensational
01-15-2008, 05:39 PM
change sec images and see if MB can take the gods that fast again?
or they might not do it for a couple of weeks before their aj is updated.. lol.

Gamer
01-15-2008, 05:41 PM
Funny. If MB starts beating those gods right when the sec images came out, then it would be believable that you are active, but could not be the supposed AJs. However this is not the case, it's after two months of the sec image existence that you guys started beating them. Hmmm, little fishy?

But to topic...I'm pretty sure the bottom line is that, there should be a newer version of sec image system. Such as easier to read/type words and have sometime of image changing plan, to add variety into the sec images, such as a mix of click double words, solve math problem and the current one. This should throw those supposed AJs off balance...for a little while anyways, lol.

you think you sound smart now eh? but you are wrong, first we werent organised well for months we got that fixed after some of our members got back from retirement. secondly we got some new people in the crew that actually helped and are helping us to get were we are. and now as third thing, since we are performing so well lately we got again new members that make or performance even better. i cant help it if you guys dont have much raiders online but since most of our members are from europe we got much people online during the day.

gerarddeveroveraar
01-15-2008, 05:42 PM
yeah,change images to 4 words orso :o

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:42 PM
change sec images and see if MB can take the gods that fast again?
or they might not do it for a couple of weeks before their aj is updated.. lol.

yea we will still be that fast.. it only take a couple of seconds to figure any sec word\# out.. in less you forgot kindergarten work >.<

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 05:43 PM
why is it always to "programmers" on Ow that are the first to cry about another crew.. is it because you need your "aj" to even win a damn thing

Let's face it, it's not the most active crew that wins, it's the crew with the most programs and cheaters who win. K next!
thats no cryin involved.. or speakin the truth hurts to you??

So does people confronting your AJ truth hurt your little feelings too?
Once again...HYPOCRITE!

Once again, need new more integrated sec images!

Sensational
01-15-2008, 05:43 PM
yea we will still be that fast.. it only take a couple of seconds to figure any sec word\# out.. in less you forgot kindergarten work >.<

unless* i guess you've forgotten already

and it could take you a while to update that aj as i said.

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Debating whether or not MB auto-joins is off topic unless you have concrete proof in which case Outwar would definitely need new images. As for new security words at the moment, I think we're fine as is.

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 05:44 PM
you think you sound smart now eh? but you are wrong, first we werent organised well for months we got that fixed after some of our members got back from retirement. secondly we got some new people in the crew that actually helped and are helping us to get were we are. and now as third thing, since we are performing so well lately we got again new members that make or performance even better. i cant help it if you guys dont have much raiders online but since most of our members are from europe we got much people online during the day.

Typical answer from an AJing crew...come up with something more convincing buddy.

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:45 PM
Let's face it, it's not the most active crew that wins, it's the crew with the most programs and cheaters who win. K next!


So does people confronting your AJ truth hurt your little feelings too?
Once again...HYPOCRITE!

Once again, need new more integrated sec images!

lol my AJ.. haha yea sure ;)

PaasHaaS
01-15-2008, 05:45 PM
Let's face it, it's not the most active crew that wins, it's the crew with the most programs and cheaters who win. K next!


That's a pretty sad thing to say IMO. Considering you're in what I consider the best crew on sigil, so are you calling yourselves the biggest cheaters now ?

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:46 PM
Typical answer from an AJing crew...come up with something more convincing buddy.

typical for an Aj crew huh!... typical for an AJ crew to start cryin that other crews are takin there gods :( boo hoo waaa.. you sound like my 1 yr old son..

Gamer
01-15-2008, 05:46 PM
easy waving such things off eh bluedthunder.

btw congratz with ethans 1st birthday Andy:D

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 05:47 PM
Close the thread!

PaasHaaS
01-15-2008, 05:48 PM
Close the thread!

Couldn't agree more. This will obviously go nowhere :)

Sensational
01-15-2008, 05:48 PM
That's a pretty sad thing to say IMO. Considering you're in what I consider the best crew on sigil, so are you calling yourselves the biggest cheaters now ?

whos won the previous jazz, quiver, zert and sigil? there we go :) only reason you people havent got dreg / nar zhul is because your too weak

Sensational
01-15-2008, 05:49 PM
typical for an Aj crew huh!... typical for an AJ crew to start cryin that other crews are takin there gods :( boo hoo waaa.. you sound like my 1 yr old son..

if your 1 year old son is crying then shouldnt you go see to him rather than arguing on this gaming forum?

Gamer
01-15-2008, 05:49 PM
if your 1 year old son is crying then shouldnt you go see to him rather than arguing on this gaming forum?

maybe he has an wife:P?

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:50 PM
if your 1 year old son is crying then shouldnt you go see to him rather than arguing on this gaming forum?

my son is just fine :) he is eatting some b-day cake!

Gamer
01-15-2008, 05:50 PM
well yust looking to the beaten gods

Bloodchill the Grizzly ~The Fallen Ones~ 00:02:11

for that raid normally people also skill, looks an little suspicious doesnt it?

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 05:51 PM
That's a pretty sad thing to say IMO. Considering you're in what I consider the best crew on sigil, so are you calling yourselves the biggest cheaters now ?

Awww, didn't know you think so highly of us. Maybe we won't be if there's actually competition to the bigger gods? Perhaps MB wants a crack at Dreg Nor?

typical for an Aj crew huh!... typical for an AJ crew to start cryin that other crews are takin there gods :( boo hoo waaa.. you sound like my 1 yr old son..

Can I can a translator please?

easy waving such things off eh bluedthunder.

btw congratz with ethans 1st birthday Andy:D

I don't believe in miracles.

Sensational
01-15-2008, 05:51 PM
my son is just fine :) he is eatting some b-day cake!

lucky him :) but thought you just said he was crying

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:51 PM
well yust looking to the beaten gods

Bloodchill the Grizzly ~The Fallen Ones~ 00:02:11

for that raid normally people also skill, looks an little suspicious doesnt it?

no way.. thats TFO.. TFO dont do anything wrong in the game.. come on now..

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 05:52 PM
Let's change the thread title to Let's Flame and Accuse Each Other of Cheating

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 05:53 PM
no way.. thats TFO.. TFO dont do anything wrong in the game.. come on now..

I once stole a Pokemon card from another Outwar player :(

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:53 PM
lucky him :) but thought you just said he was crying

I said sounds like.. doesn't mean he is sittin there cryin I am a better daddy then that thanks :)

PaasHaaS
01-15-2008, 05:53 PM
I once stole a Pokemon card from another Outwar player :(

OMG. Did he tell his mom ?

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 05:54 PM
Let's change the thread title to Let's Flame and Accuse Each Other of Cheating

isnt that why you are here? and Druid.. and Champ.. and Sky.. seems you are the ones that started

Gamer
01-15-2008, 05:54 PM
pokemon was cool 10 years ago.

bluedthunder
01-15-2008, 05:55 PM
I once stole a Pokemon card from another Outwar player :(

That wouldn't of happened if Outwar has new sec images!
How could you wizzy! Is that way TruDee's son's crying?!
Bend over for a spanking!

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 05:56 PM
/me bends over gladly


Where are all the forum Moderators. This thread should have been closed ages ago.

PaasHaaS
01-15-2008, 05:58 PM
They're out. Looking for their stolen pokemon card.

And who do we have to blame for that :o

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 06:00 PM
Not I!

/me whistles innocently

Domination
01-15-2008, 06:00 PM
i stole the houndoom and scyther pokemon cards from my nephew

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 06:02 PM
i stole the houndoom and scyther pokemon cards from my nephew

ok we are just playin about the pokeman cards... dont bring your personal life into it >.<

Domination
01-15-2008, 06:03 PM
and i just stole his juice box there's some more info for you.

TruDeeMC2
01-15-2008, 06:05 PM
and i just stole his juice box there's some more info for you.

:o thats bad

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 07:56 PM
:-j rofl at some of the posts but agreed We Need NEW sec images

Wizzy
01-15-2008, 07:57 PM
I didn't! :D

skydragon666
01-15-2008, 08:18 PM
your just a fussy wussy w1zzy

Eagleskill
01-15-2008, 08:42 PM
Closed Due to excessive off topic use.