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Magicnick
02-02-2008, 12:34 PM
I wanted to toss a quick note out there about next weeks event, and what to expect in the future.
So, I will be running the onsite events from here on out... I'm going to try and make them as frequent & fun as possible.
I'll be honest, I have been working on the site now for a long time. However, I am not as familiar with our content tools as I would like to be (expessially our new ones).
So, my first event will be somewhat, average. As in, I wont be throwing any curve balls at you just yet :) This event will be the start of many more to come, so, my objective with it, is to make it as successful as possible, and get the ball rolling.
Yes there will be new items.... recipes, potions, quests ect ect...
If you have suggestions for other types of live events that you would like to see run on the site, please submit them in the brainstorm thread. I know there are other ideas that have yet to be explored in this area.
That's it... now back to finishing these quests up.
-=MagicNiCK=-
Egnar
02-02-2008, 12:45 PM
Thata boy, see - Being honest and open with us wasn't so hard now was it!?
I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing a fun even that emphasizes excitement rather then frivolous grinding.
simonrobinson
02-02-2008, 12:50 PM
I wanted to toss a quick note out there about next weeks event, and what to expect in the future.
So, I will be running the onsite events from here on out... I'm going to try and make them as frequent & fun as possible.
I'll be honest, I have been working on the site now for a long time. However, I am not as familiar with our content tools as I would like to be (expessially our new ones).
So, my first event will be somewhat, average. As in, I wont be throwing any curve balls at you just yet :) This event will be the start of many more to come, so, my objective with it, is to make it as successful as possible, and get the ball rolling.
Yes there will be new items.... recipes, potions, quests ect ect...
If you have suggestions for other types of live events that you would like to see run on the site, please submit them in the brainstorm thread. I know there are other ideas that have yet to be explored in this area.
That's it... now back to finishing these quests up.
-=MagicNiCK=-
gogogo mr magic man
Rampid_Misery
02-02-2008, 12:50 PM
I like the thread id.
Egnar
02-02-2008, 12:51 PM
I don't think it's physically possible to do a "669" :-/.
SkatrBill
02-02-2008, 12:53 PM
hmm yeah :) its about time something fun is coming up for us to do :)
Wizzy
02-02-2008, 01:00 PM
I'm hoping for a quest down the road with quite a storyline behind it and is driven by it. That's what I love in games - something interesting that unravels even with a twist.
simonrobinson
02-02-2008, 01:01 PM
I'm hoping for a quest down the road with quite a storyline behind it and is driven by it. That's what I love in games - something interesting that unravels even with a twist.
give them time w1zzy all this takes time
SkatrBill
02-02-2008, 01:03 PM
meh, i hate quests with storylines like that :-P, i want something that i can just fly though and not give a damn what it says :-P... There should be more quests like the zimbobist/fabarists though, that deal with ele resistance... Like maybe 4-5 diffrent classes? meh who knows... Long quests stink though...
I am just hyped up for next week :)... Nick, can you give mabey a link to 1 item? or post stats plz? (i am sure everyone would love you for ever if you did)
Wizzy
02-02-2008, 01:03 PM
You want another token quest Bill? ROFL
give them time w1zzy all this takes time
I know! Lol. It was a suggestion; I don't expect to see it overnight.
simonrobinson
02-02-2008, 01:08 PM
meh, i hate quests with storylines like that :-P, i want something that i can just fly though and not give a damn what it says :-P... There should be more quests like the zimbobist/fabarists though, that deal with ele resistance... Like maybe 4-5 diffrent classes? meh who knows... Long quests stink though...
I am just hyped up for next week :)... Nick, can you give mabey a link to 1 item? or post stats plz? (i am sure everyone would love you for ever if you did)
why would we want to see item it spoils the whoe fun then
Magicnick
02-02-2008, 01:13 PM
I'm hoping for a quest down the road with quite a storyline behind it and is driven by it. That's what I love in games - something interesting that unravels even with a twist.
Ya this is coming... Big Greg is all over it. Just cant be that fast for obvious reasons. I think he is planning on putting up some concept art up here on the forums soon?
simonrobinson
02-02-2008, 01:18 PM
I wanted to toss a quick note out there about next weeks event, and what to expect in the future.
If you have suggestions for other types of live events that you would like to see run on the site, please submit them in the brainstorm thread. I know there are other ideas that have yet to be explored in this area.
That's it... now back to finishing these quests up.
-=MagicNiCK=-
i may possibly of run out of suggestions lol think i posted too many
pbfsgirl
02-02-2008, 01:20 PM
I don't think it's physically possible to do a "669" :-/.
Dunno if it's possible, but as long as I'm the 9 and the 2 6's are two chicks, I'm all about trying!!!!!!!
Eagle23
02-02-2008, 02:45 PM
meh, i hate quests with storylines like that :-P, i want something that i can just fly though and not give a damn what it says :-P... There should be more quests like the zimbobist/fabarists though, that deal with ele resistance... Like maybe 4-5 diffrent classes? meh who knows... Long quests stink though...
I am just hyped up for next week :)... Nick, can you give mabey a link to 1 item? or post stats plz? (i am sure everyone would love you for ever if you did)
Why ruin the surprise. I Don't want to see anything until someone beats the quests/mobs or what ever it is.
Wizzy
02-02-2008, 02:46 PM
I wouldn't mind a sneak preview of the images/pictures ^_^
Firestarter
02-02-2008, 03:13 PM
all i want is those items to be in the slots we need them, cause if i see another head item with fire reisist or a belt with shadow resist they will pretty much suck :(
well, we'll see next week. will the event be released on monday ? :D
Wizzy
02-02-2008, 03:19 PM
They need more boots fo sho!
caShis
02-02-2008, 03:20 PM
definitely, boots is the weakest spot!
Sensational
02-02-2008, 03:21 PM
They need more boots fo sho!
and a good head!
Swudeson
02-02-2008, 03:26 PM
I would go with Neck or Pants! No Stoneraven pants FTW!
Leothedark13
02-02-2008, 03:34 PM
Yeah eye's getting lame now, neck slot is the only 1 without an item with a lot of rage on it =P~
Wizzy
02-02-2008, 03:35 PM
191 rage per turn on the Eye of the Corruptor is alot. What you going on about? lol
Swudeson
02-02-2008, 03:38 PM
Many slots have items with 200+ and 250+ rage eh? :) Boots and Belt are still also weak :(
Wizzy
02-02-2008, 03:44 PM
There's the Mark of Death for the neck :p
Swudeson
02-02-2008, 03:52 PM
There's the Mark of Death for the neck :p
Lol, you mean the neck that's like 5% better than Eye? :p
pbfsgirl
02-02-2008, 06:33 PM
Belt is the worst slot. If you can't get Obliv, the next best is the SR cord...which last I checked are selling for about 100 points on Sigil :))
exdbx
02-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Whatever it is i hope its tradable nothing is more annoying then nontrade items lol, but one things for sure if these items are easy for every player to get there hands on the outwar economy will go right down once again :S
(Fingers crossed for new boots & Belts :P)
ItachiUchiha
02-02-2008, 11:38 PM
Hopefully its not one of those server wide raids like Blackhand, Sandleman, and Fangore. If its anything like the war of zhul, then awesome. I remember having more rage than I could handle then lol. Hopfully it would be that way with exp this time.
---Sigmazeus/BrolyDaLegend
XeoBlade
02-03-2008, 01:49 AM
Forget the items for now.. think about this
Outwar needs like wizzy said, a quest with a story line.. but even more.. an actual plot.
Start with a villain blah blah blah, then in order to finish it all you need to go through different episodes just like a comic book. Each episode will consist of puzzles, quests, and hidden things that will be actually DIFFICULT to solve/find. Such as hiding clues in source codes, hidden links to secret places which are necessary for completing the episode. What you can do is have a set list of prizes and give them out at the end according to how far your account got in the plot.. sorta like how Neopets does their Wars/Plots
madmuis
02-03-2008, 07:35 AM
I like the thread id.
I bet you do :p
blazinazn760
02-03-2008, 08:25 PM
Can we get an Exact date we can expect the new content :D very excited for it
Melenkor
02-03-2008, 10:21 PM
Wow you plan on doing this often? I'm excited, even if it's only mediocre material at first. Anything to help mix up the gameplay that's been the same for too long.
I'm looking forward to it, and I might just come back to playing if it happens often :)
i wonder when during the week we will see this, i was hoping more for zhul coming back as that was always gonna plz the masses of people, lets just hope what is added aint a huge let down
SkatrBill
02-04-2008, 01:28 AM
well, i hope its good :) ow hasn't let us down, until last halloweens quest, although pumpkin gods are hawt, but also with the christmas quest too... so who knows : /, all we can do now is wait for them to add the mobs :)
ginabean
02-04-2008, 03:31 AM
Never any such thing as an -exact- date, just hang in there and be patient guys and gals.
PurePwnageTupac
02-04-2008, 03:40 AM
how about implementing more normal dc mobs for the higher levels...no one likes hitting in stizzy anymore...not to mention up the stats of the items that drop from them...i dont think even level 10s use 140 hp boots
simonrobinson
02-04-2008, 04:50 AM
personally i say just wait i like the fact that its snippits of imformation too much takes the excitement away
pimpa
02-04-2008, 08:19 AM
wth hec you manage to post on forums but cant run ya account through raven :-" poor lol :P go kill the cable guy before you miss these new quests!!!!
JGeatsU
02-04-2008, 12:26 PM
hmm content... when will it be out today or this sunday
Rampid_Justin
02-04-2008, 12:56 PM
Can we get an Exact date we can expect the new content :D very excited for it
Starting somewhere between Monday and Friday. :D
Egnar
02-04-2008, 03:29 PM
Notice how this updated calender of events doesn't list specific dates. Considering next week can be interpreted very. . .loosely :(.
Sensational
02-04-2008, 04:59 PM
do it friday!
medman
02-04-2008, 05:54 PM
lol i'm completely shocked that the event would wait ot launch until after TFO gets unsuspended
Slim9092
02-04-2008, 06:16 PM
So..... that means monday right! If not *Shakes Fist*
jeffers1986
02-04-2008, 07:01 PM
What? Theyre really going to wait for TFO to get unsuspended? I really hope thats not true. Why should they get special treatment, if it were some no name crew then they wouldnt wait. Then again if it were some no name crew they would probably never be unsuspended anyway...
dont believe everything u read, they will release it when its finished
Wizzy
02-04-2008, 07:04 PM
That isn't true. LOL. If it is delayed for some reason until we get unsuspended, that'd be pure coincidence.
Egnar
02-04-2008, 07:15 PM
Well, even so, as much as I hate to see people cheating I'm glad to see Rampid has stemmed away from the old "if you do anything wrong - permanent ban" philosophy.
taufighter
02-05-2008, 01:12 PM
meh all i know is ow is gettin boring and i know its not just me that thinks that so nick maybe just hopefully you can spice it up a bit for is make this game interesting something ow lost a long time ago it was fun but now just boring all the same things we need new and fun things so nick do wat ya do man
taufighter
02-05-2008, 01:17 PM
meh ow and their perm ban philosophy............. sure why not lets just suspend ppl who dont need it and not suspend the ppl who do need and and lets give ppl who spend big money imunity
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 01:59 PM
Ya'll need to stick on topic :p
Anyways. The more I think of it, the more I'm leaning towards Friday because, it'd give people a chance to properly take advantage of the "Event" over the weekend since for most they won't have to go to work or school.
Egnar
02-05-2008, 01:59 PM
Didn't stop them last time, Wizzy, and. . If it's really WoZ it's gunna drag on for weeks anyway.
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 02:04 PM
I see they've put this in :-"
http://sigil.outwar.com/warofzhul.php
taufighter
02-05-2008, 02:36 PM
MONDAY(2/4/08 9:00am):Nar Zhuls Minions can be heard in the distance, preparing for battle. Another assault on Diamond City is imminent!
hmmmm and today is wat i think they are a day behind lettin ppl know wats goin on just like ow jeeze
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 02:37 PM
9am kinda passed if anyone failed to notice that. lol.
Egnar
02-05-2008, 02:38 PM
MONDAY(2/4/08 9:00am):Nar Zhuls Minions can be heard in the distance, preparing for battle. Another assault on Diamond City is imminent!
all it says is they're in the distance, nothing more.
Bosma2
02-05-2008, 03:17 PM
all it says is they're in the distance, nothing more.
There comeing closer :o
Pwner
02-05-2008, 03:31 PM
u should be able to make the old items also if u want (for rancid or people that missed the 1st time)
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Some of my multis need those old items :( I wanna send em thru Raven. I doubt they'll do that but hey, it doesn't hurt to pray.
simonmaka
02-05-2008, 03:36 PM
For each sectional level there should be a mob boss 10-25 26-45 45-60 60+ with items that are better than usual or special stats like fire damage item for 26-45 orbs and potions would be nice too
Slim9092
02-05-2008, 04:09 PM
I'd assume its just WoZ with upgraded items, since Nick said there would be new items etc.. etc..
At least its a chance for me to get another Zhul Essence
papercut36
02-05-2008, 04:46 PM
I hope the drop rates arnt uber low and the rage cost not uber high.
exdbx
02-05-2008, 04:52 PM
i hope theres a chance for not only crew members, but individuals to get themselves essences too
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 04:54 PM
There is. The top 5, I believe, persons of most shard turn-ins get Zhulian Essences as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Swudeson
02-05-2008, 04:55 PM
There is. The top 5, I believe, persons of most shard turn-ins get Zhulian Essences as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.
That's what it was last time, but who knows, this time may have a completely set of new rules!
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 04:56 PM
A new set of rules with, apparently, the same interface? That'd be weak. I'm pretty sure it's going to be the same "rules".
Swudeson
02-05-2008, 04:59 PM
A new set of rules with, apparently, the same interface? That'd be weak. I'm pretty sure it's going to be the same "rules".
Ok, so I worded it wrong :p I meant that they may change things such as the amount of people who get the essences from shards, you were right with it being the top 5 last time. They may change it to top 3, or top 7- who knows. I wish they would install a leaderboard though. A ranking system to view who has turned in many shards. But perhaps people would just neg accounts to stop them from getting shards- it would be an interesting idea.
I can't wait to see what they have in store for us. Hopefully a bunch of new items :)
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 05:02 PM
Negging someone would consume time which one could've spent trying to out-DC them in shards. lol. No one in their right mind would do that unless they had a means of doing both at the same time.
Swudeson
02-05-2008, 05:04 PM
Negging someone would consume time which one could've spent trying to out-DC them in shards. lol. No one in their right mind would do that unless they had a means of doing both at the same time.
My favorite idea master would!
schietstoel
02-05-2008, 05:05 PM
But perhaps people would just neg accounts to stop them from getting shards
negs are there to be purified..
anyway a ranking page would be hot, expecialy when im on top of it xD
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 05:06 PM
My favorite idea master would!
Maybe it's just me but that doesn't make any sense lol.
snake
02-05-2008, 05:08 PM
A new set of rules with, apparently, the same interface? That'd be weak. I'm pretty sure it's going to be the same "rules".
i hope there is a little twist to it like different item slots
schietstoel
02-05-2008, 05:10 PM
btw, last time we had woz they launched sr after it. can we expect something like a new sr aswell ?
Swudeson
02-05-2008, 05:11 PM
Maybe it's just me but that doesn't make any sense lol.
*cough* hec *cough* He's the master at mulit tasking lol! Posting in forums while growing 700k a day? Brilliant!
And I hope for a cool pants drop or another belt better than the severed heads ;)
exdbx
02-05-2008, 05:17 PM
New boots! or head item.
Swudeson
02-05-2008, 05:20 PM
I would imagine boots, pants, and a neck would be the candidates for some decent items forged by the cauldron this time around!
snake
02-05-2008, 05:21 PM
*cough* hec *cough* He's the master at mulit tasking lol! Posting in forums while growing 700k a day? Brilliant!
And I hope for a cool pants drop or another belt better than the severed heads ;)
thats easy with doing 2 sr runs daily what they do that is 200k just from quests and about 40k from exp he gets so about 450k and with daily grind and totem can do about 100k dc a hour in sr
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 05:30 PM
Hmm. Why ya'll said sounds probable. Maybe they will add in a new SR-Expansion at the end of WoZ in which we'll have to used these, hopefully, new items.
schietstoel
02-05-2008, 05:32 PM
hopefully, sr only use fire and shadow raids, would be fun to have some holy, kinetic or even arcane raids :)
bigtrav26
02-05-2008, 05:33 PM
I would imagine boots, pants, and a neck would be the candidates for some decent items forged by the cauldron this time around!
Holy and Kin resist FTW!
skippidy99
02-05-2008, 06:12 PM
- MONDAY(2/4/08 9:00am):Nar Zhuls Minions can be heard in the distance, preparing for battle. Another assault on Diamond City is imminent!
What did they do? Stop and sight see or grab an all you can eat meal for thousands?
JGeatsU
02-05-2008, 06:13 PM
gah where is this woz bah ow
schietstoel
02-05-2008, 06:19 PM
they are too afraid of us, they know they will lose this war xD
skippidy99
02-05-2008, 06:21 PM
they are too afraid of us, they know they will lose this war xD
By now shouldn't they be approaching over the hill or are they on water break #592837492 since they are the remains of the ones who got away last year.
Eagle23
02-05-2008, 06:27 PM
u guys didnt hear? The patriots lost so we dont get WOZ...
skippidy99
02-05-2008, 06:29 PM
u guys didnt hear? The patriots lost so we dont get WOZ...
Oh man. Glad I was rootin' for the Giants then! Go G-Men!
JGeatsU
02-05-2008, 06:36 PM
come on ow brign them in
Mussy
02-05-2008, 06:46 PM
lol ... why does this seem familiar? .. no1 filling us in :(
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 07:13 PM
What's the fun in knowing before hand? :p
JGeatsU
02-05-2008, 07:17 PM
i have a feeling if there not hear by 8-9 then we wotn see them till tommaro
kingmultis1_20
02-05-2008, 07:20 PM
we won't. people on zim SB claim to have seen them buyt their not here yet IMO
Hairyrasal
02-05-2008, 07:21 PM
^^ lawl, jokes
JGeatsU
02-05-2008, 07:27 PM
like i said if ther enot har by 9 then we wotn see them till tomamro some time.
medman
02-05-2008, 07:29 PM
like i said if ther enot har by 9 then we wotn see them till tomamro some time.
thats good news, house comes on at 9 and i dont miss house episodes
Slim9092
02-05-2008, 07:30 PM
Most people who claim to have seen them in SB are usually Bsing, they usually say there in some ridiculous place, and when you go there, theres nothing. Chances are it'll be tommorow, it seems like its already too late for it to release today.
Hairyrasal
02-05-2008, 07:31 PM
lawl, yeah theyre just saying it to see whos actually dumb enough to walk themself there
JGeatsU
02-05-2008, 07:32 PM
no right now there testing. it to make shure it works live reaosn bar keep comming and goign if not dony by 8-9 then accpt it tomamro some time
kingmultis1_20
02-05-2008, 07:36 PM
lawl, yeah theyre just saying it to see whos actually dumb enough to walk themself there
id say 90% of mains don't 'walk' anymore through dc, too many people with dcaa's
Hairyrasal
02-05-2008, 07:39 PM
ya, and rampid's supposedly suspending all the people who use DCAA and automated programs, so I'm sure they're gonna have fun suspending 95% of the players and losing a major profit
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Which sources are you getting this from?
Dark_Dragon_311
02-05-2008, 07:46 PM
makes me glad that i'm a legit player and not a dcaa user.
kingmultis1_20
02-05-2008, 07:55 PM
ya, and rampid's supposedly suspending all the people who use DCAA and automated programs, so I'm sure they're gonna have fun suspending 95% of the players and losing a major profityes they can suspend, with proof of use. they can't (well shouldn't) suspend based on suspicion(sp?). If you join #ztb or almost any crew chat and ask for a link, anyone at any given time can give you it which means the obviously frequent the site. Even if someone posts on SB 'I USE A DCAA', thats still not PROOF that they do, its could be someone just getting a laugh in. Unless admins can physically see someones desktop, they can't really proove it IMO.
Deathbringerxxx
02-05-2008, 07:57 PM
In my opinion, they can do whatever they want. It's not against the law. They just don't ban people because they're nice.
kingmultis1_20
02-05-2008, 08:00 PM
In my opinion, they can do whatever they want. It's not against the law. They just don't ban people because they're nice.Yep, its stupid. Some mods i know and even head mods i know that DO use it, won't be punished, yet someone else could get suspended. Its stupid really.
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 08:02 PM
In my opinion, they can do whatever they want. It's not against the law. They just don't ban people because they're nice.
If they did do whatever they want which they can, they'd lose alot of customers if they make the wrong choices. It's in their best interests to please us and do so FAIRLY. If they can't decide on a fair way or full-proof way to do it then that's just too bad =(
exdbx
02-05-2008, 09:15 PM
Nuff of this dcaa bs, its about Woz and yes admins are nice enough to warn people who use them once again which probably means they have implemented something that might make it so they can detect "auto programs" obviously they wont go and say now we can detect programs so don't use them, they give a simple reminder.
Honestly so just relax about the whole dcaa stuff, this thread is about the coming event. Which i know i am surely looking forward towards.
Dark_Dragon_311
02-05-2008, 09:17 PM
we should be getting that "official" announcement w/ in 3 days.
/me crosses fingers
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 09:31 PM
Where are people getting these times from? LOL. I'm the only one in the dark. First I heard it was by 9pm tonight then I hear its sure tomorrow, then I hear on Friday - I guess people are anxious :p
Sparda1234
02-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Where are people getting these times from? LOL. I'm the only one in the dark. First I heard it was by 9pm tonight then I hear its sure tomorrow, then I hear on Friday - I guess people are anxious :p
lol people just like to guess :p i guess :o
note to self - stop hitting edit button insted of quote....
Dark_Dragon_311
02-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Where are people getting these times from? LOL. I'm the only one in the dark. First I heard it was by 9pm tonight then I hear its sure tomorrow, then I hear on Friday - I guess people are anxious :p
it was mentioned earlier that it was gonna be mentioned w/ in the week. today's Tuesday; we still have Wed, Thurs, and Fri to wait for the announcement.
Wizzy
02-05-2008, 10:02 PM
Yeah I read that but I was wondering because people were giving specific days and stuff :p
Dark_Dragon_311
02-05-2008, 10:06 PM
i see y people were saying something about it starting on Mon. at 9 pm:
- MONDAY(2/4/08 9:00am):Nar Zhuls Minions can be heard in the distance, preparing for battle. Another assault on Diamond City is imminent!
it shows that when u click on the Zhul Icon
Egnar
02-05-2008, 11:07 PM
All that really implies, though, is that on Monday they gathered there troops. It's just a means of saying get ready.
kingmultis1_20
02-05-2008, 11:21 PM
If I had to make an 'educated guess' of when it will be released, i'd say tomorrow, due to the fact it was meant to be a surprise, so if its a surprise I doubt they would release it long before its up. Its probably all done and coded, now just to load the mobs and go from there. Tomorrow would be realistic, although if its an extra day or 2, who really cares.
darkpoey
02-05-2008, 11:32 PM
If i remember correctly, after the icon showed, it took another 2 days for it to launch? Unsure
Swudeson
02-05-2008, 11:41 PM
Hopefully tomorrow :) That would be cool with me :)
CourageOW
02-06-2008, 03:09 AM
well it better cause i'm really getting bored :/
i just hope i'll get to make an item this time...
LuckyLuciano99
02-06-2008, 03:28 AM
If i remember correctly, after the icon showed, it took another 2 days for it to launch? Unsure
it did take 2 days your right... but theres always hope for a tomorrow launch
MussyModz0r
02-06-2008, 06:30 AM
theres a chance they might release it 12pm ow time like they did last time...
Slim9092
02-06-2008, 09:52 AM
Its probally launching sometime today? Wednesday is mid week just seems like a good day to launch it XD
i cant wait anymoreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, nobody cannnnnnnnnnnn just launch that war, Nick ur one click away..press it...YOU CAN DO IT!!!! i belive in you do it now
Rampid_Justin
02-06-2008, 02:55 PM
It's not ready.
Swudeson
02-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Do you think it will be ready by Friday?
Rampid_Justin
02-06-2008, 03:03 PM
I don't know how much detail Nick wants to release, but I'd guess yes.
Swudeson
02-06-2008, 03:08 PM
Dang, sounds like you are in the dark about the release as much as we are :( Get Nick on here :p
JGeatsU
02-06-2008, 03:10 PM
Justin could be throwing us off, like Pure did [a while ago]. [It] could come out today.
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