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Domination
01-14-2008, 06:02 PM
I think the war system should be changed so multiple crews can war at the same time.
(loyality and illusion are non-castable during wars)
like this

(example taken from sigil)

empire vs MB
diablos... TFO
CH......... DP
PT.......... JD

two teams of four, two teams of two. or two on one

snyper816
01-14-2008, 06:05 PM
idc how they do it, as long as it works well, i liked the old idea they just removed it

weasle252
01-14-2008, 06:39 PM
this wud be a good thing it betta thn crw hlin 1 crew 4 a war but if they had the war back u can donate points/gods/ect ect

Egnar
01-14-2008, 06:43 PM
I think crews need a War Roster. Basically, your crew has lets say 40 slots in its roster. It's up to the crew leader to manage those spots with the best players. When a war is declared no skills can be cast on players from either crew with players outside of that roster. I think the downfall of wars was that everyone and there mother had 100 multis for every skill basically negating the point.

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 06:45 PM
Egnar is just shooting out the ideas tonight.

a roster would 100% be a great idea, you could even limit these roster slots to accounts rather than characters, thus eliminating the use of powered multi's in the raids.

this could be a really good feature.

Egnar
01-14-2008, 06:46 PM
Well ya know, I have months worth of ideas piling up that I couldn't share.

And at one time the brainstorm forums were my domain! :)

Champion_
01-14-2008, 06:47 PM
thing about casting the skills though.. then you cant have raids???? like how can you take sigil and better with no bfa,fort,emp,sth,bl,enf,tome and what not

Egnar
01-14-2008, 06:48 PM
BFA/Fort/Tome are uneffected.

Sigil is hardly a problem with just these 3 skills considering the power of some players. And frankly, for the integrity of the War system I think it's needed. Entering a war is your choice.

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 06:49 PM
thing about casting the skills though.. then you cant have raids???? like how can you take sigil and better with no bfa,fort,emp,sth,bl,enf,tome and what not

I'd imagine during a war, you'd be more focused on destroying the other crew, than raiding guardians to get drops you've gotten a million times before.

this would also mean top war dominating crews wouldn't spend time taking gods, other players are trying to take.

(it would also mean SSS and RA, would stop bickering on Zimbob ;))

Domination
01-14-2008, 06:49 PM
I think crews need a War Roster. Basically, your crew has lets say 40 slots in its roster. It's up to the crew leader to manage those spots with the best players. When a war is declared no skills can be cast on players from either crew with players outside of that roster. I think the downfall of wars was that everyone and there mother had 100 multis for every skill basically negating the point.

I like that idea alot.


thing about casting the skills though.. then you cant have raids???? like how can you take sigil and better with no bfa,fort,emp,sth,bl,enf,tome and what not

It would be a 3 day vacation from raiding during a war then.

Egnar
01-14-2008, 06:52 PM
Frankly, if a decent War system came out and preventitive measures were put into place Wars could be a new mechanic 'instead' of raiding.

Lets assume we found a way to prevent:
1) Losing wars on purpose
2) Warings against multi crews
3) any other abuse

We could make it so that wars give crews "war points" which can be spent on war equipment which would focus on Max Rage/+ attack and Rampage.

Champion_
01-14-2008, 06:53 PM
ya or ow regulate the wars and have to approve it before they do ... cant be that hard to check whose warring.. like 2 minutes at max?

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 06:55 PM
We could make it so that wars give crews "war points" which can be spent on war equipment which would focus on Max Rage/+ attack and Rampage.


hmm, seems alot like honour from WoW :P.
But again, you might wanna slow down with these awesome ideas.

combustion has been known to happen through over-working of the brain ;)

Egnar
01-14-2008, 06:57 PM
I did play WoW for 2 years, though, honestly - - It just makes sense to make people want to go to war.

Domination
01-14-2008, 06:58 PM
No ones wants to war on this game anymore to the fear of losing to much exp.

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 07:00 PM
I for one, would love to go on wars again.
the days of making sure I was on OW enough just to keep a few points ahead of my competitors was great, I didn't mind too much with the EXP loss, it could be made up with DC'ing within a few days anyway.

DANKFIRE
01-14-2008, 07:23 PM
Ive been playing outwar for many years and i can safely say taking away the war/mastery has basically ruined what i thought outwar was all about. i mean its outWAR i thought the goal was raid gods and gain xp so u could woop arse in wars. and mastery was just a way to flaunt that.

now ppl have no choice its like u can raid or u can do nothing lol.

BRING BACK WAR OR CHANGE THE NAME OF THE GAME!

bluedthunder
01-14-2008, 07:51 PM
Ive been playing outwar for many years and i can safely say taking away the war/mastery has basically ruined what i thought outwar was all about. i mean its outWAR i thought the goal was raid gods and gain xp so u could woop arse in wars. and mastery was just a way to flaunt that.

now ppl have no choice its like u can raid or u can do nothing lol.

BRING BACK WAR OR CHANGE THE NAME OF THE GAME!

^^100% agree with that, outwar is boring without some crew to crew destructive, where everyone's pretty much exp *****s.

The war obviously cannot have illusion/loyalty or even totems. That way it's the more active crew that wins, not the crew that has the most points to buy totems and such. To make war inevitable, maybe bring back the old territory system, where a crew must war against others to gain territorial stat bonuses.

BRING BACK THE FUN!
KILL THE EXP *****S AND PANZIES!

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 07:55 PM
bluedthunder r0x my s0x! :-*

Domination
01-14-2008, 07:58 PM
I'd love to see territories again and speaking of roxing sox


bluedthunder 1/14/2008 3:20pm Win
W1ZZY 1/14/2008 3:20pm Win


...jerks :P

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:03 PM
...Oops? :D

deadlyrebel3629
01-14-2008, 08:07 PM
I think crews need a War Roster. Basically, your crew has lets say 40 slots in its roster. It's up to the crew leader to manage those spots with the best players. When a war is declared no skills can be cast on players from either crew with players outside of that roster. I think the downfall of wars was that everyone and there mother had 100 multis for every skill basically negating the point.

I agree to the fullest with this idea. A 40-60 person roster would be nice.

MothaFocker
01-14-2008, 08:11 PM
I dont care how they upgrade the war system they just need to put it back intot he game because this is outWAR and its turning into outRaid.


Somethign I do suggest is re adding the Crew Raids Crew vs Crew into wars.

Domination
01-14-2008, 08:15 PM
If they re-add a war system back into ow, it has to be upgraded the last one died out and really no one warred at all. I like to see the war roster idea added or even the multiple crew warring. like 4 on 4 war would be alot of fun

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:16 PM
Yeah it would. oooo I would get sooo many defends in a war hahaha.

Domination
01-14-2008, 08:17 PM
alot of successful attacks to, -drools- alot of exp stripped

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:20 PM
With no exp locks or level locks...mmmmm p00nage!

Domination
01-14-2008, 08:21 PM
With no exp locks or level locks...mmmmm p00nage!

http://th117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/VelocityGirl72/TV/th_homerdrools.jpg ...omg

bluedthunder
01-14-2008, 08:23 PM
I dont care how they upgrade the war system they just need to put it back intot he game because this is outWAR and its turning into outRaid.

Somethign I do suggest is re adding the Crew Raids Crew vs Crew into wars.

not only just outRaid, but outDCAA!

If they re-add a war system back into ow, it has to be upgraded the last one died out and really no one warred at all. I like to see the war roster idea added or even the multiple crew warring. like 4 on 4 war would be alot of fun

So they should add something that makes the crew have no choice but to war, such as the territory system or something like when a crew proposes war, the opposing must accept or their crew get some type of negative bonus(like the Shame Skill) or all members lose 100k exp for declining war. ^_^

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:24 PM
bluedy...you're so...nauuuugghttyyyyy =P~

Domination
01-14-2008, 08:25 PM
not only just outRaid, but outDCAA!



So they should add something that makes the crew have no choice but to war, such as the territory system or something like when a crew proposes war, the opposing must accept or their crew get some type of negative bonus(like the Shame Skill) or all members lose 100k exp for declining war. ^_^

or both crews have to agree on the surrender

bluedthunder
01-14-2008, 08:25 PM
http://th117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/VelocityGirl72/TV/th_homerdrools.jpg ...omg

You just can't add something Homer drools over! It's just not right!


/me touches wizzy =p~

deadlyrebel3629
01-14-2008, 08:25 PM
yeah, there should be a penalty for declining a war :P

Domination
01-14-2008, 08:26 PM
You just can't add something Homer drools over! It's just not right!


/me touches wizzy =p~

the thought of how much exp would be stripped from a 4 on 4 war is totally worth a homer drool

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 08:42 PM
Egnars idea of a war roster is genius :)

And.. most of the time, when two real 'teams' 'countries' whatever war, and one denies, the denier(spelling?) is shameful. So maybe for denying a war, the entire crew gets that Shame skill casted on it. Maybe a bit harsh :confused: just thinking

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:48 PM
Not at all.

deadlyrebel3629
01-14-2008, 08:51 PM
Egnars idea of a war roster is genius :)

And.. most of the time, when two real 'teams' 'countries' whatever war, and one denies, the denier(spelling?) is shameful. So maybe for denying a war, the entire crew gets that Shame skill casted on it. Maybe a bit harsh :confused: just thinking


have some sort of punishment on the crew that denies a war proposal is a great idea. Also when a war proposal is give there should be a time limit to which the other crew has to respond within or else it will be automatic deny and the "shame" skill or whatever will be casted on the whole crew.

Domination
01-14-2008, 08:57 PM
I still like the idea of both crews have to agree on the surrender, if one crew wants to surrender, both most agree to it, if not the war continues until time runs out.

deadlyrebel3629
01-14-2008, 09:08 PM
Both crews agreeing on surrender is a good idea, because without this there will be wars then not even last a day which is just pointless.

killamike
01-14-2008, 10:45 PM
this game is called outwar and pretty much when outwar started all you could do was get a lot of good mates make a crew and war people . I think they should bring back wars. Also they should make a special section for if 2 crews agree they can have a cross server war . But if they did that don't make it so you gain any items/pts if you win the war . Because people can cheat and make sure people on zimbob or any other servers are gaining leet items .

sorry if my spelling is bad

Domination
01-14-2008, 10:47 PM
Actually originally this game was ment for your secret link, ....i miss thugbuilders >:\

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 10:49 PM
Ooooo. I remember those days. I was such a newbie back then ^_^.

Domination
01-14-2008, 10:50 PM
Ya me too, i thought having 30,000 thugs was 1337 :P i was so proud of my self when i reached 100k

killamike
07-29-2009, 03:53 PM
I love how admin never answer any post about wars !! when there are millions of them open your fawking eyes!!

meowzor
07-29-2009, 05:00 PM
have some sort of punishment on the crew that denies a war proposal is a great idea. Also when a war proposal is give there should be a time limit to which the other crew has to respond within or else it will be automatic deny and the "shame" skill or whatever will be casted on the whole crew.

What if a big crew wages war on a nub crew do they get the shame buff or how does that work?

malifisto
07-29-2009, 09:35 PM
what about something seprate from crews.
team warring
4 seperate teams you randomly join one.
and all 4 teams get ranked on total xp gain
this needs to be 1 for 1 100xp stripped 100 xp gained
wars are ranked every month.
targets need to be incognito. enemy players need to be on a list but not named.
this will remove hassle from attacks.

this type of system will put all those who want to war together and should only be active accounts. Should ensure even teams and no hard feelings between fellow crew members.

every month there should be rewards for winning team and teams should reset every month