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snyper816
01-14-2008, 06:01 PM
outwar should make a new set based on the cauldron. i think it should work something like this...

you mix 1 of every one of the items of a slot from crew set raids in the cauldron and get a new item.

for example-

mix:
flail of cobalt
piano wire of gangland
octave machine gun
guitar of symphony
government issued .45
sword of the elements
obsidian dagger of decay
noc sword of shadows
destructive rocket launcher


and get, a new weapon with better stats than dest considering dest if the current best crew raid set

chnseboi35
01-14-2008, 06:06 PM
I like it. It'll bring back the value of the preceding sets that are considered "too weak".
It'll also help the lower level crews become stronger because they could trade low level set items for higher set items and vice versa.
You know what I mean right? Think about it.

bychman
01-14-2008, 06:09 PM
The idea is good, but would readily be abused by multis. Prolly just make the problem worse.

snyper816
01-14-2008, 06:11 PM
I like it. It'll bring back the value of the preceding sets that are considered "too weak".
It'll also help the lower level crews become stronger because they could trade low level set items for higher set items and vice versa.
You know what I mean right? Think about it.

exactly, it will work well for stronger crews as well, they can replace their crew members noc and dest sets with this new set

Bloodkitty1st
01-14-2008, 06:13 PM
But again, you could add a level limit to the weapons. perhaps a level requirement of 40.
say all of the weapons would mix into;

"Halbard of the Rainbow"
+115 atk
+15 Fire
+15 arcane
+15 kinetic
+85 rage
+70 exp
+12% rampage
+600 Max Rage
+7% Critical Hit
[] [] []

bychman
01-14-2008, 06:13 PM
Perfect for mine and everyone elses multis.

snyper816
01-14-2008, 06:18 PM
Perfect for mine and everyone elses multis.

not that many multi crews can raid dest anyway id say and also who wants to raid or pay for 8/8/8/8/8 of every set for one set for a multi?

bychman
01-14-2008, 06:20 PM
not that many multi crews can raid dest anyway id say and also who wants to raid or pay for 8/8/8/8/8 of every set for one set for a multi?

Lol, you know how easy it is to raid destruction in any of the staple crews? They could easily pimp out multis just so they could own gods even easier. Which is EXACTLY what any smart leader of a crew would do.

snyper816
01-14-2008, 06:21 PM
But again, you could add a level limit to the weapons. perhaps a level requirement of 40.
say all of the weapons would mix into;

"Halbard of the Rainbow"
+115 atk
+15 Fire
+15 arcane
+15 kinetic
+85 rage
+70 exp
+12% rampage
+600 Max Rage
+7% Critical Hit
[] [] []


i like the elemental stats, thats a good addition id say... but i think it should be more along the lines of 125 or 130 atk for the weapon and like 190-200 hp for the other items, and also 85 rage and 70 exp is much to high most likely, more like max 60 on each, but of course not every item will have 60 rage and 60 exp...

snyper816
01-14-2008, 06:26 PM
Lol, you know how easy it is to raid destruction in any of the staple crews? They could easily pimp out multis just so they could own gods even easier. Which is EXACTLY what any smart leader of a crew would do.

once again however... no one wants to pay that much for 1 item on a multi or raid that much for 1 item...so it will be hard/expensive to obtain the whole set for a bunch of multis.

for example-

on rancid dest costs about 125 pts and noc is about 75 or so? .... so to buy 1/1/1/1/1 of each set will cost id say about 250 give or take a bit so a whole set(8/8/8/8/8) would cost 2k....i dont know about you... but i wouldnt spend 2k on a multi over my spending it on my main account

PainIsGreat
01-14-2008, 06:28 PM
Or u could mix like a resist potion or something with some items for elemental resist or something...

bychman
01-14-2008, 06:29 PM
PR would just make 60 multis with that crap and they have enough raiders to do it REALLY easy.(thats for rancid) And none, NONE of the other servers would have a problem pimping MULTIPLE full sets of dest/noc/gov every day if they wanted to.

chnseboi35
01-14-2008, 06:30 PM
Or u could mix like a resist potion or something with some items for elemental resist or something...

I like that idea. I think you should be able to do that to any item. This would raise the price value for the current SR/elemental resistance items and also raise the price value of potions.

bakwal
01-14-2008, 06:35 PM
How about this?

Maybe you can have a Base Item, and then use the couldron to mix it with other stuffs till you get what you want. So the Couldron will have two parts, one part is where you put the base stuff, and the other part is where you put in the engredients. Basically, you cannot get the engredients back once the process is done. but the cooking/mixing/boiling can be undone to retrieve back your stuff if you dont like the outcome.

Let say my base stuff is Bloodsoaked Legplates coz i have the crit augs there that made it 17crit, and pretty sexy rage turns of 300+ What i do is put it in the couldron as base stuff, mixed in resistance potions some rage augs or crit augs and the maxrage book from kru coz i wanted the MR to be better. So it becomes now bloodsoaked legplates of prestige inheriting 10 to 70% of the stats of what i put as engredients. If i think the stats are gay or just got 10% of the items, i can undo the couldron cooking and redo again with diff engridients

snyper816
01-14-2008, 06:37 PM
PR would just make 60 multis with that crap and they have enough raiders to do it REALLY easy.(thats for rancid) And none, NONE of the other servers would have a problem pimping MULTIPLE full sets of dest/noc/gov every day if they wanted to.

yes, some crews have the power to do this very easy, im not going to argue with you anymore because it is pointless, also yes, some crews will get multis this set, but it will be a much lower rate of this than your making it seem

MothaFocker
01-14-2008, 08:09 PM
Sounds like a good idea it would keep the old raids alive and give people another goal to work twords.

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:13 PM
How about this?

Maybe you can have a Base Item, and then use the couldron to mix it with other stuffs till you get what you want. So the Couldron will have two parts, one part is where you put the base stuff, and the other part is where you put in the engredients. Basically, you cannot get the engredients back once the process is done. but the cooking/mixing/boiling can be undone to retrieve back your stuff if you dont like the outcome.

Let say my base stuff is Bloodsoaked Legplates coz i have the crit augs there that made it 17crit, and pretty sexy rage turns of 300+ What i do is put it in the couldron as base stuff, mixed in resistance potions some rage augs or crit augs and the maxrage book from kru coz i wanted the MR to be better. So it becomes now bloodsoaked legplates of prestige inheriting 10 to 70% of the stats of what i put as engredients. If i think the stats are gay or just got 10% of the items, i can undo the couldron cooking and redo again with diff engridients

Alot of good possibilities you can make there, bakky. ^_^

123rgn123z
01-14-2008, 08:24 PM
Yes, please let Kansai and his horde of multis become even more insanely overpowered!

Wizzy
01-14-2008, 08:27 PM
Yes! Please do! ^_^ Even though I have no idea who you're talking about.

123rgn123z
01-14-2008, 08:33 PM
Yes! Please do! ^_^ Even though I have no idea who you're talking about.


Torax Server-- Search for Disciples of Shadows / Disciples of Light
Kansai is the one who leads those. Now look at the H1-P4 ranks. Many of those are his multis.

chnseboi35
01-14-2008, 08:33 PM
Yes, please let Kansai and his horde of multis become even more insanely overpowered!

Lol. He's talking about DoS on the Torax server.

deadlyrebel3629
01-14-2008, 08:36 PM
i like the idea of combining the weapon of each set. You should also we able to do it for each slot, such as weapon, head, feet etc.etc. By doing this you can get a new set with nice stats and a better bonus for having the whole set :)

Kourtney
01-14-2008, 08:50 PM
Aside from the possible multi abuse, I like this idea :)

*misses proudly wearing full Elem set and feeling all 1337z0rz*

snyper816
01-14-2008, 09:04 PM
i like the idea of combining the weapon of each set. You should also we able to do it for each slot, such as weapon, head, feet etc.etc. By doing this you can get a new set with nice stats and a better bonus for having the whole set :)

thats what i was saying....i just used the weapon for an example

Hairyrasal
01-15-2008, 08:58 PM
Definitely beats having to go from noc/dest to leet gods

snyper816
01-15-2008, 11:57 PM
Definitely beats having to go from noc/dest to leet gods

exactly...even if it is used for multis (get over it people....no matter what OW does there will always be people with lots of multis raiding for stuff like this) it will make it easier for all lower strength crews to get gods if they have a nice set

jZampage
01-16-2008, 12:58 AM
You would still have to obtain Gods if you wanted to be superior... obviously... but the cauldron needs to be utilized more efficiently. It's way to obvious at this point as to what you need it for, there needs to be hidden recipes that release unbelievable items - like combining every piece of SR gear for an elite pair of legs (since that's all that doesn't drop from SR) or at least something. Combining both rings for a leet one, or both boots, or something... I'm not quite sure. But it would cause SR economy to boom again because everyone would want them.

truemetal
01-16-2008, 01:03 AM
I like this idea as well. I mean seriously, who actually raids anything less than gov nowadays?

demonkitty
01-16-2008, 01:21 AM
I agree that the cauldron should be used to make better items out of the lower items to make a better set or item. As long as they find a way to keep it balanced that smaller crews are able to just as effeciently make at least half of the items as a bigger crew can. Obviously some items should be able to be made only if you are big enough to get the nicer items to do so, But I don't think the cauldron should be something else that will only help out that handful of crews that are on every sever that have so much power they really don't have anything to do other than laugh at the little guys and make growing for them difficult by hitting them simply because they can. I have been in top ten and top five crews and it gets boring doing the same raid day in day out so I know why they do what they do. But I have also been in small just starting out crews and know how hard it can be sometimes to get out of the hole so to speak and get to the god raiding. Anything that would be able to give the "underdogs" of outwar a boost to get up to the "leet" ones is welcome in my book. How about some quests that allow us to gather recipes. Maybe even have some drop as a random rare drop? Maybe not have to have these for all the items but maybe for a handful of uber items that may or may not be hard to make. Like I said level the playing field a little bit and let everyone have a chance to get something worth getting again.

snyper816
01-16-2008, 06:37 AM
As long as they find a way to keep it balanced that smaller crews are able to just as effeciently make at least half of the items as a bigger crew can.

another thing is this set will boost the smaller crews as well, because why would a high ranking crew want to raid cobalt, gangland, symphony, octave, gov, or ele when they can do 5 man dest raids no problem? they wouldnt want to raid it...so they would just buy it from smaller crews

Dark_Dragon_311
01-17-2008, 08:13 PM
those are really good ideas. 1 prob though: can't get any type of coal or other accelerant anymore.

Wizzy
01-17-2008, 08:46 PM
That would just be a matter of adding new ones into the treasury.

Domination
01-17-2008, 08:47 PM
That would just be a matter of adding new ones into the treasury.


Or take the "gods" in the treasury and mix them to make a cauldron set?

ginabean
01-18-2008, 04:17 AM
This while abuseable does sound very interesting and might be worth looking into even more I think.

snyper816
01-09-2009, 12:23 AM
coals wouldnt even really be necessary