Omg Pvp!!

[atvoutlaw]

Ok something has got to be done about pvp again. Everyone please tell me if you agree. I don't think a player should be able to kill the same player over and over again. there should be some kind of time limit on killing the same player. This would end gy camping I believe. My biggest pet peave is going to tulorn, stocking up on reagents, running all the way to boulder or mire only to get attacked and lose all the crap you just bought. Now you have to go all the way back to tulorn or dc and stock up on reagents again. Admins I know it takes awhile to find that perfect balance in a pvp game that works, and i hope it is found soon. I'm not spending a dime on points until I can play through the game doing my quests without having to worry about wasting my time running back and forth beacause someone wants to kill you 50 times a night because he likes being a murderer. I am done "whining" now as I'm sure some of you will say that i am. thanks for the vent time, I feel somewhat better.

[Holycannoli]

What makes it even worse is that the murderer doesn't have to go and buy reagents again at that double price that makes no difference, because he uses you as his source. You are the one that has to spend the money.

[elecjester]

Well the problems I see (if I were to play devils advocate) with your suggestion would be:

1. If the murderer cant kill a person for a certain period of time, after they have already been killed, whats to stop that person from attacking the murderer? Then we will have the reds coming here and whining about that problem.

2. Camping is always going to take place, be it at the start of a zone, outside of a town, near a portal, at a graveyard ... nothing we can do about it really.

3. The problem with PvP at the moment is finding a way to keep PvP open, but at the same time trying to punish people that go crazy with it, also while keeping in mind that anything you do to help the whites, could potentially be abused by the reds.

[McSneaky]

I think you all know I PvP and have a lot of PvP kills. Let me put a few things out there to stop the "Red players have it so easy and can kill the same player 100 times in a row" myth.

1. If I kill any player 10+ lvls below me I get a DP(Divine Punishment)

2. If I kill any player between 5-10 lvls below me more than twice in one hour, I get a DP.
(This includes if THEY ATTACK me and cause my pet to kill them)

3. The only way I can "camp" people and kill them multiple times in a one hour time period is if they are 5lvls below me or greater AND attack me first.

4. Being red is NOT easy. 80% of the time you see me I do not have reags I need. Why? B/c someone has hunted me down and killed me. For every time I kill another player, I get killed. Being red is NOT easy.

By no means am I complaining about being red. I love being red. It adds an entire new aspect to the game. What I don't understand is why people complain about it so much. Sure it sucks being killed doing a quest. Try doing something about it. I know for a fact a group of mid 20s and one lvl 36 can take down a lvl 45. How do I know...I organized a group and did it. You can do the same against me. Try it, you mind have fun.

[atvoutlaw]

well buddy i would try taking you one on one but everytime i try that you run away like a chicken sh... yeah you know. Don't stalk someone who's already lost half their health to a mob and kill them, then run when they come at you full health. Take it like a man not a little bit... yeah you know what i mean here too. that's all i'm saying. The pvp can't police itself the way that it is setup right now and needs a major overhaul with everything taken into consideration.

[TehNo0b]

Random graveyard respawns in zones would fix 'camping'. o.O Would be a pain to die in pvp or on a spawn/mobs but... dying is supposed to suck isn't it?

[elecjester]

Random would help vs 1 person...

But really there is only so many GY's per zone, wouldn't be hard to camp still if someone REALLY wanted ya =)

[TehNo0b]

Random would help vs 1 person...

But really there is only so many GY's per zone, wouldn't be hard to camp still if someone REALLY wanted ya =)

If anyone ever really wanted to 'camp' someone their is no way to prevent it.. ever. What this discussion is moreorless about is ways to help ween it down abit. And yeah random spawns would do that.. kthanks ;) Maybe you can post something worthwhile soon.

[DarkBones]

If anyone ever really wanted to 'camp' someone their is no way to prevent it.. ever. What this discussion is moreorless about is ways to help ween it down abit. And yeah random spawns would do that.. kthanks ;) Maybe you can post something worthwhile soon.

Kill timer, just like most other pvp games, that solves it, and very simple to implement for the programmers compared to the other ideas.

[Holycannoli]

We also have recall stones. Set it to Tulorn and at least you can leave the gy in peace.

But where would you go from there?

[elecjester]

If anyone ever really wanted to 'camp' someone their is no way to prevent it.. ever. What this discussion is moreorless about is ways to help ween it down abit. And yeah random spawns would do that.. kthanks ;) Maybe you can post something worthwhile soon.

Maybe I can post something worthwhile?

Do a search on my name, I have posted ALOT of stuff to help this community out.

What have you posted?

Just because I said it's practically impossible to prevent camping, doesn't give you the right to respond like a jerk.

Honestly, I am getting tired of all the two faced whining about PvP in the game. You'll have the same people both condemning and praising the system, depending on if they are the ones killing or being killed at the time.

Your going to die, deal with it. If you really piss someone off, your going to die ALOT. Think before you speak, think before you act.

If your running around killing people left and right, don't be surprised if your hunted down with a vengeance, likewise, if you do nothing but sit on world/trade all day shootin your mouth off, except people to come after you.

Of course, there are always going to be exceptions to the rule where you will get people like sneak or goon that will randomly kill just anyone they come across, but that too is part of the game, don't like it, go hunt them before they hunt you.

Besides, what the heck do you lose if your white, or if bank regularly? ... Nothing but a few reagents ... are you all so broke that you cant afford to replace them? or just kill someone else and take theirs if you really are that broke.

I mean honestly, we have entirely too many threads about this subject and all the same stuff keeps getting said, I think the horse is dead people, move on and wait for the next patch to see what was changed based on our suggestions and then make new suggestions on that.