Trustee Access Busted For Admins

[simonrobinson]

REMOVE TRUSTEE ACCESS AND SOLVE ALOT OF PROBLEMS..
Ok i know alot are gonna flame this thread but ima say it anyway.

First of all why remove trustee access.
well the main issue is it encourages inactivity on outwar and over past months people have slowly been replaced
by auto skillers ect hence no longer needed hence no longetr play.

Below are the major pts of what people use trustee access for.

1-Making splits what happens here is u make for example 8 rgas and trustee 5 accounts to each rga that then gives you
40 accounts in 8 splits of 5 to join into a raid.(hence speed on joining)

2-POTIONS-With a 2 way vault all potions can be added to crew vault then awarded to its members and they no longer need to be online
hence y bother to play (trustee allows all potions to be castable).

3-dcaa- People not only use dcaa as a grower but as an auto mover too. By trusteeing 40 accs to a rga they then add the rga login to dcaa
and they have an auto mover that moves them all over dc when god spawns or easy way of moving ready to camp a god.
hence no longer need members to do it.

4-AUTOSKILLERS-All trustee access means autoskillers are so easy to do, what people do here is make 6 rgas and because skills can be cast via a trustee
these skillers are being used all over outwar.
As i said 6 rgas why u ask well the intelligent crews will have a skiller for each skill hence creating more speed in a raid.
rga1 -empower trustee 40 empowers to the rga make a python script to skill top 40 accounts
rga2 -stealth as above
rga3 -bloodlust as above
rga4 -blessed and fortify- all u do is have top 40 in this rga and it will skill them 1 at time
rga5 -tomes same 40 in seperate rga to run thru and cast tomes
rga6 -potions again a python script will go thru all accounts potions were given to and cast them
So while 1 member has pressed start 6 times 2 members who are online are joining 40 accounts, this will take them 5-8 mins if there slow
by time all 40 are in raid they are all skilled and ready to launch. bam guardian is dead in 8 minutes with 4 people online 5 minutes.

5-NEG skillers again same as above a crew can trustee 200 purifies to 1 rga then make a script to purify the crew if they get negged
same applies to neg skilling a crew all neg skills are castable by trustee.

So to sum all this up what exactly do we need crew members for.. well we dont we only actually need 5 active members in a crew and 35 powerful accounts
to take the bigger gods and we can win them easily.

Because this as been going on for months now people who want to join crews and help raid or skill are no longer needed which
for some players means they cant get better on the game because they have no where to earn items from as all the top crews have replaced
them with auto skillers and auto movers.

so what do they do well they quit or go and play some other game-thats 1 way these skillers ect effect outwar another is it increases inactivity
because the gods can be beat so easily crew members know that aslong as 3-4 people are online they can take these gods without any
hardwork(well unless pressing start 6 times =hardwork).

WHAT WOUD I LIKE TO SEE AFTER MAKING THIS POST;-
Well i would like outwar to put it to a test and to remove trustee access for one month and to see then if gods like varan-ganeshan and ebliss to nar zul
are being beat by crews in 5-8 minutes. i myself believe its gonna be much longer than that. and if sigil n quiver are getting taken in 1 minute.

Trust me im expecting a major backlash from this thread and before u all comment "u seem to know a lot hec" yes ive been playin outwar 6 years
i do know a lot.All i ask is a test one month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN GANESHAN WAS UP 4-5 HOURS NOT 4-5 MINS because crews had to organize and wait for members to come online so they could take it. now its all auto skillers and 2 members online. you are never gonna stop programs being used on outwar i know this but trustee access just makes it too easy. Why are players complaining there bored all the time???? simple the programs kill the god in 5 minutes then they are bored all day long till next god which lasts another few minutes then boredom.. But what if u actually had to organize beating a god again ie 1 member skills empower 1 skills stealth 1 does moving and so on. are u bored now..NO u have something to do

[champ]

If they remove trustees, people will share logins, and nothing will change. Will only have less raiders / people you trust your login to.

They can still automate skilling / moving.

[simonrobinson]

If they remove trustees, people will share logins, and nothing will change. Will only have less raiders / people you trust your login to.

They can still automate skilling / moving.

i knew the share login card would be played they way i see it is outwar as better security in place now and you are not meant to share your login if u do thats your fault

[champ]

i knew the share login card would be played they way i see it is outwar as better security in place now and you are not meant to share your login if u do thats your fault

But they will, else you have to be online 24/7 during dreg timeframe with 40 ppl. And well, I don't see that happening, lol.

[KeithFlint]

idea is good and bad at the same time. only people who would benefit more from your idea are those who have 25 accounts over level 50 or with a decent level on the same rga. this way, it doesn't take 5 people to get a god , but only takes 1, rofl.

[simonrobinson]

idea is good and bad at the same time. only people who would benefit more from your idea are those who have 25 accounts over level 50 or with a decent level on the same rga. this way, it doesn't take 5 people to get a god , but only takes 1, rofl.

25 accs on 1 rga doesnt take sigil nor will it take varan or dreg for example and
the way i see it an active crew with 20 members will be faster than 1 peson joining 25 accs from hes rga as i said the post will get flamed cause lazy ow folk
are gonna cry

[champ]

I'm not lazy at all, but it's unrealistic.

Did you share your login before there was such a thing as trustees?

I sure did, because I like to sleep now and then.

[simonrobinson]

I'm not lazy at all, but it's unrealistic.

Did you share your login before there was such a thing as trustees?

I sure did, because I like to sleep now and then.

your missing my whole pt champ if a crew isnt active enough to take a god then so be it they dont take the god.. dont sit in a crew with 100 members and only 5 who play. take a look at the god page all i see is 5 crews taking gods and all there multi crews. what chance do others have to get better if it stays this way.
let me put it to you this way. without trustee access who wins the god a crew who as active players online lets say 25+ or a crew with a load of power n 2 members. the active crew wins it all the time and hey they didnt have to give login out either.

2 years ago crews had 40+ active members on in chats ready for gods.

[champ]

That's because 2 years ago Outwar had twice as much players, Half quit, 25% went to gey servers, and we're left with 10 to 15 daily players, and about 20 more players who play every now and then.

I do agree with the whole active player should get more gods thing cuz I'd get more ;)

[simonrobinson]

That's because 2 years ago Outwar had twice as much players, Half quit, 25% went to gey servers, and we're left with 10 to 15 daily players, and about 20 more players who play every now and then.

I do agree with the whole active player should get more gods thing cuz I'd get more ;)

and why did they quit and why did they go to other games take a look above lol
the reason-THEY WERE NO LONGER NEEDED IN ANY CREWS- programs replaced them

[champ]

Yup, but you can't undo that by taking away trustees. If they made manually skilling just as easy as pythoning, if not easier, we wouldn't be in this mess.

[simonrobinson]

Yup, but you can't undo that by taking away trustees. If they made manually skilling just as easy as pythoning, if not easier, we wouldn't be in this mess.

i would be happy if they made it so trustee access could only move in dc and join raids IE take away all potion casting and all skill casting.

[champ]

i would be happy if they made it so trustee access could only move in dc and join raids IE take away all potion casting and all skill casting.

Then you'd still need logins for all top 5, top 10, top 20 and top 40 raids.

What they should do is add a button to "Skill this account" with a recaptcha on it.

"skill this account" would be determined by the owner of that account, for instance for my account it would be "lvl 10 bfa, lvl 10 fort, lvl 10 acc strike, lvl 1 tome"

That is un-pythonable as far as i know (lets ask dtpy, the expert).


Trustees was one of outwars good updates, limits the things u can do on other accounts, but just enough to be doing gods. If you take away some features, we would be going back to the sharing login era.

[makavelitehdon]

I dont see a point of removing them. Like champ said it was a good update by ow to stop actuall account logins to be shared in a crew.

Removing trustees cause people create or use skillers with them is not a reason to remove trustess, but suspending people for using skillers etc should be brought up, to punish those who use it.

And hec you noob, what will you do with ur million multies when they stop skillers Lol

[darkpoey]

hmm yeah, people could set up bookmarks with the logins for each member... it would make things slower, but still just raiders doing everything.

anyways, i like champs idea of the "skill this account"

[champ]

Thanks, I stole it off DruiD.

lol, sorry Ron.

[Sparda1234]

And it doesnt stop the skillers, collect everyones RGA's and just have the login to each account and auto skill them... It would slow auto skilling down but it wouldnt prevent it.

Then you are left in an even worce situation because then the crews who would do this would have an even bigger advantage due to other crews who have a chance at winning sigils ect now because of trustees will no longer have that chance. They would also have even less chance at gane ect due to the same reason the skillers would be slower than they are now but still faster than manualy doing it.

[simonrobinson]

I dont see a point of removing them. Like champ said it was a good update by ow to stop actuall account logins to be shared in a crew.

Removing trustees cause people create or use skillers with them is not a reason to remove trustess, but suspending people for using skillers etc should be brought up, to punish those who use it.

And hec you noob, what will you do with ur million multies when they stop skillers Lol

mak i will do as i always do and login and skill folk by hand :) which is how this game was meant to be played not by pressing start and hey presto whole crew is skilled with e/s/l and bfa fort and tome.

like i said all ow have to do is make it so all potions and all skills cant be cast from a trustee but have to be cast from account.. that way u need active members and not multis or inactive players in your crew..

how would it hurt if a player is inactive it dont earn ow anything so no harm in them doing it.

As i quoted try it for 1 month without trustee see how fastgods are being taken

[pimpa]

^^ A man with a lil thought....

All i have to say to hec is.... wtf lol? nub :|

[simonrobinson]

And it doesnt stop the skillers, collect everyones RGA's and just have the login to each account and auto skill them... It would slow auto skilling down but it wouldnt prevent it.

Then you are left in an even worce situation because then the crews who would do this would have an even bigger advantage due to other crews who have a chance at winning sigils ect now because of trustees will no longer have that chance. They would also have even less chance at gane ect due to the same reason the skillers would be slower than they are now but still faster than manualy doing it.

ok like i said keep trustee for joining raids just stop it from casting skills so sigil n quiver can still be done via splits..

make it so e/s/l and bfa fort tome are no longer castable from trustee aswell as potions so folk actually need to be online to skill. surely activity is better than watching outwar die

[pimpa]

What makes you think that the people that have already quit and left their account trusteed will come back merely to do more work lol?

[simonrobinson]

What makes you think that the people that have already quit and left their account trusteed will come back merely to do more work lol?

i dont think some will lol thats my whole pt. tuff luck on them looks like they no longer win gods while people who actually play are online taking them

[Sparda1234]

ok like i said keep trustee for joining raids just stop it from casting skills so sigil n quiver can still be done via splits..

make it so e/s/l and bfa fort tome are no longer castable from trustee aswell as potions so folk actually need to be online to skill. surely activity is better than watching outwar die

yes i agree, but again changing it so skills and pots cant be cast via trustee doesnt prevent the auto skillers it just slows it down a lil all they would do is collect everyones RGA logins and have it login to each one and skill them yes it would add a few mins on the time but it would be faster than manualy doing it.

Not to mention the whole idea of RGA's and trustees was to stop people from having a reason to give out there RGA login info changing skills and pots would encourage that again.

[simonrobinson]

yes i agree, but again changing it so skills and pots cant be cast via trustee doesnt prevent the auto skillers it just slows it down a lil all they would do is collect everyones RGA logins and have it login to each one and skill them yes it would add a few mins on the time but it would be faster than manualy doing it.

Not to mention the whole idea of RGA's and trustees was to stop people from having a reason to give out there RGA login info changing skills and pots would encourage that again.

i actually disagree there for python to log in all the rgas and skill is definately not quicker than 25+ members in an active crew.

my whole arguement here is outwar as 28000 players or something like that of which maybe 1000 actually play while 200 play like 4hrs a day and 30 play 10+ hours back in sanc days and pete torax can verify we had chats with 50 members in 1 chat and a second chat open with another 27 members.

why cause u had to be active then to take gods now its all programs and pressing start alot. how many of u can say u have 50 members in a chat now.
im betting none

[pimpa]

"i actually disagree there for python to log in all the rgas and skill is definately not quicker than 25+ members in an active crew."

Find me 25+ members online in one crew and ill shake their hands individually.... lol your plan will never work and d4 will never get a blade :)

[makavelitehdon]

So why do use skillers hec? lol

[pimpa]

pooned lol

[simonrobinson]

So why do use skillers hec? lol

same reason u use macro maka and a mod too oops and the same reason everyone else on outwar uses skilles cause ow wont do nothin about it!!!

[makavelitehdon]

so dont talk like u done use them lol

[pimpa]

if ow wont do nothing about it why waste your time doin this sh!T? :)

[simonrobinson]

so dont talk like u done use them lol

i didnt talk like i dont use them i made a post to stop them. maybe to bring some activity back to outwar instead of a bunch of folk whining there bored all day cause programs are doing there job. you were the one who accused me of using them

[darkpoey]

I think a program doing everything, as sposed to lets say 4 raiders logging into each acct skilling, program will win...
I don't think everyones going to be like zomg no more trustees, I have to come play ow again to help my crew! so it'd still be raiders vs programs

[makavelitehdon]

It will not bring activity back, because people are bored with all stuff.

The way activity will be brought back when new stuff is released and will give something new to do and achive

[simonrobinson]

It will not bring activity back, because people are bored with all stuff.

The way activity will be brought back when new stuff is released and will give something new to do and achive

how will it not bring activity back lmao if they remove skilling that way then crews have to be more active because python isnt doing it all for them.

[makavelitehdon]

It will be same people on who alwasy on

[simonrobinson]

It will be same people on who alwasy on

yeah and if thats the case then some other crew will take the god

[simonrobinson]

I think a program doing everything, as sposed to lets say 4 raiders logging into each acct skilling, program will win...
I don't think everyones going to be like zomg no more trustees, I have to come play ow again to help my crew! so it'd still be raiders vs programs

thats y u dont have 4 people on thats y u need an active crew of 25+

[jeffers1986]

Dont you dare screw this up for everyone, it will only hurt the smaller crews and players. Besides its too late to remove it, if it was an issue it should have been taken care of over a year ago. Its been in place way too long to be changed now.

[Sparda1234]

lol dont you dare chires! that made me laugh sorry :p

[pimpa]

:)) lol he better not dare or ill whoop his ass ;) and it wont be like the way you used to do it rich :-" i have a wooden spoon!

[simonrobinson]

Dont you dare screw this up for everyone, it will only hurt the smaller crews and players. Besides its too late to remove it, if it was an issue it should have been taken care of over a year ago. Its been in place way too long to be changed now.

how will it hurt the smaller crews lol you guys are already getting hurt because the gods u are losing are being taken by multi crews go look at the god page.

all the gods are being beat by multis crews of the top5 crews

[pimpa]

=)) you assumed that, that guy was in a smaller crew hehe i like it :P alright heroes time!!! back in 40mins to see what more bs i gonna read :)

[jeffers1986]

And removing trustees will fix that? Theyll just redo the program to do individual logins, and all it will do for us is make raiding a huge pain in the ass. And even with all that said, like i said before its been this way for over a year. Changing it so late would only make a lot of people mad.

[simonrobinson]

And removing trustees will fix that? Theyll just redo the program to do individual logins, and all it will do for us is make raiding a huge pain in the ass. And even with all that said, like i said before its been this way for over a year. Changing it so late would only make a lot of people mad.

well if u read all the post i said to make skills and potions none castable from a trustee that way folk can still raid using splits.

u strike me as someone who relies a little to much on python???

[dtpy]

What they should do is add a button to "Skill this account" with a recaptcha on it.

"skill this account" would be determined by the owner of that account, for instance for my account it would be "lvl 10 bfa, lvl 10 fort, lvl 10 acc strike, lvl 1 tome"

That is un-pythonable as far as i know (lets ask dtpy, the expert).


Correct.
Well, at my level of py knowledge or other ow players it definitely is.

[dtpy]

, but suspending people for using skillers etc should be brought up, to punish those who use it.

can't be done.. ppl found out how to make py look like a normal user brwosing with FireFox from a WindowsNT platform.
So I don't really know how admins can prove they are using python. I mean really prove, in legal terms.
And if there still are py scripters that don't know how to change headers, i'd be happy inform them :D.. so here .. problem solved. (for py users)

And hec you noob, what will you do with ur million multies when they stop skillers Lol

=)))))) lmfao, i was just about to ask that.


PS: sorry for double or maybe even triple posting but i'm replying as I go along the thread.

[dtpy]

And it doesnt stop the skillers, collect everyones RGA's and just have the login to each account and auto skill them... It would slow auto skilling down but it wouldnt prevent it.

Then you are left in an even worce situation because then the crews who would do this would have an even bigger advantage due to other crews who have a chance at winning sigils ect now because of trustees will no longer have that chance. They would also have even less chance at gane ect due to the same reason the skillers would be slower than they are now but still faster than manualy doing it.

Well I meant to say sumthing like this after I'd finished reading the whole thread.

But yea ..If I were to have such a problem, I'd just get members that give me their logins. And non-nub members of big crews will certainly understand and give the leaders their login so that the crew can be successful.

PS: Again, sorry for multi posting, but i'm just replayin as I go along the thread .. and editing all my posts into one would result in one BIG F**KING reply ... and those are not pleasant to read :P

[simonrobinson]

can't be done.. ppl found out how to make py look like a normal user brwosing with FireFox from a WindowsNT platform.
So I don't really know how admins can prove they are using python. I mean really prove, in legal terms.
And if there still are py scripters that don't know how to change headers, i'd be happy inform them :D.. so here .. problem solved. (for py users)


=)))))) lmfao, i was just about to ask that.


PS: sorry for double or maybe even triple posting but i'm replying as I go along the thread.

lol i already answered it

[simonrobinson]

Well I meant to say sumthing like this after I'd finished reading the whole thread.

But yea ..If I were to have such a problem, I'd just get members that give me their logins. And non-nub members of big crews will certainly understand and give the leaders their login so that the crew can be successful.

yeah we understand that but would py be quicker than 30 active members online if it had to login each and every account.

same with empower stealth ect

[dtpy]

K, i got bored of reading all the thread .. got to page 3. :P

Here's some thoughts.

1. Ppl are lazy. They like not working they're ass off with moving accs and skilling them.

2. And ppl can still earn items from crews. How? Pot hunting. Cause the big crews have it all auto, but they also take potion gods, so they need pots.

The small crews? Well even if they don't need pots, they also don't have scripts.

3. Leaders like automated programs. Why? Members make mistakes. Human errors. Even with a simple task, a robotic one, they still make mistakes. Either cause it's human nature to make mistakes, or cause ow players in general are stupid :|

Hec, do you even know what will happen if what u dream about turns into reality ?
-either programmers come up with scripts to replce the old ones.
-or 50% of current ow players will quit cause they really don't like playing legit.

You said this will solve boredom. No it won't. It'll just cause ow to fall even more.
Maybe if more gods will be added, then the wait period between to raids on gods expected, will be reduced. Reduced waiting time, thus reduced boredom.

DarkTerror[FW]

[dtpy]

yeah we understand that but would py be quicker than 30 active members online if it had to login each and every account.

same with empower stealth ect

simple asnwer: yes, py would be quicker ... and human-error free.

and player count right now is very low. You'll never have 30 ppl online. Especially not 30 ppl from top40. So even if u have 30 ppl on, maybe 20 of them are just regular members, out of top40. Of course, these 20 ppl will not have access to the top40 RGA logins to skill them (cause the top40 accs only trusted leaders with RGA logins, not all members)

[simonrobinson]

simple asnwer: yes, py would be quicker ... and human-error free.

so let me quote you a scenario then..
2 crews are going for dregnor crew1 has 4 members online crew2 as 30

crew 1 has 3 joiners 1 guy pressing start on py .. he presses start and py sets off- remember now there is no skills on trustee so py has to login each acc.
py logs in acc 1 at same time member 1 logs in acc 1 to join it py gets locked out.

crew 2 meanwhile all 30 members have cleared any backpacks of items and are skilling thereselves individually.

crew1 has now started py all over again and the main members tells hes crew members dont join yet let py skill first.

crew 2 are now joining there own accounts and are just about to cast potions.

crew1 python skiller has finished skilling bfa fort tome but 15 members were using dcaa so 15 have lv2 bfa cast.

crew 1 member shouts omg crew 2 have potions cast.

crew 2 now have 40 accs in raid all skilled with potins cast.

crew1 havent even joined 40 accs yet.

WHO WINS THAT SCENARIO

[dtpy]

hec.. i didn't even read your post cause i sensed it's plain stupid.

Here's a scenario for you.

I get 10 PCs working, all with an internet connection. Each one will be a server for cetain py scripts, so they will act as 10 active players using py.

Who do u think will win? My 10 servers with py or your UNEXISTENT 30 active(at once) players?

GET IT OUT OF YOUR HEAD. You will never have 30 active players that are also in your crew's top40. If you do, it will be a once-a-year event.

And i was just exagerating with the 10 servers to prove my point. I can beat your 30 FICTIONAL active-at-once players with just 4 py servers/active players.

Making py login in each RGA will not take as much time as you believe.

Here's an idea of how to end this and have it Hec's way: Kill all the programmers! :eek: :eek:

/me hides.

PS: hec, please don't post any of that unrealistic sh*t again.

[pimpa]

rofl hec got pwned once again =))

[dtpy]

py logs in acc 1 at same time member 1 logs in acc 1 to join it py gets locked out.

All you need to do to avoid this kind of stuff is to have 2 or 3 "cloned" splits.

like:
split1A split1B split1C (1A 1B 1C have the same accs trustee to them)
split2A split2B split2C
split3A split3B split3C
and so on.

1A is for members joining the accs.
1B is for py skilling bfa/fort/tome
1C is for pot casting.


EDIT: Oh wait.. I forgot that whole idea is that there are no more trustees. Sorry. Disregard this post.

Still : There is still a way to avoid this with no trustees. Make skillers so that after they login into a RGA, they parse the rgsessid from source, and open the current rgsession in a browser so that humans can join the acct in raid while it's being skilled. (They don't log out each other cause they have the same login session id.)

[simonrobinson]

hec.. i didn't even read your post cause i sensed it's plain stupid.

Here's a scenario for you.

I get 10 PCs working, all with an internet connection. Each one will be a server for cetain py scripts, so they will act as 10 active players using py.

Who do u think will win? My 10 servers with py or your UNEXISTENT 30 active(at once) players?

GET IT OUT OF YOUR HEAD. You will never have 30 active players that are also in your crew's top40. If you do, it will be a once-a-year event.

And i was just exagerating with the 10 servers to prove my point. I can beat your 30 FICTIONAL active-at-once players with just 4 py servers/active players.

Making py login in each RGA will not take as much time as you believe.

Here's an idea of how to end this and have it Hec's way: Kill all the programmers! :eek: :eek:

/me hides.

PS: hec, please don't post any of that unrealistic sh*t again.

you have 10 pcs running that do you. lmao and you say dont post that unrealistic shit. the whole reason u say that a crew will never have 30 active accounts is the whole reason i made this post. people rely to much on programs and not players.

if your so good with py how bout u actually win some gods then mr i can pwn all on putwar with my scripts

[Firestarter]

u know he meant 4 people with different python scripts running on their pcs. i believe 4 people being online is more realistic than 30 people being online at teh same time

[simonrobinson]

u know he meant 4 people with different python scripts running on their pcs. i believe 4 people being online is more realistic than 30 people being online at teh same time

i know exactly wat he meant lol all i was saying was if hes so good why dont he win some gods

[dtpy]

you have 10 pcs running that do you. lmao and you say dont post that unrealistic shit. the whole reason u say that a crew will never have 30 active accounts is the whole reason i made this post. people rely to much on programs and not players.

if your so good with py how bout u actually win some gods then mr i can pwn all on putwar with my scripts

No, i don't have 10 servers, but it would be easy for me to do so. It would not be easy for you to gather 30 active top40 members at the same time. People have lives. Servers don't.

Win gods? With what ? My suspended account or my lvl 1 account ? I did in FW. I'm thinking of restarting a crew anyway, wanna join me ? =))

[simonrobinson]

u know he meant 4 people with different python scripts running on their pcs. i believe 4 people being online is more realistic than 30 people being online at teh same time

and fire there were times on outwar when crews had 30 people online at once my whole post was explaining why that is no longer the case.
programs have replaced them.
but people adapt and when they realise that they need other players to win gods then maybe you might see crews get active again.

as it stands right now people are taking gods in 5 minutes by removing trustee it will take much longer thus giving folk a chance to get more active members.

python doent empty ya backpack but a human does

[simonrobinson]

No, i don't have 10 servers, but it would be easy for me to do so. It would not be easy for you to gather 30 active top40 members at the same time. People have lives. Servers don't.

Win gods? With what ? My suspended account or my lvl 1 account ? I did in FW. I'm thinking of restarting a crew anyway, wanna join me ? =))

sure gimme a shout when u do if ya sh**s that good and ow doesnt do nout to stop it im game for pressing start 5 or 6 times

[Firestarter]

i know what u mean, hec, but those ow times are long forgotten, and u might be surprised to find out that a py script can even empty your backpack

[simonrobinson]

i know what u mean, hec, but those ow times are long forgotten, and u might be surprised to find out that a py script can even empty your backpack

so with all these programs in place and nothing being done fire how long before outwar is long forgotten

[pimpa]

not long... :)

EDIT: lol im only kidding... just programs are what seems to run this game now, not ow itself. OH to be so bored....

[Firestarter]

i'd say 6 months, but i'm not Nostradamus, rofl. only like 5 crews are in game now , rest are just a fill up

[dtpy]

How about you win some gods with your unrealistic dreams? OI have like 3-4 lvl 70 accs and a lot more powerful accs. All I see you doing is SR and Foundry. Of course, you got 2 elemental preserver, grats, but you're not showing me any raiding skills, so don't come to me asking to prove I'm better than you in raiding. You're supposed raiding doesn't even exist.

All I can see your good at is starting overdiscussed threads. You know why their so disscussed ? Cause your stupid ideas and replies fuels others to try and show you "the light".
Conclusion? Your threads are not discussed cause of your debate skills, but only cause of your stupidity.

I'm off. Bye.


EDIT:
Well, fire should know ... he knows me .. Scripts can do w/e humans can.. Empty backpacks, collect IDs for pants&orbs exactly, and much more ... Only thing py can't do is pass that recaptcha sh*t (well ..I can't do it) ... But then, there's always Typpo.

[pimpa]

Dont diss what we do in OI! Its alot more than that baby :)

[dtpy]

so with all these programs in place and nothing being done fire how long before outwar is long forgotten

Hec, do I have to tell you everything? OW is already dead and forgotten.
It's just us addicts that keep playin. And some random noobs that quit as soon as they start.

EDIT: And you know what us addicts do on ow ?
We:
-program
-look for glitches or vulns
-build up massive armys of multis (which once was illegal, but ow accepted it, as they also unofficially accepted programs)

[Firestarter]

actually, it's not, pimpa. at least not YET. basically foundry and sr, pwning the lil gods and potion gods varan - suka in polluted thoughts ain't exactly called raiding cause they stay up at least 1 hour

[simonrobinson]

actually, it's not, pimpa. at least not YET. basically foundry and sr, pwning the lil gods and potion gods varan - suka in polluted thoughts ain't exactly called raiding cause they stay up at least 1 hour

oi is doing alot better than most crews out there lol capped on 20 gods a week
2 ele preservers almost 5 done and massive growth daily due to raven oh and making 15000pts a week from raven too and kitting out multis with raven gear.

hmm sounds not bad to me

[Firestarter]

i didn't say u r not doing good, but when it comes to raiding skills u gotta take quiver, zertan, sigil, gane, dreg to prove smth. but i don't think anyone could beat the 2 or let's say 3 crews now that constantly get the quiver, zetan, sigil ...
EDIT:
i'll join your crew if every member makes 15 k a week now. mind if doubt that ? since no one buys sr items anymore

[pimpa]

lol... obviously each member doesnt make 15k /:) thats stupid... Sigil doesnt even have that many points on the server :(

truly blows dont it :) and pt pwns lol we get along kittin out the multis, we do help other people too they get some items which we dont need, theyre happy were all happy....

[Firestarter]

lol, let me see if i got this right: so u r doing foundry, raven, u r "kittin" your multies and u r very happy. did i miss smth ? u said in a previous thread u r doing more than that. frankly i don't see anything else. or maybe by "more" u meant being happy and kittin multies

EDIT: mind if i doubt that u r selling 15 k worth of sr items / a week ?

[simonrobinson]

i didn't say u r not doing good, but when it comes to raiding skills u gotta take quiver, zertan, sigil, gane, dreg to prove smth. but i don't think anyone could beat the 2 or let's say 3 crews now that constantly get the quiver, zetan, sigil ...
EDIT:
i'll join your crew if every member makes 15 k a week now. mind if doubt that ? since no one buys sr items anymore


first of all u need 30 accs to take sigil lol and dreg u need 40 good accs if we wanted those gods or wanted to try then i would recruit more members. we are happy the way we are at mo ive had plenty of offers from bigger crews. when oi is ready top pwn we will make no mistake there

[Firestarter]

i know u r happy, i was just explaining pimpa that u do nothing else than what i posted, he must be dreaming that OI takes nar zhul, but u r not at that point yet. as for the 15 k now, u would be happy to get 15 k a month. but that doesn't happen anymore

[pimpa]

=)) zhul is sh!t bring me varan! lol we need some new gods in the game for the bigger crews to take so that wee crews can take some stuff...

[simonrobinson]

lol, let me see if i got this right: so u r doing foundry, raven, u r "kittin" your multies and u r very happy. did i miss smth ? u said in a previous thread u r doing more than that. frankly i don't see anything else. or maybe by "more" u meant being happy and kittin multies

EDIT: mind if i doubt that u r selling 15 k worth of sr items / a week ?


you can doubt fire and although i dont need to prove it here is the last 7 days;-
Mobius02 Deposited 400 points 01/28/2008
IMBACKAGAIN Deposited 500 points 01/28/2008
OmegaSin Deposited 85 points 01/27/2008
oXoSIZZLAoXo Deposited 250 points 01/27/2008
IMBACKAGAIN Deposited 2000 points 01/27/2008
Nemesis16 Deposited 230 points 01/27/2008
Shawty Deposited 1600 points 01/27/2008
spoony619 Deposited 60.00 points 01/26/2008
spoony619 Deposited 400.00 points 01/26/2008
SUOLCALIBUR2004 Deposited 100 points 01/26/2008
SUOLCALIBUR2004 Deposited 600 points 01/26/2008
THECHARMEDONES Deposited 35 points 01/25/2008
Secretmercenary Deposited 450 points 01/25/2008
THEKING123 Deposited 65 points 01/25/2008
TheaDog Deposited 100 points 01/25/2008
LeuteToter Deposited 1500 points 01/25/2008
bamafan3414 Deposited 65 points 01/24/2008
Secretmercenary Deposited 350 points 01/24/2008
Secretmercenary Deposited 100 points 01/24/2008
Secretmercenary Deposited 100 points 01/24/2008
Secretmercenary Deposited 400 points 01/24/2008
EternaLzoD Deposited 300 points 01/24/2008
SugarsAngel Deposited 485 points 01/24/2008
rakio Deposited 180 points 01/24/2008
flyingtails Deposited 400 points 01/24/2008
THEPOWEROFTHREE Deposited 35 points 01/24/2008
Lobo2 Deposited 3480 points 01/24/2008
Bosma2 Deposited 397.02 points 01/24/2008
Bosma2 Deposited 280 points 01/24/2008
n00bkillerR Deposited 400 points 01/24/2008
6Gr1ms6Wra1th6 Deposited 90 points 01/24/2008
Rugged Deposited 90 points 01/23/2008
xXBarberXx Deposited 35 points 01/23/2008
Aero Deposited 35 points 01/23/2008
LuckyGirl1 Deposited 35 points 01/23/2008
Pimpa Deposited 35 points 01/23/2008
ups420 Deposited 90 points 01/23/2008
ups420 Deposited 100 points 01/23/2008
MixMsterMike Deposited 2000 points 01/23/2008
diefirma Deposited 450 points 01/23/2008
diefirma Deposited 100 points 01/23/2008
ARCHEANGELSPIKE1 Deposited 475 points 01/23/2008
ARCHEANGELSPIKE1 Deposited 500 points 01/23/2008
MarioMod Deposited 65 points 01/23/2008
KromsPriNg Deposited 1000 points 01/23/2008
MarioMod Deposited 36 points 01/23/2008
MarioMod Deposited 4 points 01/23/2008
k3Nn Deposited 65 points 01/23/2008
MarioMod Deposited 150 points 01/23/2008
germangrfgt Deposited 65 points 01/23/2008
kiwiiih Deposited 600 points 01/23/2008
pizzor Deposited 100 points 01/23/2008
bamafan3414 Deposited 100 points 01/22/2008
Pimpa Deposited 40 points 01/22/2008
azbo Deposited 750 points 01/22/2008
Destroyer52 Deposited 300 points 01/22/2008
kidd Deposited 180 points 01/22/2008
DivinePower Deposited 65 points 01/22/2008
Phazon Deposited 100 points 01/22/2008
sloppyslurper Deposited 100 points 01/22/2008
DevilAdd Deposited 730 points 01/22/2008
rakio Deposited 100 points 01/21/2008
rakio Deposited 280 points 01/21/2008
kiwiiih Deposited 425 points 01/21/2008
coreyd Deposited 280 points 01/21/2008

that = a total of 24602 pts - 10 runs on raven over the week at 825 a run
so 8250 .............24602-8250=16352pts profit in 7 days not including all the items we still have to sell...thats in 1 crew

[Firestarter]

not bad, and u were the one complaining about economy ? :p

[pimpa]

lol u got nout to prove hec :P get rich or die tryin :-<

[dtpy]

This thread is going off-topic about what OI can and can't do. I didn't say they can't. I don't doubt they're leadership skills and play skills. They just didn't prove anything.

ok they proved they can make pts

Now, regarding programs, one last thing:
Ow started with programs. Take those away and outwar as we know it will die.
U remember the thug-builders? the DCAAs, the AAs the AJs, the new DCAAs, the new AJs, the glitches the hacks, the db access, the drama, that's why ow is fun. Make it all legit and it will die.

OW = programs, not a silly little stupid game with no content that u just play over and over again.

U want me to prove why ow = programs? F*ck, before i started playin ow, all i knew about python is that it's a snake.

I just had some very basic and nub-like program knowledge from school.

I learnt and developed my program skills on outwar. Outwar taught me python. =)) isn't that a b*tch ?

I dunno about the other programmers, tho.. but it would be funny to find out someone else learned to program cause of ow too :P

Btw, i wouldn't be surprised if ow officially started a "best programmers" rankings along with "most experienced" and "most powerful" =)).

another btw: How about ya'll start a thread and list all the programmers u know on ow... I've always been curious of who else is there :P (apart from those i already know :P)

[makavelitehdon]

I think its time to close the thread, nothing usefull going in here..

[pimpa]

You cant make a thread of ow programmers... each post has a limit of 30k characters 8-| lol ;))

[simonrobinson]

You cant make a thread of ow programmers... each post has a limit of 30k characters 8-| lol ;))

lol well ow either do shit about it or they dont they know there outthere so its upto them to sort it either way ive had a good afteroon posting on here lol

[DruiD]

so let me quote you a scenario then..
2 crews are going for dregnor crew1 has 4 members online crew2 as 30

crew 1 has 3 joiners 1 guy pressing start on py .. he presses start and py sets off- remember now there is no skills on trustee so py has to login each acc.
py logs in acc 1 at same time member 1 logs in acc 1 to join it py gets locked out.

crew 2 meanwhile all 30 members have cleared any backpacks of items and are skilling thereselves individually.

crew1 has now started py all over again and the main members tells hes crew members dont join yet let py skill first.

crew 2 are now joining there own accounts and are just about to cast potions.

crew1 python skiller has finished skilling bfa fort tome but 15 members were using dcaa so 15 have lv2 bfa cast.

crew 1 member shouts omg crew 2 have potions cast.

crew 2 now have 40 accs in raid all skilled with potins cast.

crew1 havent even joined 40 accs yet.

WHO WINS THAT SCENARIO

Adding login instead of trustee adds a max of 2 extra seconds on top of what it would of took with trustee, which isn't a huge difference at all. I don't care, 30 people finding correct orbs / pants and blah blah blah, compared to what, 5 or 6 seconds per account with 1 person?, yeah I believe a program wins regardless. Now factor in the other 2 having the skiller as well, just makes it that more quicker.

[pimpa]

channel 3! emmerdales on woot

[dtpy]

either way ive had a good afteroon posting on here lol

same :D

Adding login instead of trustee adds a max of 2 extra seconds on top of what it would of took with trustee, which isn't a huge difference at all. I don't care, 30 people finding correct orbs / pants and blah blah blah, compared to what, 5 or 6 seconds per account with 1 person?, yeah I believe a program wins regardless. Now factor in the other 2 having the skiller as well, just makes it that more quicker.

finally, sumone qualified to prove hec wrong and back me up :P

[simonrobinson]

Adding login instead of trustee adds a max of 2 extra seconds on top of what it would of took with trustee, which isn't a huge difference at all. I don't care, 30 people finding correct orbs / pants and blah blah blah, compared to what, 5 or 6 seconds per account with 1 person?, yeah I believe a program wins regardless. Now factor in the other 2 having the skiller as well, just makes it that more quicker.

better start learning py then driud so u guys can win some gods.. or if u do know it whats going on there

[DruiD]

yeah, the sess id appears on a redirect page, that in itself takes what a millisecond to load, then another millisecond for the parse, then wallah onto skilling. It won't hinder the amount of time it takes to win a god that requires skilling one bit

um hec, watch the server page bro, we're winning gods in CH and Ownage, and just started again last week and already taking zertan - sigil again, don't start this slamming stuff because I was explaining why login doesn't hinder nothing

[pimpa]

this thread is getting boring *yawn*

[dtpy]

better start learning py then driud so u guys can win some gods.. or if u do know it whats going on there

druid's area is vb is i'm not mistaken. so he has no need to learn py, hec.

[simonrobinson]

yeah, the sess id appears on a redirect page, that in itself takes what a millisecond to load, then another millisecond for the parse, then wallah onto skilling. It won't hinder the amount of time it takes to win a god that requires skilling one bit

um hec, watch the server page bro, we're winning gods in CH and Ownage, and just started again last week and already taking zertan - sigil again, don't start this slamming stuff because I was explaining why login doesn't hinder nothing

u dont need python to win sigil quiver zertan ect i was just saying if u know so much about it why isnt ch takin dreg

[DruiD]

Hec, I want you to screen shot that last post, and next week want an apology :p

We had a 3 month drought where everyone was out of town working, or had to study for college and stuff so we fell behind, but now everythings back in order and you can expect to see us continue to climb (as long as gods stop spawning between 5 - 8am ow time, stupid job and school haha)

[simonrobinson]

Hec, I want you to screen shot that last post, and next week want an apology :p

lol well good luck on dreg i will sure apologise when i see ch take it

[Firestarter]

boo, stop joking or i'll faint, druid :p

[simonrobinson]

Hec, I want you to screen shot that last post, and next week want an apology :p

We had a 3 month drought where everyone was out of town working, or had to study for college and stuff so we fell behind, but now everythings back in order and you can expect to see us continue to climb (as long as gods stop spawning between 5 - 8am ow time, stupid job and school haha)

yeah but dont forget u only need 3 members online u should be ok

[DruiD]

we're way ahead of the curve then, typically 15 - 20 in chat with speakers on for godups, and always about 5 or 6 talking at any given time.

[dtpy]

omfg, we're gettin close to 100 posts :D

[simonrobinson]

we're way ahead of the curve then, typically 15 - 20 in chat with speakers on for godups, and always about 5 or 6 talking at any given time.

15-20 in chat lol damn thats the most active crew on sigil at the mo... an earlier post by pimpa means he has to shake ya hand:eek:

[Firestarter]

/me wonders if ch will get 6 essences in a row like tfo did :D

[DruiD]

But nah hec, just was trying to explain what I knew about the topic and that's that logins won't reduce skiller speed. It would slow down joining speed a bit, but keep in mind we have the raid bar you all used in sanc but better because it's made by one of our members and you remember that logins didn't hinder speed with that at all


lol fire, you know we're not that "lucky"

[dtpy]

/me wonders if ch will get 6 essences in a row like tfo did :D

maybe ... who in ch has db? speak up ! =))

[DruiD]

I wish I did, would of made sigil spawn at a different time. Stay up all night for that damn god, and spawns at 8am in the morning when I decided to sleep and hardly anyone on

[simonrobinson]

I wish I did, would of made sigil spawn at a different time. Stay up all night for that damn god, and spawns at 8am in the morning when I decided to sleep and hardly anyone on

didnt they have 8 drops in a row lol and like some leet kro shuk drps ect

[Firestarter]

yeah, i'm still wondering if ow added some crew upgrade called 100 % LUCK :-j

[crypticlifestyle]

lol programs didnt make people go inactive...This game being boring made people go inactive, also most have grown out of this game, and are busy being adults now, going to college, have jobs, have familys now...Sigil is old, and so arnt a lot of the players...Whats left is the die hard players, and the new players...

[jeffers1986]

well if u read all the post i said to make skills and potions none castable from a trustee that way folk can still raid using splits.

u strike me as someone who relies a little to much on python???


Python? Sorry if i seem a bit oblivious but im not into any of the "outwarez" that are out there right now, but nice attempt at trying to accuse me of it. And I dont want to do a stupid sec word every time I raid. It already takes forever to move my accounts to the spot and get them skilled on this crappy school connection, it doesnt need to be any slower.

[Firestarter]

i thought people were not supposed to play ow at school :( bad bad rampid

[jeffers1986]

......


College man, not high school.

[Rampid_Justin]

Even I'm on Outwar at college.. haha

[pimpa]

So justin timberlake, whats your view on hecs idea?

[Rampid_Justin]

So justin timberlake, whats your view on hecs idea?

Trustees aren't being removed, I haven't really read much else about the "idea", but that's a definite.

[Wizzy]

i didnt talk like i dont use them i made a post to stop them. maybe to bring some activity back to outwar instead of a bunch of folk whining there bored all day cause programs are doing there job. you were the one who accused me of using them


If I remember correctly, people want MORE to do. ie. more content. I don't recall programs causing people to be bored.

How about you win some gods with your unrealistic dreams? OI have like 3-4 lvl 70 accs and a lot more powerful accs. All I see you doing is SR and Foundry. Of course, you got 2 elemental preserver, grats, but you're not showing me any raiding skills, so don't come to me asking to prove I'm better than you in raiding. You're supposed raiding doesn't even exist.

All I can see your good at is starting overdiscussed threads. You know why their so disscussed ? Cause your stupid ideas and replies fuels others to try and show your "the light".
Conclusion? Your threads are not discussed cause of your debate skills, but only cause of your stupidity.

I'm off. Bye.


EDIT:
Well, fire should know ... he knows me .. Scripts can do w/e humans can.. Empty backpacks, collect IDs for pants&orbs exactly, and much more ... Only thing py can't do is pass that recaptcha sh*t (well ..I can't do it) ... But then, there's always Typpo.

Mishu r0x my s0x. Thank you for putting the words together.

Also, Justin has spoken, case closed!

[nhake]

i actually disagree there for python to log in all the rgas and skill is definately not quicker than 25+ members in an active crew.

Tell me one crew that has 25+ members on at the same time in a raid chat.

[dtpy]

Mishu r0x my s0x. Thank you for putting the words together.

Also, Justin has spoken, case closed!


Oups, i just saw a I made a typo :D
"fuels others to try and show your "the light"" (i meant you, not your) :o

W1zzy r0x my sh0es :eek: (I don't have s0x on :o)

j/k

[medman]

where do i get all these fancy programs and scripts? lol i have been reading about them all over the forums ,and can't seem to find any of them. i want to be a kick ass raiders with no one on

[dtpy]

where do i get all these fancy programs and scripts? lol i have been reading about them all over the forums ,and can't seem to find any of them. i want to be a kick ass raiders with no one on
what do u want ? :D

[medman]

what do u want ? :D

hell if rampid won't do anythign about them, i need em all :P

[dtpy]

what do u want ? :D
j/k .. i script for me, my crew, friends or ppl who pay ..
+ i don't have the time right now ...

[simonrobinson]

If I remember correctly, people want MORE to do. ie. more content. I don't recall programs causing people to be bored.



Mishu r0x my s0x. Thank you for putting the words together.

Also, Justin has spoken, case closed!


scripts working well for you then w1zza

[dtpy]

scripts working well for you then w1zza

they are ... for everyone ... even for you hec :| .. i dunno why u even talk like u'r not in this with all of us.

[simonrobinson]

they are ... for everyone ... even for you hec :| .. i dunno why u even talk like u'r not in this with all of us.


totally innocent here dtpy unless u wanna hook me up free

[dtpy]

totally innocent here dtpy unless u wanna hook me up free

no your not, shut up !

why do people even keep hiding the fact that they use scripts ?

And how do you manage your 13523689379823 multis, hec ? U got leet ff tabbing skills like T1NA had ? =))

And didn't sharkat give u my sd script some time ago so u can run your 600 sd multis on tfo ?

[simonrobinson]

no your not, shut up !

why do people even keep hiding the fact that they use scripts ?

And how do you manage your 13523689379823 multis, hec ? U got leet ff tabbing skills like T1NA had ? =))

And didn't sharkat give u my sd script some time ago so u can run your 600 sd multis on tfo ?


i actually do why are you so bitter m8 did i upset you awwwww

[Firestarter]

obviosuly no one is an angel in here. just close this useless thread :D

[simonrobinson]

obviosuly no one is an angel in here. just close this useless thread :D


agreed before dtpy continues to babble on with hes useless knowledge!!!

[dtpy]

i actually do why are you so bitter m8 did i upset you awwwww
i'm actually laughing ;)

[simonrobinson]

i'm actually laughing ;)


woot dtpy is happy instead of all that bitterness

[Shawty]

closed :D

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