Point Store additions..

[TehNo0b]

A few things that could be added to point store.. feel free to post your own suggestions/ideas.

- Secondary Skill reset. Let us reset our secondary skill for points. Runes/spells staying intact for switching back to at a later date would be nice, but that is more or less a luxury.. not as important to me as being able to do it at all even with the setback i'd hate to see something like this deemed not plausible due to lost runes and whatnot.. its still worth it.
Alot of new people coming to play, they are going to be unsure of their skills at first that they want. These people are also going to be spending alot of time and in some cases money to find out they made the wrong decision, i think enabling people to change their secondary skill at a hefty fee will be a nice way to circumvent alot of those issues. Also keep in mind we all understand skills are going to change/evolve, let us do the same if its not a big issue working something like this into the game.


- Really would like to see gold being able to be purchased in mass quantities for points in the point store even if you don't do some sort of gold for points exchange and vice versa by the community itself as i mentioned in a prior post. Though i wouldn't put something like this in the game on actual release if you intend to have all guild halls aval right away.
Guild halls are actually another reason why a player based exchange system/rates would be better/prefered since whats on the market slowly grows as we do instead of being able to purchase a unlimited amount of 'gold' not actually aquired by players themselves. Just trying to find other ways to buy gold even if they aren't quite what i had in mind.


- Use your imagination...



Theirs a fine line between letting people buy their way through the game, and giving more or less luxury items people can get by without. At the same time unlike another game i won't mention people might actually want to support this game which is a reason you don't even think about when you purchase points usually. I'm sure you guys have lots of nice things in store we just haven't gotten to see yet, but just make sure you guys give us things to spend points on (or throw in that exchange system lol that fixes everything)...
Real money for .gifs don't translate to me so well, but the 3d world/mmorpg somehow (real game lol) does. That along with the great work, effort, and attention we've all gotten to witness you guys put forth.. i think you got something very worthwhile here.

[TehNo0b]

Bump this shit. I've been waiting along time to change red out for green.. so i can be what i was in beta. The only reason i didn't pick green this time was because it completely sucked in beta.. only one pet stayed out, was no tree pet, root didn't work on anything but players, was no green gear, all greens spells got buffed since then. Red is the exact same as it was in beta.. which then was the best.. but not anymore. You have a big problem with people wanting to change their colors when your changing everything in game in which we based our decisions on. Just throw that shit in the pointstore and charge 2k points for it or something... idgaf how much it costs.. 5k? who cares.. put it in there. Dont make this game about multis like outwar is... also I shouldn't have to make an Alt char to replace this one that has a maxed out pointstore, lore, notrade, gemmed gear i have.

I've seen one red/black get to change out their black to white.. that is fine but i was under the assumption this was merely a tester to sort how changing colors would work now i hear we will not be able to change colors at all.. "I was here first" seems to be a popular thing to say at spawn sites in this game... so i requested this first.. change meh! lol

Edit: If people think its a problem to enable people to change colors frequently what you can do is make it have a XP requirment.. ie: when you have 10mil+ experience you can purchase this in the pointstore... that way people aren't grinding with one combination to ease their way to 50 only to change it once they get there. Yes i have a solution for everything.. lets get this put in game already lol....
For every problem their is that this feature could bring.. their are very very very simple solutions. Don't trash the idea so hastily.. people like me need this, and have been waiting for along time.. yet we've gone too far forward with our 'main' accounts to start over.. and we shouldn't have too.

[Sparda1234]

If people want to be another color then they should have to do the work to grow that account up. It states that when you chose your colors you can not change them.

You should have picked a better color :p

However if you want a black green account then make one level it up and do the work to get it to level 50.

If for some unknown reason they do add the option to change your colors you should definelty NOT keep your old runes to change back at a later date all runes should be reset to nothing and you have to get them all over again if you change.

I dont see why they would ever add this option, it would just mean power leveling multis would be easier since you could go white red (fastest combo to level your account) then change it when you hit 50.

Sure colors get changed over time, a weaker color becomes a stronger color and the strong colors get weaker till they get buffed up to level with the other colors. But that doesnt mean you should be able to pick and chose your colors anytime you want too. Do the work and make a new account and get that account up to level.

[TehNo0b]

If people want to be another color then they should have to do the work to grow that account up. It states that when you chose your colors you can not change them.

You should have picked a better color :p

However if you want a black green account then make one level it up and do the work to get it to level 50.

If for some unknown reason they do add the option to change your colors you should definelty NOT keep your old runes to change back at a later date all runes should be reset to nothing and you have to get them all over again if you change.

I dont see why they would ever add this option, it would just mean power leveling multis would be easier since you could go white red (fastest combo to level your account) then change it when you hit 50.

Sure colors get changed over time, a weaker color becomes a stronger color and the strong colors get weaker till they get buffed up to level with the other colors. But that doesnt mean you should be able to pick and chose your colors anytime you want too. Do the work and make a new account and get that account up to level.

If you transfer all my pointstore exp gear, my lifespike upgrade, my arcane upgrades.. all the stat point upgrades, mana upgrade, my point store backpacks.. my beta tester equip, i might be willing to do this and magically forget about 6million experience/time/other monies i'd be sacrificing.. but until then i want my red switched to green. Telling people to spend a year on one account, and if they want to change they have to start all over from scratch is quite ridiculus. And the fact of the matter is they've already changed mafioso from red/black to red/white.. if they had no intention of allowing EVERYONE to do this why would they grant special favors to ONE person? They've proven this is something they are ready to implement into the game... well right now, its been done, worked good.. when is it my turn?

And like i said this has nothing to do with multis, if rampid was actually worried about people using certain colors to grind to 50 then all they would have to do is put a experience cap on the color changing option in the pointstore. Like i said set that limit at something like 10million (which i dont even have yet) and their is no one in their right mind who would consider that a 'multi' anymore. This multi example is a very poor reason not to allow people to change colors.. and i'm actually surprised your not thinking of better sparda lol.. this is very easily fixed. And no i dont think you should be able to keep runes.. the original post was dated just as beta ended and the final was released.

[B34STY]

I saw let nub get his change on.
I dont mind.

[LifeEnder]

With AA's and new levels coming (60) it is crazy for people to be wasting time on multis. That would be like telling smeone on outwar who has 100million xp that if they want to be preservation class they need to start over because they are stuck as they are, which ofcourse is not the case. I dont understand why instead of having one good account people are making multiple mediocre accounts. Let people change their colors.

Let people continue too grow and thrive on one account instead of making them start over because you dont want to implement whats already a working update into the pointstore because of some imaginary problems with it.

I think that TehNo0b guy is awesome and we should listen to every single word he says like he was jesus himself. (/me winks at sparda)

[joshy]

With AA's and new levels coming (60) it is crazy for people to be wasting time on multis. That would be like telling smeone on outwar who has 100million xp that if they want to be preservation class they need to start over because they are stuck as they are, which ofcourse is not the case. I dont understand why instead of having one good account people are making multiple mediocre accounts. Let people change their colors.

Let people continue too grow and thrive on one account instead of making them start over because you dont want to implement whats already a working update into the pointstore because of some imaginary problems with it.

I think that TehNo0b guy is awesome and we should listen to every single word he says like he was jesus himself. (/me winks at sparda)With AA's and new levels coming (60) it is crazy for people to be wasting time on multis.
(AA's?)

Good post Nubs

[yneos]

alternate advancedments or something like that.

[joshy]

alternate advancedments or something like that.What would that be?

[monaro]

With AA's and new levels coming (60) it is crazy for people to be wasting time on multis. That would be like telling smeone on outwar who has 100million xp that if they want to be preservation class they need to start over because they are stuck as they are, which ofcourse is not the case. I dont understand why instead of having one good account people are making multiple mediocre accounts. Let people change their colors.

Let people continue too grow and thrive on one account instead of making them start over because you dont want to implement whats already a working update into the pointstore because of some imaginary problems with it.

I think that TehNo0b guy is awesome and we should listen to every single word he says like he was jesus himself. (/me winks at sparda)

1)AA''s are in my guess over a month away as we havnt heard any full news about them and as always we wont get a patch for another month.
2) There hasnt been any word on lvl 60 at all, so you would be waitng months and months before something like this comes out, as more content is needed.
3)How can you compare OW to CoP? it takes a legit player without programs over a year to be able to hit lvl 70, and it takes what, 2 weeks if that to hit lvl 50 on CoP. There is no big deal in just starting again to make new colours. I mean i recently just made a multi that i wanted to be blue black, as i have wanted a pvp multi for some time. It has taken me what, 2 days of playing all up and im lvl 31 already, so its not that hard to do.

[monaro]

What would that be?

AA's are something for the lvl capped players (lvl 50 on CoP). Once you reach your level cap, from then on you can use your experience and trade it for upgrades for your account (same as on OW, more attack, resist, spell damage etc.)

[TehNo0b]

1)AA''s are in my guess over a month away as we havnt heard any full news about them and as always we wont get a patch for another month.
2) There hasnt been any word on lvl 60 at all, so you would be waitng months and months before something like this comes out, as more content is needed.
3)How can you compare OW to CoP? it takes a legit player without programs over a year to be able to hit lvl 70, and it takes what, 2 weeks if that to hit lvl 50 on CoP. There is no big deal in just starting again to make new colours. I mean i recently just made a multi that i wanted to be blue black, as i have wanted a pvp multi for some time. It has taken me what, 2 days of playing all up and im lvl 31 already, so its not that hard to do.

Not everyone wants to make a multi, nor do most people have the time to do so. While you can make one account #1, have angus be lvl50 and be on your third isn't something most of us can do. And their is a post floating around here by admins saying their will be more levels added (60), while their actually is word about it your right it won't be for awhile. Why should i have to make a multi, what is it you think is bad about implmenting mana color changing potions that already have been developed and tested successfully? People are investing money into their accounts to find out in the long haul they made mistakes and threw it away for nothing.. give me one good reason why they shouldn't be able to correct their mistakes with some points via pointstore... chances are i'd give you a solution. Other then that i'll assume your trying to validate Angus and this new black/blue multi you invest some of your extra time into.

And also i'm like 4.5million above lvl50 and like you said AA's are just around the corner.. why should i have to start over? How does anyone being able to switch colors hinder you or make you feel slighted in anyway?

Please explain.. and lets dig alittle deeper ;)

[Ryuzaki]

Not everyone wants to make a multi, nor do most people have the time to do so. While you can make one account #1, have angus be lvl50 and be on your third isn't something most of us can do. And their is a post floating around here by admins saying their will be more levels added (60), while their actually is word about it your right it won't be for awhile. Why should i have to make a multi, what is it you think is bad about implmenting mana color changing potions that already have been developed and tested successfully? People are investing money into their accounts to find out in the long haul they made mistakes and threw it away for nothing.. give me one good reason why they shouldn't be able to correct their mistakes with some points via pointstore... chances are i'd give you a solution. Other then that i'll assume your trying to validate Angus and this new black/blue multi you invest some of your extra time into.

And also i'm like 4.5million above lvl50 and like you said AA's are just around the corner.. why should i have to start over? How does anyone being able to switch colors hinder you or make you feel slighted in anyway?

Please explain.. and lets dig alittle deeper ;)

About changing colours I'd say this much, how is it fair for someone to after they make their first chara, make a level 1 multi, grind it to 50, get all the point store upgrades, only for them now to have been able to save both points and hassle and just do it through the points store?

[rufneck]

if it is there choice let them ask 5k points good bonus for development i don't care what someone's collor is if they pay for it be my guest just let the price be high

[joshy]

if it is there choice let them ask 5k points good bonus for development i don't care what someone's collor is if they pay for it be my guest just let the price be highThat was hard to read the way you worded this statement.

[TehNo0b]

About changing colours I'd say this much, how is it fair for someone to after they make their first chara, make a level 1 multi, grind it to 50, get all the point store upgrades, only for them now to have been able to save both points and hassle and just do it through the points store?

And you think people should have to do this?

[Xythiel]

About changing colours I'd say this much, how is it fair for someone to after they make their first chara, make a level 1 multi, grind it to 50, get all the point store upgrades, only for them now to have been able to save both points and hassle and just do it through the points store?


I don't recall anyone making him grind multiple characters up to the same lvl as his main... he just gets bored sometimes, because there's not much to do in australia

so, i totally agree with Nub. if he wants to spend money towards the game to make a legitimate change that puts him at a loss for points and runes then that is all on him

and this part isn't a disagreement, just my thoughts on the issue: every color is strong in it's own way. i haven't yet seen one color combination stay unbeatable for long due to the patches and improvements in colors lacking power. for all you know you could switch over to black/green and then red end up getting a buff that makes you jealous. i would stick with what you've got and just keep learning to fight better with what you've got.

[TehNo0b]

I don't recall anyone making him grind multiple characters up to the same lvl as his main... he just gets bored sometimes, because there's not much to do in australia

so, i totally agree with Nub. if he wants to spend money towards the game to make a legitimate change that puts him at a loss for points and runes then that is all on him

and this part isn't a disagreement, just my thoughts on the issue: every color is strong in it's own way. i haven't yet seen one color combination stay unbeatable for long due to the patches and improvements in colors lacking power. for all you know you could switch over to black/green and then red end up getting a buff that makes you jealous. i would stick with what you've got and just keep learning to fight better with what you've got.

Tbh if i was picking colors to be as strong as i could be with whats current i'd chose black/white. I have actually wanted to change to black/green since august.. something i've thought long and hard about and have wanted for quite awhile. Just about all the people who disagree with people being able to change colors.. are people who made alt, and got them to 50 basically like i said they are here to validate their time spent lol.. no real points proven here, and their won't be any against mana color changes.

[TehNo0b]

With AA's and new levels coming (60) it is crazy for people to be wasting time on multis. That would be like telling smeone on outwar who has 100million xp that if they want to be preservation class they need to start over because they are stuck as they are, which ofcourse is not the case. I dont understand why instead of having one good account people are making multiple mediocre accounts. Let people change their colors.

Let people continue too grow and thrive on one account instead of making them start over because you dont want to implement whats already a working update into the pointstore because of some imaginary problems with it.

I think that TehNo0b guy is awesome and we should listen to every single word he says like he was jesus himself. (/me winks at sparda)

First let me say that you have got to me one of my favorite multi rga's i've ever had lol..

Secondly when are we going to be able to change our mana colors.. since i posted last in this thread i've invested even more into this account and got even more notrade gear, more upgrades. While i do have a lvl30 something green/black multi in the works i would still prefer to change my red mana on my main to green and i'd def be willing to pay top dollar for it if i have to even though theirs atleast one person in the realm who got it for free to 'test' it.. well testing worked great put that potion in the pointstore already... whats the hold up? My last response i got from admin before i let this thread drop into la la land was that it will be here, just not anytime soon.. that was awhile ago. Times up! lol ;)

[Ryuzaki]

And you think people should have to do this?

My point wasn't that it was a bad idea, just that it should have been put in at the start of the game rather than now, where it is unfair on those who have worked on multi's... If they offered everyone a free stat point/colour reset so somewhat of a clean slate, then yeah I'd be fine with it lol...

[TehNo0b]

My point wasn't that it was a bad idea, just that it should have been put in at the start of the game rather than now, where it is unfair on those who have worked on multi's... If they offered everyone a free stat point/colour reset so somewhat of a clean slate, then yeah I'd be fine with it lol...

I don't care how they do it, as long as it includes me ;)