Point Economy.

[schietstoel]

Item prices are lowering all the time, i believe that this is nothing good to the servers and the players.

To get control of the point economy ow could bring back some kind of speciality shop where they can buy items (gods only) from players. The ow shop will have standard prices for buying items (server based) this way item prices will go up again. The outwar speciality shop can also sell items back to ppl, lets say you sell a item to the shop for 100pts, the shop sells it for 125pts, this way ow can take out points of the game the same way they get in.

I realy like to see how other ppl think about this. this can turn out to be a realy good thing!

//schietstoel

[simonrobinson]

Item prices are lowering all the time, i believe that this is nothing good to the servers and the players.

To get control of the point economy ow could bring back some kind of speciality shop where they can buy items (gods only) from players. The ow shop will have standard prices for buying items (server based) this way item prices will go up again. The outwar speciality shop can also sell items back to ppl, lets say you sell a item to the shop for 100pts, the shop sells it for 125pts, this way ow can take out points of the game the same way they get in.

I realy like to see how other ppl think about this. this can turn out to be a realy good thing!

//schietstoel

i believe makavelli alredy covered this in a post

[jeffers1986]

Prices dont need to go up. 50 dollars worth of points for one ungemmed god item was ridiculous.

[schietstoel]

50 dollars, 900pts? thats nothing there are items that are still worth more then 900pts.

[Domination]

I agree the prices are far to low, a specialty shop would work perfectly to increase them again.

[papercut36]

points are dead on sigil

[SkatrBill]

i remember when darn GBOF's sold for 11k on fabar. no one had complaints, only noobs would complain about prices going up now. the servers are dead, and now rancids going to crap : /. got to love teh TBH nubs selling gods cheaper and cheaper as teh days pasy

[Domination]

There just as bad on fabar, all the points ran to zimbob when it came out, that whole server was a mistake.

[simonrobinson]

There just as bad on fabar, all the points ran to zimbob when it came out, that whole server was a mistake.

you mean rancid dont you.
rancid being a pt only server alot of the players who spent money on the other 4 servers left and went there knowing money would get them far

[Domination]

you mean rancid dont you.
rancid being a pt only server alot of the players who spent money on the other 4 servers left and went there knowing money would get them far

I'm talking about before rancid, when zimbob was release alot of people sold there gods (which drove down the prices for some of the gods) and went to zimbob, they basically took all the points there and wasted them on treasury stuff.

[schietstoel]

yeh zimbob took away alot of points, but with all those treasury upgrades points get lost pretty fast, the upgrades are good so ppl keep buying them,..

but i think this point shop might work verry well for both sides, the players and outwar staff. basicly they will be back in control of the point economy, they seem to be far away of that right now, seeing all those messages about treasury stuff and point promotions..

//schiet

[Firestarter]

i suggest that they add every single item to the treasury, rofl. remove all gods from the game and let people dcaa 24/7

[Domination]

Ya but within 2 weeks some one will make a auto-treasury buyer. people on this game are so lazyyyy.

[Firestarter]

haha, that was funny :-j

[Zumbakeny]

Yeah this idea is a very well thought and very strong idea, it really does give Outwar the chance and Rampid Staff the chance to take control of the point economy, you can say at this moment Outwar has gone into a depression with points, though yes still people buy the points, yes people still have their PP and such, the fact that gods which are still considered rare, such as on Fabar and SR gods, are going for so cheap, it needs to be brought back into a balance and control. Id personally rather be able to sell gods to this treasury like program and make the easy points, then over a few weeks time you will see prices all greatly increase to where they should be. Not only would god prices increase but Augments and Skill Orb prices would also be brought back up to the Normal Level, and sold through the actual meaning of Supply and Demand. As well as people would be more prone to buying more points knowing that this god they are paying decent points for will not lose all point value in only a weeks time

[schietstoel]

Ya but within 2 weeks some one will make a auto-treasury buyer. people on this game are so lazyyyy.

this would be useless.

OW buys item x for 100pts
OW sell item x for 110pts

ppl who make autobuyers to make some quick points will only lose points that way.

It should be able to add this new 'reCapticha' stuff that we use while raiding to confirm that you wanna buy an item.

[Domination]

this would be useless.

OW buys item x for 100pts
OW sell item x for 110pts

ppl who make autobuyers to make some quick points will only lose points that way.

It should be able to add this new 'reCapticha' stuff that we use while raiding to confirm that you wanna buy an item.

I was only kidding, i don't actually think someone would make one of these.

[schietstoel]

well it is always better to have a script like reCapticha to stop automated stuff. a long time ago there was something like fair playing xD

[Domination]

Ya playing fair.. the good ole days

[superdudes]

A big problem would be the having to have all prices on servers independent, thsu having an admin have to update everytime there is a price shift. The admins are allready loaded with shit to do, they dont have time to do research and set prices for the items.

[Domination]

A big problem would be the having to have all prices on servers independent, thsu having an admin have to update everytime there is a price shift. The admins are allready loaded with shit to do, they dont have time to do research and set prices for the items.

Thats why the have a meeting with groups of players from each servers to help set an overall price guide for the game.

[Swudeson]

I'm just wondering what would happen if outwar were to reduce the price of points? Would the cost of items sky rocket? Or would many more people be willing to pay slightly higher prices and stimulate an economy!?

I'm not talking permanent $5 = 200

I'm talking permanent $5 = 150

It's like the +50% point promo, but permanent. Also, if outwar cared, they would add promos more often. It gives them money, and helps the economy for... 3 days to a week. Every few weeks should be a POINT promotion, not a Treasury Sale, Outwar. We need POINTS to buy from the TREASURY!

~Swude

[chgangstapur1]

Item prices are lowering all the time, i believe that this is nothing good to the servers and the players.

To get control of the point economy ow could bring back some kind of speciality shop where they can buy items (gods only) from players. The ow shop will have standard prices for buying items (server based) this way item prices will go up again. The outwar speciality shop can also sell items back to ppl, lets say you sell a item to the shop for 100pts, the shop sells it for 125pts, this way ow can take out points of the game the same way they get in.

I realy like to see how other ppl think about this. this can turn out to be a realy good thing!

//schietstoel

that would be dumb, because knowing ow they would make the pts you get back for gods SHIT

ow likes to screw ppl like that

you turn in kro bp, get 500pts back

[crudedude]

just get some of the higher lvl players on each server to set the prices for their server. the sell vaulue would be lower then what they would normally sell for (after prices go back up some). and the buy value higher. the stock of this would be controlled by outwar players so theres only as many say ravagers as ppl sell to it.

[Zumbakeny]

that would be dumb, because knowing ow they would make the pts you get back for gods SHIT

ow likes to screw ppl like that

you turn in kro bp, get 500pts back

This is why you dont keep it in complete outwar control, and let some people be hired by outwar like mods are and mod helpers are to control the point economy and make sure prices are how they should be and are legit for each server. Of course the Admins and such just have to pay close attention to these people.

The balance system is not working on outwar and that is the problem that is happening Supply for alot of items are still Low but yet the prices of these items have shot down, when in reality they should be rising. As the supply increases then the prices can decrease but not as drastic as it has on the servers. right now items such as Kro plates and that are not selling for much more than 500 points on some servers cause they cannot seem to find people willing to pay that much, as some crews sell SR gods for dirt cheap as it is said, way under the Supply and Demand Cross Point for these particular gods. So in reality if put together properly this idea brought here will bring the Demand of the item up as more people are able to get to points, and thus increased demand will come increased price and increased profit. Therefore in the end the points travel more through the players and less through actual outwar making the game a little more like its on econemy for each individual server.

As I stated in an earlier post Outwar is in what seems to be a depression of points and such and measures like this one are things that can be done to pull outwar out of that depression.

[robtheklepto]

ok putting in something that ppl can sell their items to is fine....

that makes it so that it so the item has a min price


but if you also allow people to buy from here it makes the item have a max price....


isn't that what killed potion prices???

month or 2 ago kin pots were 100 pts... when ow changed pot prices in the treasure prices dropped... now a set is 90 pts...


so i agree with being able to sell items to ow but not buy um...




as for the monitors... 90% of outwars monitors are corrupt in some way...

so what makes u think they wont lower or raise prices to get things where they like, then kill prices for everyone else???


all ow has to do is get the head mods on each server to take a poll monthly and report it back to them... then make a standard price for ALL servers...


yes that would help everyone....

if ravs are 500 on sigil and 5k on rancid...

it would lower rancids economy yes, but it would boom sigils...

sigil has been here since the begining and i think that rancid could bare to loose some for the sake of dieing server(pt economy wise)... (this coming from a torax player)

[GAGE]

i dunno what most servers economy is like but sigil's is dead its the poor mans server, i went over to torax couple days ago to see what i could buy there and the prices compared to sigil was insane i was being offered nar zhul body for 1700 points a kro body for 2.1k, even a rare ebliss body for 5k, now if i tried to get them items on sigil the prices would be insane

[schietstoel]

but if you also allow people to buy from here it makes the item have a max price....


isn't that what killed potion prices???

The max price shouldnt be lower as the max price we have now. having a lower max price then we have now will not help the server at all. as o said before, this idea is ment to be helpfull and not to destroy the servers.


if ravs are 500 on sigil and 5k on rancid...

it would lower rancids economy yes, but it would boom sigils...

Each server would get their own price list, problem fixed xD

[simonrobinson]

outwar ask the wrong people on prices. half the gamemods play less than 2 hrs a day most
are not the best outwar players or even have played the game long.

getting a chat together with 20-30 of the top players/leaders ect and discussing prices would be a somewhat genious move by outwar...i said it first here

[schietstoel]

well, if you wanna make a price list, for your server and post it here, the admins will be 1 step closer to make something like this.

//schiet

[jeffers1986]

I don't know why you all think low prices are a bad thing. How is it bad that people can actually afford decent shit for once? The crews are still making a profit, its not like you had to pay for each item. Seriously why do certain people have to be so greedy for points when theyre already at the top of the game? Or is it just the fact that they cant stand a level 30 running around with better than a noc set?

[simonrobinson]

I don't know why you all think low prices are a bad thing. How is it bad that people can actually afford decent shit for once? The crews are still making a profit, its not like you had to pay for each item. Seriously why do certain people have to be so greedy for points when theyre already at the top of the game? Or is it just the fact that they cant stand a level 30 running around with better than a noc set?

you have it all wrong m8 we dont mind lower levels getting good sets. the smaller folk keep us big folk in pts so we can improve our sets

[jeffers1986]

Well unfortunately not everyone looks at it that way. Some people have this preconception that people of a certain level aren't supposed to step over certain boundaries and its really gotten on my nerves.

[exdbx]

Well unfortunately not everyone looks at it that way. Some people have this preconception that people of a certain level aren't supposed to step over certain boundaries and its really gotten on my nerves.



Now now, don't get carried away newbie stay in your limits :P

Listen when a game has value, it is more fun. When a level 30 like u can afford the gods items for the correct prices then its alright, but when u see someone paying over 10k for something before and then seeing it go for 1k to a hobo like you, that is NOT FUN!

Do i make my point clear Nooblar?