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EBV
01-18-2008, 02:26 PM
Bring Nar Zhul or something like it on rancid.....it aint right with woz's item playing on that server

HaxXxY
01-18-2008, 02:28 PM
Elie Is so right i havent been around when war of zhul came out but i feel how it is missed on rancid , loads of ppl talk about it so plz do bring that or something in its nature to rancid

Much Love

- HaxOwnsj00

Domination
01-18-2008, 02:29 PM
Rancid wasn't out when woz came out, so i don't see a point to bring it to rancid. there's also a good chance that 90% of the players on rancid had already done woz on other servers, so it would be allowing those players to do it twice.

Jesse
01-18-2008, 02:34 PM
People did it on 3 servers when it was out that really is not the point. The point is things can be done on all the other servers that can not be done on rancid due the fact that rancid players do not have the WoZ items.

Or...they can be done cheaper on other servers.

Example 15 man Gods require flasks on rancid but other servers they are beatable without.

Why should rancid pay more because it is newer?

EBV
01-18-2008, 02:35 PM
ok, so how about us getting the holy blade like other servers????????? why people on rancid r being treated in such a way, they get usspened for double sr runs while everyone is doing them on other servers, they dont get their holy blades at lvl 60 like everyone ele, and they do nto have items from woz liek everyone, either make one day where people can get those items, or like a rare spawn or something... but playing on a server without skul of flames and other woz's item sucks.
The number one concer should be that lvl 60 or top pl;ayer of each race shoudl get a holy blade like all other servers

Domination
01-18-2008, 02:37 PM
People did it on 3 servers when it was out that really is not the point. The point is things can be done on all the other servers that can not be done on rancid due the fact that rancid players do not have the WoZ items.

Or...they can be done cheaper on other servers.

Example 15 man Gods require flasks on rancid but other servers they are beatable without.

Why should rancid pay more because it is newer?



Simple that, its a newer server and it wasn't around during woz.

darkpoey
01-18-2008, 02:40 PM
Okay, i would like to see a WoZ on Rancid but not now, not for a while.. a year perhaps?... Why? It would kill the Economy, since everyone would have the cauldron items. Kinda like zimbob.

Domination
01-18-2008, 02:50 PM
Rancid would get the newer woz content(if one came out that is) but it won't get the first one

EBV
01-18-2008, 03:07 PM
ok Mr Domination, well how about the Holy Blades????????????????? there is no reason why they shouldnt be awarded on rancid..... so why not awarding them???????????????

Domination
01-18-2008, 03:14 PM
ok Mr Domination, well how about the Holy Blades????????????????? there is no reason why they shouldnt be awarded on rancid..... so why not awarding them???????????????


Who knows, could be the same reason why WoZ wouldn't come to rancid, servers to new and doesn't deserve something that was given to the older servers.

Egnar
01-18-2008, 03:35 PM
I think Domination pretty much hit the nail on the head here. Every other server has so many reforged blades that a few minor upgrades (holy blades) really don't make a difference.

Sigil, Fabar and Torax didn't get to where they are today in <1 year. It took years to get the items some people have. Honestly, judging by time. . .I'd say Fabar would be around "Shield Wall" and varan gods being uber right now. . .Not complaining about reforged and WoZ.

Sparda1234
01-18-2008, 03:42 PM
Top characters of each class from each server besides Rancid and previous to today’s changes have been awarded a special item to recognize their monumental accomplishment.

At that point rancid had been out for how long? A month maybe? What "monumental accomplishments" has anyone done on rancid server?

Exactly...

Domination
01-18-2008, 03:43 PM
I think Domination pretty much hit the nail on the head here. Every other server has so many reforged blades that a few minor upgrades (holy blades) really don't make a difference.

Sigil, Fabar and Torax didn't get to where they are today in <1 year. It took years to get the items some people have. Honestly, judging by time. . .I'd say Fabar would be around "Shield Wall" and varan gods being uber right now. . .Not complaining about reforged and WoZ.


To be honest i don't think rancid show even have the sacred blade quest yet also i don't think life forces shouldn't drop, essences shouldn't, soul gems shouldn't and zhul essences shouldn't be in treasury.

Egnar
01-18-2008, 03:45 PM
Should take away 5-man gods, the second set of potion raids and Stone Raven, too!

Domination
01-18-2008, 03:48 PM
Should take away 5-man gods, the second set of potion raids and Stone Raven, too!


Agreed why should a server 3 to 4 months old have stone raven, stone ravens gona do the same economic damage that it did on the legacy servers. that server should have any of it for at the leased 6 months to a year. the same thing should have been done on zimbob and fabar when they came out.

Sparda1234
01-18-2008, 04:07 PM
Agreed why should a server 3 to 4 months old have stone raven, stone ravens gona do the same economic damage that it did on the legacy servers. that server should have any of it for at the leased 6 months to a year. the same thing should have been done on zimbob and fabar when they came out.

Well the other legacy servers came out long before raven lol :p

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Domination
01-18-2008, 04:10 PM
Well the other legacy servers came out long before raven lol :p
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Haha i just realized that, stupid me :P maybe they shouldn't have gotten the blade so soon maybe then again it was hard on fabar not so hard on zimbob.

SkatrBill
01-18-2008, 04:10 PM
ok, so how about us getting the holy blade like other servers????????? why people on rancid r being treated in such a way, they get usspened for double sr runs while everyone is doing them on other servers, they dont get their holy blades at lvl 60 like everyone ele, and they do nto have items from woz liek everyone, either make one day where people can get those items, or like a rare spawn or something... but playing on a server without skul of flames and other woz's item sucks.
The number one concer should be that lvl 60 or top pl;ayer of each race shoudl get a holy blade like all other servers

holy blades were given to the other servers cause they were down longer from what i belive and it wasn't for reaching lvl 60 it was for being the highest exp, and half those people should be happy cause they didn't have to dc as much exp as everyone who was under lvl 50 has to do now 55 + had the highest raises.

and to only be fair WoZ should be on rancid just beuacse the items give great resistance which would end up helping all of the members on the server also get some items out to people who work hard for them :), no offense dom your argument saying taht rancid came out after WoZ and should have a newer war if they bring it back is absolutely ridiculous it doesn't make anything fair i say if jesse (taking that is makemebad) thinks we should have WoZ back cause of how much he spent on ow we should have it back :-P

Sparda1234
01-18-2008, 04:16 PM
and half those people should be happy cause they didn't have to dc as much exp as everyone who was under lvl 50 has to do now 55 + had the highest raises.

That makes no sense lol, of course they had to dc as much exp as everyone else.. they still had more exp than you to start with.. Just because you need a different amount of exp than before to get to the level, that person who has more exp than you still had more exp than you before hand lol

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SkatrBill
01-18-2008, 04:21 PM
That makes no sense lol, of course they had to dc as much exp as everyone else.. they still had more exp than you to start with.. Just because you need a different amount of exp than before to get to the level, that person who has more exp than you still had more exp than you before hand lol


and really my post did make sense, maybe not to you but lvl 55 use to be like 8 mil now its 18 mil. Before people only only had to dc 8 mil which would now be 18 mil for anyone who wants to reach lvl 55. i doubt you would understand this unless you were playing a server other than sigil. i didn't care about this on fabar cause i got lvl 59 which was more exp than 58 was before but on rancid it didn't seem 2 fair.

Domination
01-18-2008, 04:26 PM
and really my post did make sense, maybe not to you but lvl 55 use to be like 8 mil now its 18 mil. Before people only only had to dc 8 mil which would now be 18 mil for anyone who wants to reach lvl 55. i doubt you would understand this unless you were playing a server other than sigil. i didn't care about this on fabar cause i got lvl 59 which was more exp than 58 was before but on rancid it didn't seem 2 fair.

tsk rancid's 4 -5 months old no one should even be close to lvl 50 yet.

darkpoey
01-18-2008, 04:29 PM
tsk rancid's 4 -5 months old no one should even be close to lvl 50 yet.
Say thanks to the treasury for that one. As said in former threads, Rancid was probly created to roll in some cash, which it did.

Sparda1234
01-18-2008, 04:32 PM
Exactly rancid is only a few months old, people shouldnt have been growing as quickly as they were so infact thinking about it... The change in the exp levels was a good thing for rancid.

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Wizzy
01-18-2008, 04:38 PM
People did it on 3 servers when it was out that really is not the point. The point is things can be done on all the other servers that can not be done on rancid due the fact that rancid players do not have the WoZ items.

Or...they can be done cheaper on other servers.

Example 15 man Gods require flasks on rancid but other servers they are beatable without.

Why should rancid pay more because it is newer?
Simple that, its a newer server and it wasn't around during woz.

I understand what Jesse is saying and I sympathize for him. He wants everything to be the same on each server so every server can progress to have the same chances of doing this and that as the others.

If WoZ isn't brought on the newer servers EVER then it'd be a downside if you want to start over to startover on the newer servers because one of the main focus in the game - Stone Raven - would be more costly and difficult to do due to the lack of the shadow belt and fire skull.

And I understand others saying that the newer servers should wait to get the same things that we have such as quests and so on but WoZ is not something that you really "progress" into as it seemed to have been a "one-time" thing.

darkpoey
01-18-2008, 04:38 PM
Exactly rancid is only a few months old, people shouldnt have been growing as quickly as they were so infact thinking about it... The change in the exp levels was a good thing for rancid.

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:)


no, it wasnt, it wouldve been if they did it at the starting of the server, some people had around 10+ mil exp slapped on to their account, which totally unbalanced the playing field. brought em almost right to level 60

SkatrBill
01-18-2008, 05:07 PM
Exactly rancid is only a few months old, people shouldnt have been growing as quickly as they were so infact thinking about it... The change in the exp levels was a good thing for rancid.

like i said earlier all you do is play sigil so there for an exp change doesn't matter to you and if they wanted to make it so people would grow slower they would have stoped PR from doing like 20 double SR runs along with not letting people be able to grow 500k a day as makemebad did for a few weeks straight.

and if they wanted to prevent this they should have done it before or left people at their normal experience before the change and also kept the lvl they were not just automatically upgrade people from like 8mil exp to 18 mil when lower lvl people were only getting under a mil or so exp while lvl 55 or so got 10 mil....

if you think thats fair you clearly have no sense in rationality and fairness

Domination
01-18-2008, 05:20 PM
like i said earlier all you do is play sigil so there for an exp change doesn't matter to you and if they wanted to make it so people would grow slower they would have stoped PR from doing like 20 double SR runs along with not letting people be able to grow 500k a day as makemebad did for a few weeks straight.

and if they wanted to prevent this they should have done it before or left people at their normal experience before the change and also kept the lvl they were not just automatically upgrade people from like 8mil exp to 18 mil when lower lvl people were only getting under a mil or so exp while lvl 55 or so got 10 mil....

if you think thats fair you clearly have no sense in rationality and fairness

The free lvl up was gift from the admin for all the down time, and the exp gained from the exp chart update had to be increased, it wouldn't be fair to all the people to have there exp decreased just to suit the new lvls

SkatrBill
01-18-2008, 05:26 PM
The free lvl up was gift from the admin for all the down time, and the exp gained from the exp chart update had to be increased, it wouldn't be fair to all the people to have there exp decreased just to suit the new lvls

i don't understand how many times i have to say this, i guarantee that you are a high lvl and don't understand what i am trying to say at all, i don't care about the free lvl up but changing the exp chart shouldn't have been changed right after the server started. Maybe if the server was out for atleast a year or 2 like sigil torax fabar and zimbob it would make sense.

if we used the old exp chart makemebad would bearly be reaching lvl 60 right now, but now hes like lvl 63, tell me how this is fair on a server where there are people who have to dc 10-15mil exp that he had gotten for free?

try thinking as if you actually played rancid not like you played sigil or torax or w/e you play.

like i said before (atleast i think i did) i was happy i got my lvl and raised to 27.5mil exp on fabar but since i was playing rancid full time i realized how shitty it was for all the lower lvl people...

Jesse
01-18-2008, 06:44 PM
I received probably the greatest benefit for the exp boost on rancid and I really dont think it was a good thing for the server in general to have the exp given as it was. On the other hand I had busted ass and spent a lot of coin to get to lvl 55. So the best thing would have been to give the free level up to everyone and NOT change the exp chart on rancid, at least for some time.
That being said,
WoZ should be offered to rancid as a one time event just like the other servers experienced it. Zimbob was young when woz was out, it didnt RUIN the server.

Re the holy blade I was told by an admin that 1st to level 60 in each class would get it, again I spent a lot of money (hundreds) to get to level 60 for the blade and when I hit 60 I was given the blade. At this point I purchased a few hundred dollars worth of points to Gem and Nicely augment the blade, it was taken away....given back...taken away Given back then taken away again.

Point is I spent a lot of money cuz I was told something by an admin and then it was renigged upon. Least they can do is get the story straight :(

RE: PR and double SR runs, this has been done on every server in several crews Since the begin of SR so PR should not be singled out. We made OW a lot of money doing those runs regardless.

FakeM4A1
01-18-2008, 06:48 PM
ok ... So Domination tell then why was WOZ on fabar and zimbob ? I mean when rancid needs to wait as u say. Why did zimbob and fabar got it ? As i know zimbob is not that old... right ? From you're point of view you're saying that rancid server should NOT have WOZ. But zimbob and fabar was ok about that. LoL

How much was old zimbob when he had WOZ ? I'm like 90 % sure he had less then a year. So we will wait that rancid celebrate his first birthday and then we will have WOZ. Is that ok with you?

Or you still have that moto "Rancid Isn't Old Enough To Deserve WoZ".

How did zimbob deserve it ?

Domination
01-18-2008, 06:57 PM
ok ... So Domination tell then why was WOZ on fabar and zimbob ? I mean when rancid needs to wait as u say. Why did zimbob and fabar got it ? As i know zimbob is not that old... right ? From you're point of view you're saying that rancid server should NOT have WOZ. But zimbob and fabar was ok about that. LoL

How much was old zimbob when he had WOZ ? I'm like 90 % sure he had less then year. So we will wait that rancid celebrate his first birthday and then we will have WOZ. Is that ok with you?

Or you still have that moto "Rancid Isn't Old Enough To Deserve WoZ".

How did zimbob deserve it ?

Zimbob was already released and was given it. They probably shouldn't have because simply 98% of the crews couldn't take single one of the spawn bosses and held the other 3 server back,( i'm sure everyone remembers those long waits for zimbob) it was being asked why they don't give it to rancid, basically rancid wasn't released yet had it been, I'm sure it would have been given WoZ. asking the admin to activate WoZ just so you all get a chance for those items isn't likely about to happen.

EBV
01-19-2008, 04:35 AM
I would like to add a couple of points here that people aitn taking in consideration.....
First of all domination is saying that people shouldnt even reach lvl 50.... well u shouldnt not forget what have ow made in the last 4 month since the realsing of rancid, every week there was point offers, and a lot of discount on treasy,u can buy now from treasury
1-Sosa pot
2-Pumpkin Pot
3-Recharge Fury
4-Double xp
all these items r given to players in a really cheap Price, so anyone that can afford 50$ a week on this game can fly to lvl 60 in no time
and with all the new max rage items, for example the pumpkin hear which gives approx 3.4k max rage, and the zhul items u can buy from treasury and the new crew upgrade Max Temper.
SO NOW! u cant talk about growing like u used to in 2 years or 3 years when fabar started. Now any active player putting like 150 points a day with 25k max rage can grow 300k easily without doing sr, sr also gives 100k for free :| so now 400k growth is a freaken normal growth. So dont forget to take these stuff in consideration.
And about the extra 10 mill on xp chart, well it was fair enough, coz some peopel busted their ass wasted points to grow that fast to start sr, while other people didnt spend one penny on this game.

robtheklepto
01-19-2008, 04:51 AM
either way...

admins arent gonna activate woz just for rancid...

if anything they'll put the damn items in the treasury and kill the economy more on both legacy and rancid...

w/e i sall on rancid... 15k for a sr run... yalls prices are insane... maybe if you made your sr prices reasonable, instead of trying to buy a whole run by selling a single arm... you wouldn't have to worry about the price for sr...

Royalblade
01-19-2008, 05:36 AM
Im playing for abt 1 month now and im lvl 37. Ok i baugt points and stuff but i never baught anyhting like more rage or double exp. the only thing i baught was 3k more rage. and that was already expensive enough.

@Domination
why dont you kindly ask your boss or whoever decides that.
And if it doesnt work people just wait another 5 months it should be out then.

Deltorro
01-19-2008, 09:14 AM
why should we have to pay 15k pts for a zhul item when on the other servers they got them for free from zhul invasion

darkpoey
01-19-2008, 11:00 AM
I received probably the greatest benefit for the exp boost on rancid and I really dont think it was a good thing for the server in general to have the exp given as it was. On the other hand I had busted ass and spent a lot of coin to get to lvl 55. So the best thing would have been to give the free level up to everyone and NOT change the exp chart on rancid, at least for some time.
That being said,
WoZ should be offered to rancid as a one time event just like the other servers experienced it. Zimbob was young when woz was out, it didnt RUIN the server.


I agree, you certainly busted your ass off to grow that fast, just think the EXP chart would of been much smarter to release at the starting of the server. As for WoZ it would be nice to see, just not too early, as those arcane rings would be everywhere, and nobody would want a seal. Shadow belts everywhere, nobody'l buy meta belts. etc etc

Zimbob was kinda young, and it didnt RUIN it, but it made a huge dent in the economy, hell, Imperium was still around... it was pretty early

snyper816
01-19-2008, 03:04 PM
i agree... we definitely need a WoZ type thing, or something to at least give us nice resistance items on rancid

EBV
01-19-2008, 03:26 PM
But still, the holy blades were given out after they took ow down, and still people on rancid didnt get them

SkatrBill
01-19-2008, 04:46 PM
But still, the holy blades were given out after they took ow down, and still people on rancid didnt get them

meh, i don't see why they kept giving makemebad one and taking it away, they should have either given or not given.
and i don't think rancid should have gotten them giving out 5 reforged blades basically would be retarded. think about it, no one else has a reforged or will have one for a decent ammount of time. i don't see no sense in giving any out until theres ateast 2 or so reforgeds.