Security Image Change

[doug89]

I would like to see outwar change the way security images are implemented to assist new crews to get started.

I recently started my own crew and am half way through raiding 25 government sets. Even with 5 manning the security images greatly lengthen the raiding process. I feel that new crews are having a hard time getting off the ground because of the security images.

I propose one of three changes to fix this.

1. Remove the security image from low level raids to help new crews establish.

2. Remove the security image from non-spawn raids (ie gods)

3. Implement better software that allows quicker security checks.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this matter?

[Frozt007]

Personally, I love OW's new method for screening on raids. This is a great system and less likely to AJ. (Less likely, not 100%, but still better odds now).

Real raiders can win the Gods now, let's keep it this way.

~FroztMod

[Kourtney]

Removing the sec picture from weaker mobs isn't a bad idea. I never thought about adding security as the value of the god went up. The time freed from it would help lower crews that are competing to get a grip on their first few gods.

[jZampage]

Heh - real raiders - brings up an... interesting point I would say, considering crews who have been utterly obsolete for years are now top 3... nonetheless, I think if they took the sec word out on set raids it would be abused just as bad... if I could I would raid like 100 sets of noc auto vaulting them into myself if that was the case -- I enjoy the sec words on raids, and I am a pretty hardcore raider. It's annoying as piss, but you have to make sacrifices to enjoy a more fun game.

[Gamer]

ah zamp still dont like to see us finally going good? i have to inform you that mb took in the past years also quiver zertan jazzmin. it isnt that we suddenly out of nowhere are taking them.

[Wizzy]

I don't believe zamp mentioned anything about MB...

Anyways, I agree with zamp, the security words on raids right now are just perfect and have regulated all kinds of raid abuse. If it's removed from the lower mobs and set mobs then expect to see alot more multis and skills ^_^

[doug89]

Real raiders can win the Gods now, let's keep it this way.
I didn't suggest you remove the security from god raids, read before you post please.

I think if they took the sec word out on set raids it would be abused just as bad... if I could I would raid like 100 sets of noc auto vaulting them into myself
This is an issue, thats why I also suggested removing the security only for low level raids eg government or less etc.

[Wizzy]

Gov't would just as well as Noc we raided out the bum for multis and noone raids anything less these days anyways so there's no point.

[DruiD]

Yeah, it goes back to the ever popular "multi abuse" statement :p If they were to take sec images off of lower gods, people's multi crews would be auto joining them and then it'll make it even more of a hassle for you, because you have about a 80% less chance of getting that god, then you would of if a sec image was there

The recaptcha is a pain yes, but it is preventing program use for the most part, once you get your crew built up a bit, you'll learn to like the sec images.

A suggestion would be to make a few friends on this game, get a loop of trustees with each other, and do the raids together. It'll cut down on how much work you have to do individually, and you'll increase your raid times dramatically

[Sparda1234]

lol yeah, when there wasnt sec images on the set raids i worked quite a bit on my multis again setting sets up on them.

Now with the images on them it just takes too long so not worth it.

In a way im i think they should get removed of set raids, but again i still cant be botherd with doing sets anymore so i dont really care lol.

[jeffers1986]

I don't believe zamp mentioned anything about MB...

Anyways, I agree with zamp, the security words on raids right now are just perfect and have regulated all kinds of raid abuse. If it's removed from the lower mobs and set mobs then expect to see alot more multis and skills ^_^




No, I think youve forgotten the level requirements that were put on all the sets, and the fact that it takes way more exp to get each level now. Making decent multis is next to impossible now.

[Sensational]

No, I think youve forgotten the level requirements that were put on all the sets, and the fact that it takes way more exp to get each level now. Making decent multis is next to impossible now.

all you have to do is give the multis the junk from the raids (e.g. sash from noc) they dont have set requirements and that'll get your multis up levels.. then you give them the set and your sorted.

[jZampage]

Sec words aren't going anywhere, so there's no reason to continue *****ing about it - I would recommend coming up with some answers that would actually help the game. They may be annoying, but at least they help with cheaters.

[Wizzy]

agreed zampy. They shouldn't and probably will not go anywhere in any case.

[Mully]

I like the images on the raids, but I hate the images in general. I like being able to click the double word instead of having to type in words. These get annoying, especially on some where there are lines going through the words and you can barely tell what it says. The other day I had an image that seemed to be in a different language... =/

[Sparda1234]

lol i have had a few words which wasnt in english, it can be annoying at times...

[Sensational]

ive have ones that wernt in english and both words were so long.. took like 20 seconds to get it right lol

[Domination]

ive have ones that wernt in english and both words were so long.. took like 20 seconds to get it right lol

Ya me too, i've has one that was 35,000,000th or something like that.
(But i've noticed that if it starts with a number you don't have to type it, i dunno if that a glitch or a loop hole in that or not, if so admin plz fix.))

[Langered]

yeah but at the end of the day... they may take a while to type in and get a decent amopunt of characters into a raid... so if you dont like it, just dont becaome the raider in the crew... get someone else to do it, that dont actually mind..!

Seriously, find something important to say...
or dont say nothing atal...

its not hard to tpye them anyways, so what they're in a diff language.. funily enough, the whole world dont speak english... but even with that point aside, you must be pretty stupid to not be able to read something that is strikethrough... but even if you cant read... get it along the right lines.. not all the words have to be perfect!

So really?


Langered

[Destructo01]

whats there to ***** about images for?? i for one dont raid alot i usually equip my multis with ost or champ as i get the sets.. i COULD raid ele/noc and personally i dont have anything against those captcha things.. champ is about the same as gov if u ask me..

oh and another note about the captcha.. if there are one long word and one short word u can usually just type the long word and it accepts it.. and as the above poster says.. u dont have to write them perfectly.

[Spamantha]

I would like to see outwar change the way security images are implemented to assist new crews to get started.

I recently started my own crew and am half way through raiding 25 government sets. Even with 5 manning the security images greatly lengthen the raiding process. I feel that new crews are having a hard time getting off the ground because of the security images.

I propose one of three changes to fix this.

1. Remove the security image from low level raids to help new crews establish.

2. Remove the security image from non-spawn raids (ie gods)

3. Implement better software that allows quicker security checks.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this matter?


As people get lazy they find new ways to accomplish their goals. Removing captcha for new or small crews is a bad idea. Leaving multy crews of an even better chance to monopolise these raids. If Admins would actually do their jobs, and suspend the crews that are Auto Joining raids then i'd say go for it. atleast it would make people think twice about auto joining. Their too lazy to actually work.Sitting around adding captcha to raids while their pockets get fat. Any which way you go to make a suggestion to remove the captcha, there will still be someone Auto Joining. this means that Admins have to police the game, and we all know that's not going to happen.

[aj8560]

fyi if u read on the recapatcha site it says that only 1 of the words need to be typed. The other word is only the to be added to the system. Whenever u get a capatcha type the word that looks easier to see and 95% of the time its the word that you have to type.

[Spamantha]

captcha is great! But there should be different types, random changes in captcha style. IMAGES!, such as an apple or orange, with a question " What type of fruit is this"? or both an apple and an orange with "pick the apple". It's as simple as creating a problem, that only a human has an answer for. No script can distinguish the difference between an apple or orange.
It would be as simple as a click! Then a month later, swap to a different type of captcha. Use symbols. Pick the correct symbol. There are hundreds of programs that spam,and store captcha / security words. There are programs for the bind that bypass captcha also. It can easily be used for mmorpg games. Captcha is great but, but it's just as easy to Auto Join a raid as not having it at all. People are monopolizing these raids even with capthca. ADMINS should be policing the game as they are supposed to be doing. They should be suspending, if not disbanding crews for their AJ use. joining 40 accounts in 2 minutes is not human.Crews monopolizing a god for 3 weeks,and taking the same amount of time to take that same god each time is not human. for instance 3:30 seconds for a 40 man raid. PLEASE DO SOMETHING ADMINS! this is not fair. I watched you suspend a few people for auto attackers, and DCAA! When is the last time you suspended someone for Auto Joining raids?