Patch Notes (1.16.0)

[Torax]

General
- Improved load time between zones.
- Improved name rendering above player's heads.
- Players will no longer appear to slide on the ground when moving under higher latency conditions.
- Item and Spell hoverovers now defaulted to enabled.
- Fixed a bug allowing special formatting commands in chat.
- Immortal item will now be awarded automatically every Wednesday at midnight.
- Added 12 new action buttons above the battle bar.
- Arcane Powder now drops off additional mobs.
- Fixed a bug allowing players to equip more than one item in the same slot.
- Music and ambient sounds have been restored.

Spells
- Added new green spell "Taunt". It can be located at the Tulorn vendor.
- Force of Earth aggro bonus reduced to 100%.
- Reduced the effect of diminishing returns on blue stuns.
- Base chance for players of equal level to resist spells reduced from 4% to 3%.

Pets
- Fixed a bug allowing pets to avoid attacking each other if the owner used the retreat command.

Point Store
- Added an additional rank of Improved Holy Shield.

Alternate Advancement
- Added new general ability: "Dominance", reduces damage taken from pets by 25% for 10 seconds (10 minute cooldown).
- Added new general ability: "Induction", reduces the chance of your spells being resisted by 1% per rank (Max rank 3).
- Undying now works as intended.
- Escape now cancels root and blind effects.
- Abandon can now be cast while in combat.
- Cheat down now works as intended. Chance of cheating death increased to 2%.
- Abate now works as intended.

Diamond City
- Added 5 new raid bosses!
- All new challenging encounters with special loot, and new spell runes!

Lightscythe
- Health and damage of champion mobs over level 48 reduced.

[danosz]

is there a list of the new spell runes and finally a new patch been way to long

[Paladin016]

lol lightscythe? reduced mobs? they have no trouble with pvp so it should really be increased and more exp...

[andylord]

This is good news :)

[willeo]

Little late on the Taunt spell, most anks hav no problem holding aggro now. Everything else looks petty decent tho~


Oh, and you could fix the AA Undying too plz~ =P

[KingApocalypse]

woooot patch xD

damn cant wait for the new spells and items!

[Torax]

Little late on the Taunt spell, most anks hav no problem holding aggro now. Everything else looks petty decent tho~


Oh, and you could fix the AA Undying too plz~ =P

Forgot to add to the notes, FoE aggro bonus is being reduced to 100% to compensate. Some of the new raid encounters will require multiple tanks using their taunt abilities in sync.

Can you explain the problem with Undying?

[loster369]

Can you explain the problem with Undying?

The problem is that the dmg isn't reduced at all :P

[willeo]

http://forums.rampidgaming.com/showthread.php?t=14936

All explained this thread here~ =P

[Torax]

Thanks, I'll be sure that gets fixed.

[JoeDefoe]

Nice to see new stuff. Any news on runtime fixing?

[Torax]

Sorry, no progress on the runtime issue. If we can grow the userbase, it might be something we can dedicate the resources to fixing.

[stigmata]

well atleast its good to see there's gonne be some stuff done again! and perhaps depending on what's upcoming the userbase will grow again..

[Sir Ken]

Lightscythe
- Health and damage of champion mobs over level 48 reduced.

Not sure this is required, some of us can solo level 52 cc mobs, so most should be able to cope with the level 48-50. if not group with another player that needs to kill them.

[Fogg]

There are some other AA's that are not working properly also.

-Escape- Does not remove blind effect. (possible root as well, cant remember)

-Abandon- Requires 10 sec cast and cant cast in combat, also this AA randomly disappears from spell book, requirement you to re-buy if. (just don't understand how does a 10 sec cast to "abandon" a fight make sense, on top of the fact you cant cast in combat)

-Cheat Death-Have never seen this effect happen since it was released(surly a 1% chance should of been noticed since then?)

-Undying-mentioned already

-Abate-Not sure if this works properly either, only tested a few times, didn't notice any effect (has anyone tested this more extensively to see?)

However, most people would just care about escape I would think, since nearly everyone has that one.

[Crow]

You should put some mobs in ss to drops Arcane Powders, there is just one place in game where you can get them(not counting raid zones), there are no champs that drops Arcane Powders just simple mobs, ill personaly like beetles to drops em, but it realy isnt that important wich mob, it just need to be champ.

[yneos]

1% is so low of an odd that it could be a few hundred deaths before you get it once :/

[KingApocalypse]

Well i got a suggestion about the immortals. We would like to see the damage we've done on the immortal page like the good old days.

Can you take a look at that please Torax? Thanks!

[KingApocalypse]

You should put some mobs in ss to drops Arcane Powders, there is just one place in game where you can get them(not counting raid zones), there are no champs that drops Arcane Powders just simple mobs, ill personaly like beetles to drops em, but it realy isnt that important wich mob, it just need to be champ.

True also...there are a few mobs that drop it. Same counts for the Strange prisms.

[Crow]

I will also like to know will you add immortal damage on site for pve server?

[Vampiric_Lord]

You should put some mobs in ss to drops Arcane Powders, there is just one place in game where you can get them(not counting raid zones), there are no champs that drops Arcane Powders just simple mobs, ill personaly like beetles to drops em, but it realy isnt that important wich mob, it just need to be champ.

God YES. Any blue reagents I use while grinding results in a loss, which means I then have to farm them in a different zone for 0 experience. Unlike all other reagents.

Well i got a suggestion about the immortals. We would like to see the damage we've done on the immortal page like the good old days.

Updated Top 100 too?

[Fogg]

1% is so low of an odd that it could be a few hundred deaths before you get it once :/

Yes I know, and I also understand that the 1% doesn't mean that you will get it once per 100 deaths on the dot. However, I'm a red/blue in pure caster and die alot, lol. I think by now the months and months its been out, and the countless deaths it should have at least been noticeable somewhat. Which makes me lead to the fact its broken, since I have never heard anyone else say they have seen it either. Maybe fix it and/or up the percentage? :p

[Caboman]

i have it and never worked

[yneos]

the problem with being red is you probably woudln't even notice it work unless its a 1 on 1. i doubt anything special happens probably just goes full HP > 1HP > 10% HP > death which all of that can be gone VERY fast.

and i think for a 1% chance to work on the near 100% is like 1 in 400 :/ (not exactly sure <.<)

[bmlsoccer12]

finally. something to look forward to

[A projectile]

also if u can bring back the crowns i miss those. pve still has crowns so why dosnt pvp?

[The-Almighty]

Well thats good that a new patch with things that are actually good coming out. Basic fixes, a few new things here and there. Still need to fix other bugs but at least this is a step in the right direction.

[danosz]

i agree 1 step for mankind and 1/2 step for cop :d

[spiker8420]

Spells
- Added new green spell "Taunt". It can be located at the Tulorn vendor.
- Force of Earth aggro bonus reduced to 100%.

Diamond City
- Added 5 new raid bosses!
- All new challenging encounters with special loot, and new spell runes!

First, question. Are these new bosses actually going to be located in diamond city? You can see how this might be a problem since the thing has been green boxing out for the last few months, so I hope these new coming mobs are actually in a different zone

And second I don't mind new spells especially if it makes tanking more interesting but I have 0 spots left on battlebar/sidebar. I have resorted to casting buffs from spell book. So please add some more slots somewhere if its not too much to ask....

[willeo]

First, question. Are these new bosses actually going to be located in diamond city? You can see how this might be a problem since the thing has been green boxing out for the last few months, so I hope these new coming mobs are actually in a different zone

And second I don't mind new spells especially if it makes tanking more interesting but I have 0 spots left on battlebar/sidebar. I have resorted to casting buffs from spell book. So please add some more slots somewhere if its not too much to ask....

OOoo, good one spike, forgot about that lol

Yes, plz plz plz plz plz pleaaaaaaseeee Torax, make a secondary bb or more room lol. I too have to resort from casting buffs from the spellbook which doesn't bother me but i absolutly have NO room to add more spells or clickies. I only keep my Jboots on the sidebar and my other boots in the backpack and i i don't even have my 3 clickies i use for the buffs. Which brings to another really good point, why do the clickies have 30min CDs? lol, makes no sense either~

[bmlsoccer12]

And second I don't mind new spells especially if it makes tanking more interesting but I have 0 spots left on battlebar/sidebar. I have resorted to casting buffs from spell book. So please add some more slots somewhere if its not too much to ask....

new slots would be really nice...

[zizban]

I add to the request for Arcane Powder in another area. One place for Arcane Powder truly bites.

[TechnoDestructo]

So please add some more slots somewhere if its not too much to ask....

Meh they added the 'mod program' for you guys to do this sorta stuff. I added buttons above my battlebar ages ago...

two are secret for suspense!

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6964/barb2.jpg

[chipper7417]

- Added 12 new action buttons above the battle bar.


yay finally

[Vampiric_Lord]

Meh they added the 'mod program' for you guys to do this sorta stuff. I added buttons above my battlebar ages ago...

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6964/barb2.jpg

Some of us don't have mad computer skills :(

Care to share? lol

I also wish to move the AA percentage bar to your location, lol

[Vampiric_Lord]

- Added 12 new action buttons above the battle bar.


yay finally

I swear that wasn't written when I started mine lol

[The-Almighty]

Meh they added the 'mod program' for you guys to do this sorta stuff. I added buttons above my battlebar ages ago...

two are secret for suspense!

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6964/barb2.jpg

whats the spelling next to the Envenom and the heal pet? it has the teeth lol

[sliceyndicey]

Meh they added the 'mod program' for you guys to do this sorta stuff. I added buttons above my battlebar ages ago...

two are secret for suspense!

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6964/barb2.jpg

SEX!!! do tell one how to do.

[TechnoDestructo]

whats the spelling next to the Envenom and the heal pet? it has the teeth lol

the contigapeoria#%iofjas (spelling?) shadow spell from cc10

[andylord]

Some of us don't have mad computer skills :(

Care to share? lol

I also wish to move the AA percentage bar to your location, lol

Chnage your gui code by opening it in notepad and change the last 4 positions numbers to something like

23, 100
First number corresponds to left/right
second number corresponds to up/down
which puts it under your bb

[bluemirage]

TORAX IS it asking 4 too much, if in the new 12 slots u are gona add one for pets?

Coze if ur a white/green or white/ black for exemple mu dont have to go through ur book to take them out all the time?

Not asking to be able to cast 3 pets, just to have 11 normal slots and the 12th for pets

[KingApocalypse]

TORAX IS it asking 4 too much, if in the new 12 slots u are gona add one for pets?

Coze if ur a white/green or white/ black for exemple mu dont have to go through ur book to take them out all the time?

Not asking to be able to cast 3 pets, just to have 11 normal slots and the 12th for pets

You confused me....what are you asking now? ;/

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

no trade when the Intel orb is tradable? A reasonable thing to do would b to prevent a player from having both orbs, to do a reset quest to every player that has done it, and make both notradable.
If that's what u intended. So we all have to restart the quest and only get one of them, many of us have both.

[Vampiric_Lord]

Chnage your gui code by opening it in notepad and change the last 4 positions numbers to something like

23, 100
First number corresponds to left/right
second number corresponds to up/down
which puts it under your bb

It took me this long to even open it, and I am completely lost. I shall give up here and await a modified version to be uploaded lol

But thank you :)

[Vampiric_Lord]

TORAX IS it asking 4 too much, if in the new 12 slots u are gona add one for pets?

Coze if ur a white/green or white/ black for exemple mu dont have to go through ur book to take them out all the time?

Not asking to be able to cast 3 pets, just to have 11 normal slots and the 12th for pets

Sounds stupid, please don't do this.

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

It took me this long to even open it, and I am completely lost. I shall give up here and await a modified version to be uploaded lol

But thank you :)

Make it with instruction like in the pizza pockets for instance.

Instruction 1 : read the instructions
Instruction 2 : please remove pizza from the package before trying to cooked it......

and so on


This is why kids u should stay in school.

[Vampiric_Lord]

Make it with instruction like in the pizza pockets for instance.

Instruction 1 : read the instructions
Instruction 2 : please remove pizza from the package before trying to cooked it......

and so on


This is why kids u should stay in school.

LOL you're a retard. I'm not great on computers, but you're just an absolute idiot.

[andylord]

It took me this long to even open it, and I am completely lost. I shall give up here and await a modified version to be uploaded lol

But thank you :)

added in attachment

[Vampiric_Lord]

added in attachment

Hero! Thanks <3

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

don't forget to turn the power on before using a computer or laptop.

lololololololol


P.S This msg is for the failed brit aka vampiricnub lol

[Vampiric_Lord]

don't forget to turn the power on before using a computer or laptop.

lololololololol


P.S This msg is for the failed brit aka vampiricnub lol

Every time you type on the forum (or in-game to be fair) you announce your idiocy to the world.

It's a shame your line "we can c who's the retarded here lol" was not quoted too.

Please, continue.

[BusIzWicked]

back on topic, i'd REALLY like to see the resist issue fixed... i have low myst compared to most, BUT regular ass mobs shouldnt resist 3 etd's in a row..

[xShinOrochix]

- Added 12 new action buttons above the battle bar.



FTW!!!!! :D

[willeo]

Torax is slowly creepin up on my good side lol~

[spiker8420]

anyone wanna take a bet when the patch will come out? Im shooting for saturday the 30th

[DeathStalker908]

Torax is slowly creepin up on my good side lol~

You have no idea homo that sounds.



Anyways, there's a reason why I favor Torax..he gets things done.

[yneos]

anyone wanna take a bet when the patch will come out? Im shooting for saturday the 30th

don't you mean Saturday the 25th?

TORAX IS it asking 4 too much, if in the new 12 slots u are gona add one for pets?

Coze if ur a white/green or white/ black for exemple mu dont have to go through ur book to take them out all the time?

Not asking to be able to cast 3 pets, just to have 11 normal slots and the 12th for pets

my idea on this post is that if there are 12 new slots added, can one of them be used for pets as a backup slot. obviously not able to have 3 pets out, but say your NP dies, you could have a dragon in your spare slot and use your dragon with out going though book.

[monaro]

ok most of this sounds all good, but what about the final aa's also right now greens run the game and u just made them even better with fixing undying or w/e when there pets already are hard to kill. seriously ka can stand still and hsi pets pretty much solo me when he mags it. u ****ed blue up with all the immune shit and lowering its stun time. u nerf fw which is ok , the only reason it was mentioned to nerf fw was cause it kiled pets way to easy and now pets can get up to 12khp? and they can recall tehr pets and send them back on us which makes ours useless. im not sure its just pets that are OP. greens in general are a bit OP. and the combo black green is insane. something needs to be done about this. when the other combos were op u nerfed us now its tehre turn.

[BusIzWicked]

"nerfed" how bout we stop nerfing everything and find a BALANCE........ thats what we need.

[DeathStalker908]

"nerfed" how bout we stop nerfing everything and find a BALANCE........ thats what we need.

Correct. But we cannot find a balance if we NERF an OP skill and then change a bad skill to an OP one at the same time. To find a balance, you're supposed to do one of the two (preferably nerfing the OP skill so it balances it out with the average spell) and continue making adjustments with the new change until it's just about right. This is why weekly patches are so effective; the game stays up-to-date and eventually the classes will balance out. Of course, nothing will be perfect, but it is possible to achieve a point where class balance is one of the last concerns of the players.

[Bignate]

omega brings up a good point. With undying being fixed, can you please fix the pet retreat and resend. Also i was told that blue pets were originally suppose to bypass other pets and attack the target. If this is indeed the case, can you fix that as well.


Also as a side, can you please fix the ability to stack items. I am not sure how its fully done, I've heard two different things. 1 being when your bugged to equip the gear, and the 2nd to do it at exp turn or lag/GB. If these are indeed the case I am unsure but its an idea to go off of.
Also speaking of being bugged, around 4:58 am eastern time, the entirety of pvp server gets bugged. When closing out to reset, you are unable to relog until 5:03-5:05 am.



One more edit. Torax, can you add in the current addons that players have made into the actual game, and keep a regular update of them as they expand?

[stigmata]

i like the thing brought up a bit earlier about adding the addons like exp counter, AA counter bar etc into a patch..would be nice.

also maybe it would be a nice thing if there comes a new topic, where we can put like most of the game ideas brought up in the past few months.. so that they can easily look into it, and maybe develop some new content for us..

[willeo]

ok most of this sounds all good, but what about the final aa's also right now greens run the game and u just made them even better with fixing undying or w/e when there pets already are hard to kill. seriously ka can stand still and hsi pets pretty much solo me when he mags it. u ****ed blue up with all the immune shit and lowering its stun time. u nerf fw which is ok , the only reason it was mentioned to nerf fw was cause it kiled pets way to easy and now pets can get up to 12khp? and they can recall tehr pets and send them back on us which makes ours useless. im not sure its just pets that are OP. greens in general are a bit OP. and the combo black green is insane. something needs to be done about this. when the other combos were op u nerfed us now its tehre turn.

Yea red/bue is just horrible now lol, Omega can't even beat me without pets let alone when i use them. I do agree that the pet retreat thing should be fixed not that i agree with it but that Fero said along time ago that it was infact a bug so it should be fixed but i do think you shold put a little bit longer cd on the instant cast pets because if i go for someone's instant cast pets they don't have to wait that much longr to just recast making my pets usless too lol~

[chipper7417]

- Added 12 new action buttons above the battle bar.
- Arcane Powder now drops off additional mobs.

- Undying now works as intended.
- Escape now cancels root and blind effects.
- Abandon can now be cast while in combat.
- Cheat down now works as intended. Chance of cheating death increased to 2%.
- Abate now works as intended.



this is awesome, someone actually reading the forums and listening!

[Vampiric_Lord]

- Arcane Powder now drops off additional mobs.


Awesome! Now I won't feel guilty using Powders to grind!

[KingApocalypse]

Thanks, I'll be sure that gets fixed.

Thanks alot for the fixes Torax. You are the man! You actually really listen to us!

Torax for President!

[KingApocalypse]

About the relic....i was thinking....

Moving the boss further into dt wont be a solution at all...people will camp multies at certain spots and fck up each other again as usual. Then the next one will login and port others....while the others port in he will go suicide on a mob so the others die again.

Relic should be a world drop in DT....that way neither of the sides will have problems with the agroing crap.

Also i was thinking of reducing the point store prices. I know most will complain that have bought it allready...but that way the balance will return in the game. I have point store upgrades on most of my accs....and i think others should get a chance aswell.
- the items are overpriced while NONE buys them...cc and dt gear are better
- the hair stuff are cheaper in real life....cop points compared to real life money
- 500 pts for mana node = too much
- and so on.....

[willeo]

Question, if root gets to be escaped, does that also count for web too~?


Edit: Also, the camp out addon and portal glitch should be removed/fixed~

The portal glitch is when 2 people in a group, person A opens a portal at one spot, Person B opens one at a gy or somthing. So say when A or B dies, they go thru the portal at the gy. Not sure if they have to be the same port like DC or Tul w/e but you can click the portal at the gy and then click it again you would come back thru the portal that A opened~

Not sure if i explained it right but if i didn't i'm sure someone will correct me lol and the camp addons is pretty self explainatory. It's just some code that these crazy kids make these days were you can basicly camp out while still in aggro even tho you're not suppose to anymore, my suggestion is to get rid of the addons period. Dunno why you would even allow/trust the players like that to be able to code the game for you when it's not their job in the first place lol, no offense........plz don't smite me~ =(

[spiker8420]

don't you mean Saturday the 25th?


its october not september

[Twitch]

Way to go Torax! Finally this game might become lively again, just gotta keep making these fixes and lower some prices.

Another idea as from outwar is when raid bosses are killed points should drop off. This woulod enocourage ppl to play the game to the full extent instead of just dueling all day.

And here is another idea...maybe take a poll vote on it...but also as from outwar how about guild upgrades so that even the noob players can have a chance on their own as long as they are in one of the powerful upgraded guilds. As in these upgrades id say maybe increase guild members stats intel/myst/stam ect with maybe a max of 50 of each stat to be bought. Just an idea would appreciate some feedback

[Bignate]

Way to go Torax! Finally this game might become lively again, just gotta keep making these fixes and lower some prices.

Another idea as from outwar is when raid bosses are killed points should drop off. This woulod enocourage ppl to play the game to the full extent instead of just dueling all day.

And here is another idea...maybe take a poll vote on it...but also as from outwar how about guild upgrades so that even the noob players can have a chance on their own as long as they are in one of the powerful upgraded guilds. As in these upgrades id say maybe increase guild members stats intel/myst/stam ect with maybe a max of 50 of each stat to be bought. Just an idea would appreciate some feedback

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO not at all, dont ever do it, I do not ever want to see points drop off of raids, or even so much as a way to earn points thru gameplay. Not at all.

[TechnoDestructo]

While we're fixing little broken things...

Can we fix Noxious Sap? The snare effect on the spell doesn't work... :(

(fyi - it appears this spell broke when you guys altered run speed in aggro. i.e. removed the ability for run speed enhances to work in combat)

[Vampiric_Lord]

- Reduced the effect of diminishing returns on blue stuns.



Best thing I have heard so far. :)

Blue is just pointless at the moment, good work!

[Twitch]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO not at all, dont ever do it, I do not ever want to see points drop off of raids, or even so much as a way to earn points thru gameplay. Not at all.

umm..too bad. what are u so scared of? This is a very good way to motivate ppl to raid and also make the game more interesting for many ppl. Also it would promote guilds very nicely because they could more easily help guild members gem gear with the points that they earn from raids. I'm not talking about a mass amount of points, just look at outwar for an example.

[willeo]

Well on DDO they do it as from quests for guilds and they have their own guild ships and what not that you can use to get free buffs etc. Would be cool if they had somthin like that on CoP but with total exp too. Would actually make me want to grind more lol. Also, i would like to see an exp bar for AAs implanted. Yes i know their can be addons but i'd like to see the actual bar for each AA point/points~


Nox sap does need a fix too, totally forgot about that spell lol. I've tested it too and i think the theory is because it was an old spell before they messed with the run speed in attack mode, they didn't update the spell itself to compensate what it should be slower then that of when already in attack mode. So when one casts it on someone it reads it as both in attack mode/sap. Also i don't think it lasts as long as it says or should last like 5-10secs longer or somthin~

[xShinOrochix]

Best thing I have heard so far. :)

Blue is just pointless at the moment, good work!

this coming from the man that beats just about anyone XD o yeah u guys should add the music back too :D nothing i loved more than being afk in dc while listening to the nice dc orchestra in the background or those times i would log in with that theme playing loud as hell... really made me feel it :D

[spiker8420]

Nox sap does need a fix too, totally forgot about that spell lol. I've tested it too and i think the theory is because it was an old spell before they messed with the run speed in attack mode, they didn't update the spell itself to compensate what it should be slower then that of when already in attack mode. So when one casts it on someone it reads it as both in attack mode/sap. Also i don't think it lasts as long as it says or should last like 5-10secs longer or somthin~

Just don't everyone ***** when I can get more swings in b/c you run slower

[yneos]

its october not september

i was talking about December. xD

[Vampiric_Lord]

With resists occuring so frequently, it would make sense to 'Miss' players more frequently with mele swings. Same concept. And with the likes of spike swinging at you it seems fair.

[Crow]

Also, i would like to see an exp bar for AAs implanted. Yes i know their can be addons but i'd like to see the actual bar for each AA point/points~

Dont you see exp bar for each AA point now?

[Bignate]

umm..too bad. what are u so scared of? This is a very good way to motivate ppl to raid and also make the game more interesting for many ppl. Also it would promote guilds very nicely because they could more easily help guild members gem gear with the points that they earn from raids. I'm not talking about a mass amount of points, just look at outwar for an example.

Yes, and adding points to outwar gods, among with making the items playerbound killed the economy. Go farm some regs, go loot some items and sell it. Dont beg for free shit. I did the same thing about a year ago, the realization of the fact this would produce more harm then good has become more obvious since then.

[DeathStalker908]

The players are actually getting what they wanted! This event brings a tear to my eye.

[willeo]

Another thing is the 10man tears, people are doing more then 1 run in a day, sometimes even up to 5 lol~ Should look into it~ =P



Also, is their going to be new AAs perhaps~? =P

[Crow]

^^ read mine post on page 8

[yneos]

something that is just annoying. under the support ticket page, the next goes OW billing OW greedinc wereas it should be OW billing COP greedinc

[bmlsoccer12]

this coming from the man that beats just about anyone XD o yeah u guys should add the music back too :D nothing i loved more than being afk in dc while listening to the nice dc orchestra in the background or those times i would log in with that theme playing loud as hell... really made me feel it :D

music! yeah!

[monaro]

like hax said he beat me without his pets even so im not sure whats going on with what. with whats OP and everything. even spik without his pets beat me even after i use all my mana use my aa's energize full vigor and i explode everything i have didnt even get close. it may not be them exactly overpowered could just be blue SUCKING. it is good to hear reduced the dimsdlkagjas w/e on our stuns maybe that will help some. and i agree if u guys will Plz fix the pet retreat and sending it back on players that all cast pets should have a higher cooldown.

i honestly think it was a number of things that made green how it is Hiber(not saying it should be removed greens needed that), all those group cc buffs the hp % from aa's and there AA's that are ALONE for whtie and green pets. then u have spirit link that problems been around for a long time. and like trauma said red blue atm REALLY SUCKS. i dont have multis and refuse to make multis like everyoen else i play one account my account and all the work put into it makes me feel like i wasted my time grinding upgradeing and everything.

and finally techno I WANT THAT THING U HAVE.

[BusIzWicked]

i think black/blue sucks worse then red/blue to =\.. and i dont wanna hear comments about how its just me suckin cuz i've seen red/blues go agianst fully geared black/blues and still win.. red's can spam instants all day and black/blue's cant heal cuz of the 1.5 cast, imo black/blue is worse then red/blue for pvp.


EDIT: something that would help out everyone in general would be the constant resists, can you look into that torax?

[moosier89]

i wanna see the kill count work again where when you die or zone they dont get reset and some new and some of the old achievement work or put in

[monaro]

ya blue black sucks to but atleast u guys have syphon :P

[BusIzWicked]

that has a 1.5 second cast.. try casting that while you dodge around me casting 4 red instants and 2 blue ones

[monaro]

ya but when u manage to get a syphon off it heals ur more then even my blazo hits

[Crow]

good! red can deal with good! tanker, whats stoping him to deal with black caster?

[stigmata]

Music and ambient sounds have been restored.

omg... i'm so excited to hear the music again while loading the game...first time i load after patch im just gonna load the game over and over again...and put my volume like to the max o.O and grab a nice drink and sit back...

lol seriously it brings back the old feeeeling :p

[stigmata]

how about making a grind zone?? can u look into that..
just a zone without pvp, and tons of mobs or so spread over it to grind grind grind..

u can also make a nice quest in it like kill an x ammount of a mob to get some sort of exp potion..

[TechnoDestructo]

how about making a grind zone?? can u look into that..
just a zone without pvp, and tons of mobs or so spread over it to grind grind grind..

rofl wat? play on pve lol

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

Music and ambient sounds have been restored.

omg... i'm so excited to hear the music again while loading the game...first time i load after patch im just gonna load the game over and over again...and put my volume like to the max o.O and grab a nice drink and sit back...

lol seriously it brings back the old feeeeling :p


Seriously stigmata? It doesnt take much to make u happy:cool:

[stigmata]

rofl wat? play on pve lol
yeh and loose all upgrades i bought on my account etc? not everyone is pvping all day...

[stigmata]

Seriously stigmata? It doesnt take much to make u happy:cool:
yeh im a happy person :D

[chipper7417]

this is starting to look like a big wishlist. Sure hope it doesnt take 8 months to implement.

[Bignate]

These are tentative patch notes and will likely be updated before the patch is finalized.


Alternate Advancement
- Added new general ability: "Dominance", reduces damage taken from pets for 10 seconds (10 minute cooldown).
.

What is the actual reduction on this? If its to much its gunna make pets useless in pvp altogether, and we dont need that either.

Coming from a red blue.


Honestly if u fixed pet retreat and resend, other colors can use there pets to counter the green ones, thus eliminating all pet problems at once.



and omega, wtf. How do you and me actual agree on something, actually like 4 things, I never thought I would see the day.

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

Keep it up, as by fixing the bug that allowed to stack gear , hope that it means that those who already are wearing the staked gear, will have it removed.

Also any new improves in whites? coze green got boosted , red , now blue. Can u add a new attack spell in whites? or make smite hit harder?

[Vampiric_Lord]

Keep it up, as by fixing the bug that allowed to stack gear , hope that it means that those who already are wearing the staked gear, will have it removed.

Also any new improves in whites? coze green got busted , red , now blue. Can u add a new attack spell in whites? or make smite hit harder?

Lol. Not much else to say to that.

[TechnoDestructo]

Also any new improves in whites? coze green got boosted , red , now blue. Can u add a new attack spell in whites? or make smite hit harder?

you're a healer! heal!

[willeo]

Yea, i never got why some healers ***** about why their offensive spells suck so much lol. Apperently they don't belive in pros and cons of the game~

[Bignate]

torax, can u please either fix these damn resists, or remove to ability to straight resist from the game. I am so sick of having fights decided because every other spell gets resisted.

[Fabar]

this is starting to look like a big wishlist. Sure hope it doesnt take 8 months to implement.

Everything listed in the patch notes in the first post of this thread has already been coded and implemented. As far as everyone's suggestions for this patch, unfortunately we won't be able to get everyone's ideas and suggestions in.

[spiker8420]

Keep it up, as by fixing the bug that allowed to stack gear , hope that it means that those who already are wearing the staked gear, will have it removed.

Also any new improves in whites? coze green got boosted , red , now blue. Can u add a new attack spell in whites? or make smite hit harder?

To be fair white gets ****ed with ps upgrade. You absorb an extra 200 dmg. Reds get a boost for blazo, blacks get uber upgrade from ss, blues even get a better adv for one for their few attack spells, and greens get 15% more dmg from pets... White gets ****ed, however, I can see why people might see differently with the sl bug.

And one of the admins said there wont be an upgrade for smite, it would op the class... although another attack might not be the end of the world =/

[Fabar]

To be fair white gets ****ed with ps upgrade. You absorb an extra 200 dmg. Reds get a boost for blazo, blacks get uber upgrade from ss, blues even get a better adv for one for their few attack spells, and greens get 15% more dmg from pets... White gets ****ed, however, I can see why people might see differently with the sl bug.

And one of the admins said there wont be an upgrade for smite, it would op the class... although another attack might not be the end of the world =/

We'll look into white, however I feel its one of the more balanced schools. Its not meant to be an offensive school, its meant to be a defensive school.

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

To be fair white gets ****ed with ps upgrade. You absorb an extra 200 dmg. Reds get a boost for blazo, blacks get uber upgrade from ss, blues even get a better adv for one for their few attack spells, and greens get 15% more dmg from pets... White gets ****ed, however, I can see why people might see differently with the sl bug.

And one of the admins said there wont be an upgrade for smite, it would op the class... although another attack might not be the end of the world =/

it takes another white to understand what whites have to deal with.

and ty fabar for taking this into consideration

[KingApocalypse]

We'll look into white, however I feel its one of the more balanced schools. Its not meant to be an offensive school, its meant to be a defensive school.

Fabar white is good as it is. I can do 4k smites on my healer. A white with resist is like impossible to kill. Especially when you add stronger pets (hp wise) and with the spirit link + 50% less damage taken = not enough? LOL

They are cry babies...just give them a button so they can kill anything with 1 click...hopefully that will satisfy them.

[chipper7417]

Everything listed in the patch notes in the first post of this thread has already been coded and implemented. As far as everyone's suggestions for this patch, unfortunately we won't be able to get everyone's ideas and suggestions in.

that is what i figured, which is why maybe putting all these new ideas into the patch notes can be misleading. I would suggest keeping the original patch notes, and then making a 'future fixes' post, just so people dont go berserk when this whole laundry list isnt implemented in the next patch.

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

Fabar white is good as it is. I can do 4k smites on my healer. A white with resist is like impossible to kill. Especially when you add stronger pets (hp wise) and with the spirit link + 50% less damage taken = not enough? LOL

They are cry babies...just give them a button so they can kill anything with 1 click...hopefully that will satisfy them.

And white is not his main, so plz listen to people that have white /black or white /green in their main colors and have invested in those, so they dont have to switch around all the time and play in their favorites characters.

[monaro]

spik what more do u want the to do for ur class lol u alreadyonly have to sit back and melee smeone to win anything. (question who is bignate)
Added new general ability: "Dominance", reduces damage taken from pets by 25% for 10 seconds (10 minute cooldown).
ok ya thanks for trying to do something but its not just PETS that are unstopable. for 10 seconds we take a lil less dmg great. ITS ONLY 10 seconds forget that waste of time like i said these greens are beating people without even using there pets its tere whle class togeher or something u guys need toget on this weekend and watch behind dc bank were alot of duels take place and u will see forurself how troubleing it is to beat any green. i use to beable to beat anyone and everyone on the game onlya select few were able to bet me 50/50 in duels. now i couldnt even rank myselfin the top 15 yet alone top 20 in pvp. every single green stomps me even a 2-3 g tank beat me the other day and im fully upgrded best gear 4gs. and back whites in black gear seem to be troubleing to ( spirit link)

[monaro]

and i dont see anthing wrong with white u guys can hit up to 6k heals, 4k smites, have spirit link have AA's for ur healing pets now. first time i seen anyone say anyting about white lol. i agree with fabar whites one of the most balanced colors. and *****cat ur set ur main to be a healer and claim to be the best healer on the game now whats wrong?

[KingApocalypse]

And white is not his main, so plz listen to people that have white /black or white /green in their main colors and have invested in those, so they dont have to switch around all the time and play in their favorites characters.

I have experience on all combos...so i know what im talking about. Yes i have them all on my rga's.

I have a black/white and a white/green. Its not only spells that make you a good PvP'er or PvE'er.

PvE wise= green/white is the best for this combo to be honest....i can solo all cc5 mobs. I dont need healer for certain bosses there even. Its bullsht that you bring up this combo into your problem first of all.

And as a white/black. You can kill so fast....i feel bad about posting it up here but i will do it to show that you are wrong. In blakc gear...im not going into this...just cast pestilence and tag like 4-5 sapper mobs...you can do that easly...syphon will heal you and you got the white pets as backup + BFA....
In white gear its still easy....you can smite for like 2k no crit and 4k with crit. You can healing light, holy shield, mute and BFA...which you all can use in PvE and PvP.

If you want some lessons...feel free to whisper me on cop....i will teach you how to handle your own main account.

[Torax]

Just to clarify, everything you see in the current patch notes is already completed. We expect the patch to be released within a week.

[JoeDefoe]

Just to clarify, everything you see in the current patch notes is already completed. We expect the patch to be released within a week.

Its like.. i almost cant believe it 0o

[Fogg]

I know a lot of people will argue against this, but this is just the way I see it. The whole point of adding hibernate in game was to stop the greens (who rely on pets for the majority of there damage) from loosing there pets due to FW spam. You buffed pets a crazy amount through AA's, and also added a CD to FW, basically having 3 fixes to the same issue. I never liked how hibernate was meant to be a defensive spell, and is mainly used offensively. An example would be a Black/Green uses hibernate then convert's there full Mana back taking no damage.

So what I'm thinking is, make it so that while hibernate is on a player, make it so that player cannot cast any spells. So it is more of a "hibernate" and not a god mode button. Yes I know people will say you can still stun/mute/blind etc, however, I think it would still be a fair trade off to take no damage, if at the same time you deal no damage.

Everyone knows greens are OP now, even without pets, so don't try and say otherwise, this spell being apart of that OP'ness, not all, but adding to it.

*Not sure if this will start a discussion, just wanted to see if this could be included in patch, if a lot oppose it, maybe make a thread about it so we don't spam this one.

[KingApocalypse]

Just to clarify, everything you see in the current patch notes is already completed. We expect the patch to be released within a week.

Your my angel 0_o

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

I have experience on all combos...so i know what im talking about. Yes i have them all on my rga's.

I have a black/white and a white/green. Its not only spells that make you a good PvP'er or PvE'er.

PvE wise= green/white is the best for this combo to be honest....i can solo all cc5 mobs. I dont need healer for certain bosses there even. Its bullsht that you bring up this combo into your problem first of all.

And as a white/black. You can kill so fast....i feel bad about posting it up here but i will do it to show that you are wrong. In blakc gear...im not going into this...just cast pestilence and tag like 4-5 sapper mobs...you can do that easly...syphon will heal you and you got the white pets as backup + BFA....
In white gear its still easy....you can smite for like 2k no crit and 4k with crit. You can healing light, holy shield, mute and BFA...which you all can use in PvE and PvP.

If you want some lessons...feel free to whisper me on cop....i will teach you how to handle your own main account.


And if i talked about green/white its because the best white/green on the game aka spike agrees that another hitting spell would b nice.
As for my char being built to be a healer not really , it was built to b half /half.

[KingApocalypse]

And if i talked about green/white its because the best white/green on the game aka spike agrees that another hitting spell would b nice.
As for my char being built to be a healer not really , it was built to b half /half.

What else does a white/green need? I just beat DarkRaven in a duel on mine. You have to melee and time your stun (mute) and purify the negs when possible. If a white/green goes for a smite or gaes lightling....that would be STUPID and IDIOTIC. Envenom and inquision are fine. I agree that inquising should be 2 or 3 white mana and not 4.

[willeo]

To be fair white gets ****ed with ps upgrade. You absorb an extra 200 dmg. Reds get a boost for blazo, blacks get uber upgrade from ss, blues even get a better adv for one for their few attack spells, and greens get 15% more dmg from pets... White gets ****ed, however, I can see why people might see differently with the sl bug.

And one of the admins said there wont be an upgrade for smite, it would op the class... although another attack might not be the end of the world =/ What "other" attacks would you suggest then? I'd like to hear this lol~

I know a lot of people will argue against this, but this is just the way I see it. The whole point of adding hibernate in game was to stop the greens (who rely on pets for the majority of there damage) from loosing there pets due to FW spam. You buffed pets a crazy amount through AA's, and also added a CD to FW, basically having 3 fixes to the same issue. I never liked how hibernate was meant to be a defensive spell, and is mainly used offensively. An example would be a Black/Green uses hibernate then convert's there full Mana back taking no damage.

So what I'm thinking is, make it so that while hibernate is on a player, make it so that player cannot cast any spells. So it is more of a "hibernate" and not a god mode button. Yes I know people will say you can still stun/mute/blind etc, however, I think it would still be a fair trade off to take no damage, if at the same time you deal no damage.

Everyone knows greens are OP now, even without pets, so don't try and say otherwise, this spell being apart of that OP'ness, not all, but adding to it.

*Not sure if this will start a discussion, just wanted to see if this could be included in patch, if a lot oppose it, maybe make a thread about it so we don't spam this one.

Take hibernate away, idc lol. It is OPd now that you mentioned it. I feel like i could live with or without it because i only use it to try and block a writhe or when dumbasses use evocation at the start of a duel lol~ It's good to use during DC war too when you gotta jump back in safe in time and you happen to get webed by someone too~

[SuperJordan]

can we get a map, more people on friends list? thanks

[willeo]

can we get a map, more people on friends list? thanks

A map? Seriously? A map?~

Thats the best suggestion you could come up with~? A map???

Edit, and how many friends do you need on CoP? lol Just go /who all and you can prolly find them without even having to scroll lol~



A map? Really~?

[Crow]

A map? Seriously? A map?~

Thats the best suggestion you could come up with~? A map???

Edit, and how many friends do you need on CoP? lol Just go /who all and you can prolly find them without even having to scroll lol~



A map? Really~?

What is your problem here? Will the map or more people on friend list hurt your filings or what?

[Bignate]

What is your problem here? Will the map or more people on friend list hurt your filings or what?

are alot more important things then a map. I wouldnt mind an actual friends list as i know i have people on mine i cant remember that dont login anymore. But a map is completely pointless. You have to be a dumbass to not know these maps by heart.


and


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[willeo]

What is your problem here? Will the map or more people on friend list hurt your filings or what?

No, but people who can't spell FEELINGS hurt them~

Stupid foreigners~ =P


Like Nate said, no need for maps and i really don't see the need for upgraded friends list when the player base is this low lol~ I mean....Cmon, a map? Really~?

[yneos]

And as a white/black. You can kill so fast....i feel bad about posting it up here but i will do it to show that you are wrong..


your on crack lol. white/black doesn't "kill so fast" spikedra kills at the same speed as me and he's melee. my 2-2.5k smites every 2sec is fairly slow <.< red is what kills so fast lol

[Crow]

what is more important then make all those who are new to have all they need so they keep plaing?
Dont you all whine that player base is low?
And then when someone ask for map(I assume he is new to game) you dump shit loads on him.

[yneos]

he's not new.

[spiker8420]

We'll look into white, however I feel its one of the more balanced schools. Its not meant to be an offensive school, its meant to be a defensive school.

That's fine. I dont expect an upgrade offence wise but besides bfa and buffs, what do whites use? Anyway I just mean the point store upgrade. At least increase the amount it absorbs. A bfa heals for more than the shield protects....

[xShinOrochix]

That's fine. I dont expect an upgrade offence wise but besides bfa and buffs, what do whites use? Anyway I just mean the point store upgrade. At least increase the amount it absorbs. A bfa heals for more than the shield protects....

killing a white/black is pretty much impossible if u dont have red as part of ur combo or arent fully gemmed, especially if there made up of white gear ... it really doesnt need buffing any white/black if he has skill and a good set can outheal and then slowly kill u down afterward im just sayin and awesome to hear the musics gonna be back :D

[Vampiric_Lord]

Can u add a new attack spell in whites? or make smite hit harder?

Smite hits harder than Bluvicars Blast. Blue is a joke offensively and you want to buff up a healers offence?



Point Store
- Added an additional rank of Improved Holy Shield.


PCD is an idiot to be frank. White does not need any buffing. With this upgrade, Holy Shield will absorb 1k damage? As soon as a white decks on resist gear, I (blue) cant even hit 1k to break the shield.


Especially for a black/white, this upgrade is far too 'OP'. Holy Shield (and even Sacred Chest buff) then convert is an effective technique, and with Holy Shield absorbing even more damage, reduced further with Spirit Link means free converts and free mana.

Red/white Vs red/blue. Red/white always wins, and this upgrade will just reinforce this fact.

Also with the likes of Spike, a resist tank, fights are long. Multiple Holy Shields will be used and he simply will never die. A point I made earlier that no one seemed to take note of is the fact that tank swings hit as hard as any spell. Considering how fast swings are compared to cast time. 2 crit swings can do 4k damage, same as a blazo. Only difference is;
spells resist so frequently, whereas swings rarely miss. And I did test this before I made this post. Out of 80 swings, 2 missed. Tried with different accounts, 1 missed out of 65. It is common to get 3 resists in a row, lol. Having a tank smack you constantly is just too much. They can easily do 5k damage to a player as the circle and dodge around someone trying to cast a syphon for example. (which will just end up resisting lol)

[willeo]

your on crack lol. white/black doesn't "kill so fast" spikedra kills at the same speed as me and he's melee. my 2-2.5k smites every 2sec is fairly slow <.< red is what kills so fast lol

Just seen that, yea black/white or white/black is pretty slow when grinding~ It's pretty efficent tho, i'll say that but slow none the less. Not saying it needs to be faster tho either. It's more considerd a healing cass in the end~
what is more important then make all those who are new to have all they need so they keep plaing?
Dont you all whine that player base is low?
And then when someone ask for map(I assume he is new to game) you dump shit loads on him.

Yea, he's not new and i'm pretty sure someone has never quite just because they can't find somthing on their own lol. The thing is, CoP is SMALL an it's pretty simple to find stuff. I'm not goin to say it would or wouldn't but it could also cause more lag or somthing? Either way, CoP doesn't need one and it definitly shouldn't be added in this patch~

[spiker8420]

spik what more do u want the to do for ur class lol u alreadyonly have to sit back and melee smeone to win anything.


People make it seem like i dont do anything lol... Pvp wise i have to take into account everything because I dont have 7k blazo's backing me up. If you ever look in the combat bar (which i do 24/7) you see just how many times my swings get missed or dodged. I have a disadvantage with range and a lack of spell dmg. If im not ontop of you i dont hit u unless my envenom isnt resisted. Because I use my buffs appropriatly I'm good, but u cant just stick someone in gear and have them not suck. Its an easy class to survive in but not kill with.

However, I will agree with pets. They are strong, maybe too strong. However, if u take away magnify, i think they just another buff. Fix pet retreat, which i have never used (Anyone who says all greens use it is naive and ignorant) And I think people will ***** much less.


Also caster problem right now is resist. People have brought it up several times now, its that which makes tanks so storng. Because resists are crazy high

[xShinOrochix]

Also with the likes of Spike, a resist tank, fights are long. Multiple Holy Shields will be used and he simply will never die. A point I made earlier that no one seemed to take note of is the fact that tank swings hit as hard as any spell. Considering how fast swings are compared to cast time. 2 crit swings can do 4k damage, same as a blazo. Only difference is;
spells resist so frequently, whereas swings rarely miss. And I did test this before I made this post. Out of 80 swings, 2 missed. Tried with different accounts, 1 missed out of 65. It is common to get 3 resists in a row, lol. Having a tank smack you constantly is just too much. They can easily do 5k damage to a player as the circle and dodge around someone trying to cast a syphon for example. (which will just end up resisting lol)

Shit time to make a green/white tank xD

[spiker8420]

Smite hits harder than Bluvicars Blast. Blue is a joke offensively and you want to buff up a healers offence?




PCD is an idiot to be frank. White does not need any buffing. With this upgrade, Holy Shield will absorb 1k damage? As soon as a white decks on resist gear, I (blue) cant even hit 1k to break the shield.


Especially for a black/white, this upgrade is far too 'OP'. Holy Shield (and even Sacred Chest buff) then convert is an effective technique, and with Holy Shield absorbing even more damage, reduced further with Spirit Link means free converts and free mana.

Red/white Vs red/blue. Red/white always wins, and this upgrade will just reinforce this fact.

Also with the likes of Spike, a resist tank, fights are long. Multiple Holy Shields will be used and he simply will never die. A point I made earlier that no one seemed to take note of is the fact that tank swings hit as hard as any spell. Considering how fast swings are compared to cast time. 2 crit swings can do 4k damage, same as a blazo. Only difference is;
spells resist so frequently, whereas swings rarely miss. And I did test this before I made this post. Out of 80 swings, 2 missed. Tried with different accounts, 1 missed out of 65. It is common to get 3 resists in a row, lol. Having a tank smack you constantly is just too much. They can easily do 5k damage to a player as the circle and dodge around someone trying to cast a syphon for example. (which will just end up resisting lol)

I know ur at least 3 gemmed with a sc and u cant hit over 1k? Sauro is in black gear and an avg bblast is .8k... I know u hit higher then that bc arde in blue gear ungemmed and out pof fof hits for 1.2k avg

[Vampiric_Lord]

I know ur at least 3 gemmed with a sc and u cant hit over 1k? Sauro is in black gear and an avg bblast is .8k... I know u hit higher then that bc arde in blue gear ungemmed and out pof fof hits for 1.2k avg

I did say as soon as they deck on resist gear.

With a blue sacred, over 1000 intel, max swarm etc, I crit around 2.5k in general. If I'm lucky. Depends who/what I am hitting.

[willeo]

Well actually he's kind of right lol. He's 4th gemd mostly and hits me for 700-1.7k? Give or take depending on the resists peices i'm using at the time~


I still don't know i agree with blue having another damage spell, stun maybe but not adamage one. That mana burn when used constantly and if it lands enough belive it or not does start to hurt my mana~

[DeathStalker908]

Also any new improves in whites? coze green got boosted , red , now blue. Can u add a new attack spell in whites? or make smite hit harder?

Oh yeah, you guys forgot to buff whites. Spirit Link, which is the equivalence to 3-4 resist gear and mitigates physical damage additionally, Mute, a 3-4 second silence which renders any class but green useless until removed, Pets, which give about 2k heal altogether regularly (noncrits), Purify, a quick and efficient way to counter blacks (their damage is cut drastically without debuffs) and reds to an extent (no catalyst; 20% less damage), and a fast (1.4 sec cast; quicker than Life Spike, blazo) and powerful heal SIMPLY ISN'T ENOUGH FOR WHITES TO COMPETE WITH OTHER COMBOS. I mean seriously, whites simply CAN NOT beat black/blues, for example.

Oh wait, I lied. The black/blue will just have all their debuffs purified and will be muted/attacked (dmg is based on white's second class, like Red) until they die. Their Life Spike damage will be reduced significantly when the White/black uses Holy Shield. Oh, and also, that white/black is PCD so the damage will be reduced even more due to "staked" resist gear.


From what I remember, whites can outheal just about any DPS (except for red/green) unless they get CC'd. Even then, they're still a b*tch to kill because their pets will still toss them a heal and Spirit Link is still present.

So, not only can whites heal, CC (even if mute is escaped, it's a nice interrupt), and cleanse (purify), but they can also MITIGATE more damage than GREENS, a TANK class. Green gets Hibernate (OHMYGOD 4SECONDSOFHEAVEN) and Convalesce (OMG10SECONDSOFSLIGHTLYBUTUN-NOTICABLELESSDAMAGE). Nothing else. Spirit Link is permanent unless the pets are killed (blues cant purge it), Convalesce is not.


i can rant on about a billion things but simply put: Fabar, thanks for listening to us for once, but your concerns should lie away from buffing white.

[xShinOrochix]

Well actually he's kind of right lol. He's 4th gemd mostly and hits me for 700-1.7k? Give or take depending on the resists peices i'm using at the time~


I still don't know i agree with blue having another damage spell, stun maybe but not adamage one. That mana burn when used constantly and if it lands enough belive it or not does start to hurt my mana~

that mana burn...=/ i guaranteed i wouldnt be able to cast more than one dueling u and thats if u dont resist =o

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

Get a life and go insult some1 else. this tread is to improve the game not for u to come here and insult other players, If instead of doing so, u would get a job or go to school, maybe u wouldn't have the time to come to the forums and make a fool out of yourself as u always do.

Ty for the shield improvement torax.

And crow the zones that uve worked for in the maps are great so far.cant wait the c them all done.

[DeathStalker908]

Get a life and go insult some1 else. this tread is to improve the game not for u to come here and insult other players, If instead of doing so, u would get a job or go to school, maybe u wouldn't have the time to come to the forums and make a fool out of yourself as u always do.

Ty for the shield improvement torax.

And crow the zones that uve worked for in the maps are great so far.cant wait the c them all done.

How am I insulting you? I was just joking about the gear stacking crap, lighten up. And for your information, I do attend school, and the school I go to happens to be ranked in my state. It takes me 5 minutes tops to make a post like my previous one, and I'm sure ANYONE can adjust their schedule to have an ample amount of time to write on these forums.

I was making a point about white. It doesn't need any buffs

[bmlsoccer12]

Get a life and go insult some1 else. this tread is to improve the game not for u to come here and insult other players, If instead of doing so, u would get a job or go to school, maybe u wouldn't have the time to come to the forums and make a fool out of yourself as u always do.

hes not insulting you hes insulting your idea. and adding things for white would NOT improve the game.. it would make you healers even more OP as it is.

[yneos]

Smite hits harder than Bluvicars Blast. Blue is a joke offensively and you want to buff up a healers offence?


the main difference between the power of the classes, is the instant. i'd much rather have an instant with a CD than non-instant with no cd.

as i said i'd love to see smite more like syphon. wither it be 1.5sec cast .5sec cool down or 1.5sec cast 1.5sec cool down. I also think white should have some type of instant cast heal, not necessarily as hard as BFA, but maybe like 500base damage, and like a 30-45sec cool down.


hes not insulting you hes insulting your idea. and adding things for white would NOT improve the game.. it would make you healers even more OP as it is.

white isn't even OP. it just has a high survivability factor. i mean literally i could catch you back at slag, no monsters up if you ran from me from there, you would make it to the GY easily. The only real people we can kill if we catch them is a ****y person who dont like to admit they are going to lose to a white.


and as for white being able to out heal almost all classes, you are right we can outheal, but as long as it ins't a duel, or someone who is ****y we could never beat them before they get into a GY. and its simple for a blackblue to beat a whiteblack.

[Vampiric_Lord]

this tread is to improve the game

You don't think your ideas through. You think white needs buffing? You're wrong.

You are not improving the game by feeding misinformation to Torax.

[Vampiric_Lord]

I also think white should have some type of instant cast heal, not necessarily as hard as BFA, but maybe like 500base damage, and like a 30-45sec cool down.

Shield + healing Light...

[yneos]

yea healing lgiht will save someone from a death hit.

[DeathStalker908]

yea healing lgiht will save someone from a death hit.

it helps against blacks and people that dont have as much burst DPS as a red. And gj on ignoring the Holy Shield part.

[yneos]

thanks. and yes 684damage is definatly equal to a 500base damage heal.

happy i commented on it now? lol

i bet my superior heal can do more then 684.

[Vampiric_Lord]

thanks. and yes 684damage is definatly equal to a 500base damage heal.

happy i commented on it now? lol

i bet my superior heal can do more then 684.

Well a Holy Shield absorbs 800+ damage, and healing Light can heal 400+ per tick. So yes, that can easily save you.

[yneos]

holy shield absorbs 800+ if its upgraded. its not even worth upgrading for an extra 200 damage. its such a POS amount. 600pts for 200damage lol. 400 damage a tick will not save you from any spell, except a debuff.

[Vampiric_Lord]

holy shield absorbs 800+ if its upgraded. its not even worth upgrading for an extra 200 damage. its such a POS amount. 600pts for 200damage lol. 400 damage a tick will not save you from any spell, except a debuff.

Holy Shield + Healing Light in tandem is awesome.

Maybe you should consider keeping mute on reserve for such an event that is so dire.

[yneos]

yes because its that easy to know exactly who is casting a fireball at who during a PVP war.

and holyshield + healing light is nothing special. so you save yourself from 600damage and get healed for 400, maybe once during the shield its self?

[Fogg]

Also, what about all the missing items from the level 50 sets. There are a lot of CC items that don't exist for certain slots, and resist items as well. Some are in links, but not in game, and others are not in links at all. Was this intended?

[moosier89]

Also, what about all the missing items from the level 50 sets. There are a lot of CC items that don't exist for certain slots, and resist items as well. Some are in links, but not in game, and others are not in links at all. Was this intended?

let them fix all the bugs then worry about the items thats not in game

having it not be all buggy vs having those item be implanted in game i choose having it not buggy glitchy what ever lol

[JoeDefoe]

Can you make it so when you cast hibernate, the shield pops up right away, and not 1 secound after its casted. And make a counter spell for it.

[Bignate]

Only things really left to be added I would really like to see are.


Pet retreat/resend fixed.
Constant chain resists fixed.


Also, it might help alot with all this discussion on white, and green and blue, if you would let us know what the runes are, and there effects. For all we know they may solve the problems, or create new ones.

[BiPolarGod]

can we get a map, more people on friends list? thanks

Omg, Really a map? Do you not watch Dora the explorer? Just say Map..

[BusIzWicked]

- Added new general ability: "Dominance", reduces damage taken from pets by 25% for 10 seconds (10 minute cooldown).

My main concern with pets is being there swings.. kinda makes it hard for you to cast something when they hit you plus the owner hittin you.. i dont think 25% will change the pets being op'd.. but hey who knows

[Bignate]

lol lightscythe? reduced mobs? they have no trouble with pvp so it should really be increased and more exp...

I kind of understand this. Pvp is decked out in gemmed, upgraded cc geared accounts. They can kill any mob on the server, and solo most bosses with ease.

The thing about PVE is there the complete opposite. Last I knew, 10 mans were rarer then an Haleys comet since DR broke up. Not many people spend money there either, so there are few gemmed and upgraded accounts.

I guess what i'm getting at is, go throw on some half pon, half dt gear, ungemmed on an unupgraded account, and go fight some beetles. Lemme know how you fair.

[Tommyg]

Pve isnt far behind

[monaro]

few things spike a blazo dont hit u for 7k,
and u guys upgrade holy shield? seriously guys ur about to make whites stronger then greens
and a green white is abou tot run the game\.
and ***** u said they upgraded all colors but white. first of all they nerfed blue and its still nerfed they only reduced a lil of what they nerfed.
and if u know how to use black white which is fairly easy only people that should be beating u guys atm is greens. xshadow is a good example (im sure greens beat him) but when i duel him he normally is at full hp cause of spirit link his pets and syphon. i fought u as well ***** u have no idea how to even use ur class all u know how to do is heal which is what ur class is for and in pvp ur suppose to heal which is all u do anyway. zaraki with his resist and spirit link is tough to beat but im not to sure he uses it right either after about 30 seconds i beat him even. i put my resist on demo and used his 2-3g white gear one day and no red was able to beat me i even beat slash pretty easy

[monaro]

and if white is getting a buff, then i guess u need to find one for blue to or take stun immunity away. blue hits for shit even a blue geared person. we have 2 stuns (noone uses mez) so yes only 2 stuns, and 2 attacks and manaburn has a long cooldown anyway. our blue pet sucks. so ya before u do anything to white look closer into this fabar and torax ur making a mistake

[BusIzWicked]

gunna agree with omega here /shoots self.. BLACK/white should be good in pvp, its a dps class as a primary. WHITE/black is for pvp but not 1v1 duels.. you cant expect for a healing class to have a dps side to it to.. its like wantin to save your cake and eat it at the same time =\

[Twitch]

Smite hits harder than Bluvicars Blast. Blue is a joke offensively and you want to buff up a healers offence?




PCD is an idiot to be frank. White does not need any buffing. With this upgrade, Holy Shield will absorb 1k damage? As soon as a white decks on resist gear, I (blue) cant even hit 1k to break the shield.


Especially for a black/white, this upgrade is far too 'OP'. Holy Shield (and even Sacred Chest buff) then convert is an effective technique, and with Holy Shield absorbing even more damage, reduced further with Spirit Link means free converts and free mana.



yea here i'll use myself as an example, black/white with a sacred 4 gem gear full resist all upgrades. I dont have the same problem as every1 else with hibernate as it is. I still beat black/greens and every green combo actually with an exception of a few ppl like Ka and vamp.

Also do something to help red/blues because they are completely pathetic and cant even touch me. Visery can use every aa and i use none and i can still beat him with full health.

[Twitch]

However, I will agree with pets. They are strong, maybe too strong. However, if u take away magnify, i think they just another buff. Fix pet retreat, which i have never used (Anyone who says all greens use it is naive and ignorant) And I think people will ***** much less.


Also caster problem right now is resist. People have brought it up several times now, its that which makes tanks so storng. Because resists are crazy high

yea big big problem. The pet retreat has got to go. It makes the strong OP pets too hard. And yea i get 5 resists iin a row ALOT...it needs to be fixed asap.

[Twitch]

Holy Shield + Healing Light in tandem is awesome.

Maybe you should consider keeping mute on reserve for such an event that is so dire.

wow and again i quote vamp, healing light pwns. Vamp is bringing up all things that i do when i duel him lol. So i have to agree.You just need to practice pvp some more and find out how do fight each combo like i did. I think the problem is that not everyone uses white to its fulll extent in pvp like i do which is why im the best black/white in the game no doubt...and if anyone disagrees i'll duel your black/white to prove my point :)

[KingApocalypse]

About the hibernate:

I agree with fogg and hibernate should be a defensive spell. Like that you cant cast anything when hibernate is activated. Blacks are converting mana and red jump rape the other.

Point Store: Drop the prices please
An example....850 pts for 10cc? While the whole server is flooding with them.

[Emperor]

wow blue is back to life :D

[KingApocalypse]

Pets
- Fixed a bug allowing pets to avoid attacking each other if the owner used the retreat command.


Well Torax...this is good to see....but there is something you forgot. The cooldown for the instant pets are 20 secs. So when their pets engage in battle with a green....the second they die they will be able to resummon them while greens cant summon pets in battle.

Can you change the cooldown also please? To make it fair, thanks.

[monaro]

be kind with a cooldown on our cast pets now a mag pet can eat through 3 of our pets before they are close to dieing think about that

[willeo]

Well Torax...this is good to see....but there is something you forgot. The cooldown for the instant pets are 20 secs. So when their pets engage in battle with a green....the second they die they will be able to resummon them while greens cant summon pets in battle.

Can you change the cooldown also please? To make it fair, thanks.


be kind with a cooldown on our cast pets now a mag pet can eat through 3 of our pets before they are close to dieing think about that

I agree that their needs to be a longer CD and the mag thing, maybe they could beef up the instant pets some~?

[monaro]

or that making our pets a lil better at least making our lvl 45 pets as good as there lvl 45 pet lol. and what about the website can u guys update the top 100 and immo page and get it going back to updating every 6hours like it use to?>

[monaro]

seeing the top 100 and immos update today would be really nice :P

[Bignate]

These are tentative patch notes and will likely be updated before the patch is finalized.
.

Spells

- Base chance for players of equal level to resist spells reduced from 4% to 3%.

Pets
- Fixed a bug allowing pets to avoid attacking each other if the owner used the retreat command.

Alternate Advancement
- Added new general ability: "Induction", reduces the chance of your spells being resisted by 1% per rank (Max rank 3).




Thank you for fixing the pets. However, I think that those AA's and spells are going to do very little.

09-15-2010, 01:02 AM
Replies: 17
Black resisting like shit
Views: 359
Posted By Bignate
LOL its definitely not just blacks, I've had a...

LOL its definitely not just blacks, I've had a mez, 3 embers, 3 blazos, 2 tol, a searing, a fw, 2 bluv blast, a myst assault and a psionic all resist in a row, really wish i woulda screen-shot it,...


When you have that many resists in a row, on a mob in SS, there is no way that can be a statistical chance of 4%. Yesterday dueling DR in every fight I had at least 3 red spells and a stun resisted. Resists need to be taken out completely, and just let resist gear take the difference in damage. The complete missing of a spell is murder. Especially when I cast ember, searing, bluv blast, tol, billowing, psionic. And the ember, tol, billowing and psionic get resisted. I am left with nearly no mana, all my instants on cooldown and sitting there left open to get raped.

I am not asking for reds to be dominate. I am asking for a fight to be won not on a statisical chance but they actual players gear and ability to fight.

[yneos]

wow and again i quote vamp, healing light pwns. Vamp is bringing up all things that i do when i duel him lol. So i have to agree.You just need to practice pvp some more and find out how do fight each combo like i did. I think the problem is that not everyone uses white to its fulll extent in pvp like i do which is why im the best black/white in the game no doubt...and if anyone disagrees i'll duel your black/white to prove my point :)

i never said healing light wasn't good. but the response vamp gave is so far off from a instant save. unless you play healer alot, you have no idea how many times you are literally a millisecond away from saving someones life and then they die. The request for the heal i said isn't very bad, 30-45sec cool down, so once a PVP fight. also if you think about it, there are only 2 real moves a healer uses, convert and bfa. maybe once in a while a holys hield or healing light or group heal. extremely rarely does a holy shield provide a kill save.

[DeathStalker908]

Base chance for players of equal level to resist spells reduced from 4% to 3%.

Bulllllllll there is no way it could have been 4% before. That means there is a 1/25 chance to get a resist. I've been resisted 4+ times in a row, multiple times, and the chance of that would be 1/25 * 1/25 * 1/25 * 1/25 which is like a...0.00000256 chance of occurring. In other words, there's almost a millionth chance of that happening.

REMOVE RESISTS ALTOGETHER, I've said this so many times, it creates a LUCK FACTOR in all battles. How well you do should be based on your skill, reflexes, and partially gear. But now its gear, luck, and then skill...if you get 2-3 crits in a row, chances are that you'll win. If you get 2-3 resists in a row, you're F'd. In RoM, the only way you can get resisted is if you're fighting someone that's like 5+ levels higher than you, or someone that heavily out-gears you. If none of these conditions are met, you will NEVER see a resist. The players were extremely happy when this change occurred because they were tired of seeing resists pop up every time they used a spell.

If resists are removed, which I'm sure some would agree with, Mysticism should additionally function like resist gear by lowering the amount of incoming magical damage by a certain percent. Resists are probably the 3rd reason why I quit CoP, it was getting out of control when I played..Can't enjoy PvP if your victory is based purely on luck, which it was for me.

Thanks for listening

[monaro]

everytime i read anything ds says i feel smarter. i dont know why but he makes the world a better place, admins just listen to what ds says and u will go far.

[DeathStalker908]

everytime i read anything ds says i feel smarter. i dont know why but he makes the world a better place, admins just listen to what ds says and u will go far.

I'm assuming that this is an other way of saying "yeah i agree w/ what DS said. Make him president"

[xShinOrochix]

Bulllllllll there is no way it could have been 4% before. That means there is a 1/25 chance to get a resist. I've been resisted 4+ times in a row, multiple times, and the chance of that would be 1/25 * 1/25 * 1/25 * 1/25 which is like a...0.00000256 chance of occurring. In other words, there's almost a millionth chance of that happening.

REMOVE RESISTS ALTOGETHER, I've said this so many times, it creates a LUCK FACTOR in all battles. How well you do should be based on your skill, reflexes, and partially gear. But now its gear, luck, and then skill...if you get 2-3 crits in a row, chances are that you'll win. If you get 2-3 resists in a row, you're F'd. In RoM, the only way you can get resisted is if you're fighting someone that's like 5+ levels higher than you, or someone that heavily out-gears you. If none of these conditions are met, you will NEVER see a resist. The players were extremely happy when this change occurred because they were tired of seeing resists pop up every time they used a spell.

If resists are removed, which I'm sure some would agree with, Mysticism should additionally function like resist gear by lowering the amount of incoming magical damage by a certain percent. Resists are probably the 3rd reason why I quit CoP, it was getting out of control when I played..Can't enjoy PvP if your victory is based purely on luck, which it was for me.

Thanks for listening

this man is completely correct ^^ honestly who in the blue hell are u XD prob havent played enuff to kno but most of ur statments seem to be the way things shuld be =))

[BusIzWicked]

Don't think i could agree with DS anymore on the resist and myst thing.. its pure genius, and yes there's no way it the resist chance was 4%.. i've ss'd the multiple MOBS that resist my debuffs, and it's been 2, 3, or sometimes 4 in a row.. and in pvp i recall trying to ETD someones pet and the PET resited 3 times before it went on the 4th time. 8 mana balls wasted just to kill a pet, sooooo i dont think moving resist from 4% to 3% will change anything cuz i think somethine else is broke =\.

[DeathStalker908]

i never said healing light wasn't good. but the response vamp gave is so far off from a instant save. unless you play healer alot, you have no idea how many times you are literally a millisecond away from saving someones life and then they die. The request for the heal i said isn't very bad, 30-45sec cool down, so once a PVP fight. also if you think about it, there are only 2 real moves a healer uses, convert and bfa. maybe once in a while a holys hield or healing light or group heal. extremely rarely does a holy shield provide a kill save.

Who said Healing Light was an instant save? It's a Heal-Over-Time (HoT), they never serve as instant saves. They are present for long battles since that's when the yield the most benefit; even while you're stunned, silenced, or out of mana, the HoT will be noticeable because it still helps you. Nothing else will at that point in time.

And why the bloody **** do you want an instant heal? are you on crack? A white/black w/ resist gear and outheal just about ANY DPS, and yet, you want not only a new BFA, but a "BFA" that's INSTANT? then you try to justify it be saying "it can only be used once per fight cuz of its cd?" LMAO. the class that needs an instant spell is Blue; they should be given an INSTANT STUN because you healers have an instant SILENCE and and near-instant HEAL (BFA-1.4 seconds to cast. Quicker than everything but acid blast)

and if the ONLY two spells you use are convert/BFA, then you suck at healing..no wait, you suck at playing white because you're not utilizing mute (technically not a heal)

Stop taking advantage of the admins while they're listening to us by throwing out some bullshit statements about how underpowered and sucky whites are, because they simply aren't true..

[yneos]

Who said Healing Light was an instant save? It's a Heal-Over-Time (HoT), they never serve as instant saves. They are present for long battles since that's when the yield the most benefit; even while you're stunned, silenced, or out of mana, the HoT will be noticeable because it still helps you. Nothing else will at that point in time.

And why the bloody **** do you want an instant heal? are you on crack? A white/black w/ resist gear and outheal just about ANY DPS, and yet, you want not only a new BFA, but a "BFA" that's INSTANT? then you try to justify it be saying "it can only be used once per fight cuz of its cd?" LMAO. the class that needs an instant spell is Blue; they should be given an INSTANT STUN because you healers have an instant SILENCE and and near-instant HEAL (BFA-1.4 seconds to cast. Quicker than everything but acid blast)

and if the ONLY two spells you use are convert/BFA, then you suck at healing..no wait, you suck at playing white because you're not utilizing mute (technically not a heal)

Stop taking advantage of the admins while they're listening to us by throwing out some bullshit statements about how underpowered and sucky whites are, because they simply aren't true..

you didn't read previous posts than. in which case most of your responses to what i said are talking out your ass. any class in enough resist can be a pain in the ass to kill. and you are forgetting one thing, if im in full resist, i do shit ass smites. and yes i beleive there should be an instant cast BFA type move. with a high cool down. no im not trying to take advantage of the admins, just ive seen countless people die because my BFA was milliseconds from being casted.

[Torax]

The 4% resist rate was the base rate a player had to resist a spell (a naked player with no buffs has a 4% chance to resist a spell).

I hear what you guys are saying about resists and it will be something we continue to monitor and tweak. We don't want to make too drastic of changes in a single patch.

[DeathStalker908]

you didn't read previous posts than. in which case most of your responses to what i said are talking out your ass. any class in enough resist can be a pain in the ass to kill. and you are forgetting one thing, if im in full resist, i do shit ass smites. and yes i beleive there should be an instant cast BFA type move. with a high cool down. no im not trying to take advantage of the admins, just ive seen countless people die because my BFA was milliseconds from being casted.

Whites are harder to kill in resist than anything else, dont argue against that. They can restore their health, nothing else can, really. Black's life spikes suck in resist gear, and if their enemy is in resist gear too, they'll be recovering like 1k HP per LS.. lol

And for the 1000000000th time, WHITES ARENT SUPPOSED TO DEAL DPS. WHITE is a SUPPORT class that HEALS and gives BUFFS, they dont DO DPS. If you want DPS, gear up for your SECOND class..which is black. Grab some black gear if you want to DPS, since white isn't built for that..oh wait black dps already sucks cuz of purify so the combo youre looking for must be red/white!

[yneos]

in resist gear i go from 3.5k bfa to 2k bfa. and yet i get hit for 4k blazos. dont give me resist shit, of course im hard to kill still, but you act like there is no negative to me going in resist gear. not to mention unlike any other color i can't even grind in resist gear, so if you run up on me grinding i get raped instantly.

and im not looking to do great dps, im looking to have a chance. going to a 1.5sec cast and a 1-2sec cooldown would lower my DPS. so why do you keep trying to bring that up?

and for your smart ass comment at the end i have a red white, which i dont use.

[Twitch]

you didn't read previous posts than. in which case most of your responses to what i said are talking out your ass. any class in enough resist can be a pain in the ass to kill. and you are forgetting one thing, if im in full resist, i do shit ass smites. and yes i beleive there should be an instant cast BFA type move. with a high cool down. no im not trying to take advantage of the admins, just ive seen countless people die because my BFA was milliseconds from being casted.

no, listen we dont need an instant heal or any other new spell for white. All that we need is for our lvl 40 pet to heal us in pvp instead of healing itself. Good solution right? It's an extra heal of 1k every now and then and its a bug that was supposed to be fixed ages ago. This is the best solution to your problem without adding any extra spells that can make our white class OP.

[yneos]

i dont even want the instant heal for myself, i want it for raids. hence why i said 30-45seconds. if i wanted it for myself i'd say make the shit instant cooldown xD

[spiker8420]

few things spike a blazo dont hit u for 7k,
and u guys upgrade holy shield? seriously guys ur about to make whites stronger then greens
and a green white is abou tot run the game\.
and ***** u said they upgraded all colors but white. first of all they nerfed blue and its still nerfed they only reduced a lil of what they nerfed.
and if u know how to use black white which is fairly easy only people that should be beating u guys atm is greens. xshadow is a good example (im sure greens beat him) but when i duel him he normally is at full hp cause of spirit link his pets and syphon. i fought u as well ***** u have no idea how to even use ur class all u know how to do is heal which is what ur class is for and in pvp ur suppose to heal which is all u do anyway. zaraki with his resist and spirit link is tough to beat but im not to sure he uses it right either after about 30 seconds i beat him even. i put my resist on demo and used his 2-3g white gear one day and no red was able to beat me i even beat slash pretty easy

Your sounding like an idiot, with cat and no resist ive been hit for 7.2k by nik before, I understand on avg you dont but you totally can.

Aside from that My bfa heals for more than the holy shield protects and I have a total of 130 intell...

[Twitch]

i dont even want the instant heal for myself, i want it for raids. hence why i said 30-45seconds. if i wanted it for myself i'd say make the shit instant cooldown xD

on my healer i have never had a problem with heals in raids, just make sure you use holy shield and healing light where it would be needed. You know for a fact that if any type of instant heal was made it would become a pvp spell more than anything

[bluemirage]

How am I insulting you? I was just joking about the gear stacking crap, lighten up. And for your information, I do attend school, and the school I go to happens to be ranked in my state. It takes me 5 minutes tops to make a post like my previous one, and I'm sure ANYONE can adjust their schedule to have an ample amount of time to write on these forums.

I was making a point about white. It doesn't need any buffs


I was talking to vampiric lol

[yneos]

on my healer i have never had a problem with heals in raids, just make sure you use holy shield and healing light where it would be needed. You know for a fact that if any type of instant heal was made it would become a pvp spell more than anything

of course it would be used in PVP, just like any other spell. Your going to take advantage of it if you have it. but holyshield and healing light wont save you from a solar burn or something.

[Bignate]

Your sounding like an idiot, with cat and no resist ive been hit for 7.2k by nik before, I understand on avg you dont but you totally can.

Aside from that My bfa heals for more than the holy shield protects and I have a total of 130 intell...

nik also wears full caster, and he'll die alot quicker. In resist, i can burn all my mana, with no resists and not even get you to half health. With a smart hibernate cast, holy sheild, sacred sheild and healing light i may barely get you to a quarter if any at all before my mana is gone. During which time, your 1k-2k melees along with pets, possibly magged are going to have me nearly dead. And thats with you in no resist. Spike you have no reason to ask for any more spells or power ups.

[Twitch]

of course it would be used in PVP, just like any other spell. Your going to take advantage of it if you have it. but holyshield and healing light wont save you from a solar burn or something.

where im trying to get at is that cc 10 can all be solo healed and that is the top raid area atm. So i see no need and have no idea of anyone having a problem healing in raids. An instant heal will only make whites pretty much unbeatable in pvp and thats something that we dont want since we are pushing for a balance

[yneos]

lol there is no possible way to make a game like this "balanced" unless you make every class the same pretty much. and yea your right, except what happens if a red steals aggro? just let him die? what happens if you happen to mess up once? let everyone die, what happens if you get 2 monsters, i can come up with a few more reasons an instant bfa would be useful

[Twitch]

lol there is no possible way to make a game like this "balanced" unless you make every class the same pretty much. and yea your right, except what happens if a red steals aggro? just let him die? what happens if you happen to mess up once? let everyone die, what happens if you get 2 monsters, i can come up with a few more reasons an instant bfa would be useful

If a red is dumb enough to steal aggro simply drop fof. If he dies then its his problem. A tank can take 2 monsters at once ive healed in cc and dt both with 3 mobs on 1 tank. If agro gets stolen on a boss llike hewgore run to the other side to turn the boss around and not kill your group, ive done this plenty of times with sarcasis in cc 10. Trust me there is no need for this extra heal

[Fogg]

lol there is no possible way to make a game like this "balanced" unless you make every class the same pretty much. and yea your right, except what happens if a red steals aggro? just let him die? what happens if you happen to mess up once? let everyone die, what happens if you get 2 monsters, I can come up with a few more reasons an instant bfa would be useful

Yes it would be a nice and useful spell in a few instances like you said, but that doesn't change the fact that it would be used to help those in PvP that don't need the extra help, more than in raids like you say where it would be helpful.

Only instance I could see this being implemented so it is mainly used for healing in raids (I guess healing in PvP wars also) would be that this instant BFA be more of a transfer HP. So you heal Player X for 3k instantly, at the same time you lose 3k HP. This would make it a raid spell mainly, and something to call on for those occasional instances when it would be useful. This would discourage people from using it on there self, since there is no net gain of hp.

[moosier89]

lol there is no possible way to make a game like this "balanced" unless you make every class the same pretty much. and yea your right, except what happens if a red steals aggro? just let him die? what happens if you happen to mess up once? let everyone die, what happens if you get 2 monsters, i can come up with a few more reasons an instant bfa would be useful
its funnier when its a red/green lol in caster gear XD that can steal aggro

[Twitch]

Yes it would be a nice and useful spell in a few instances like you said, but that doesn't change the fact that it would be used to help those in PvP that don't need the extra help, more than in raids like you say where it would be helpful.

Only instance I could see this being implemented so it is mainly used for healing in raids (I guess healing in PvP wars also) would be that this instant BFA be more of a transfer HP. So you heal Player X for 3k instantly, at the same time you lose 3k HP. This would make it a raid spell mainly, and something to call on for those occasional instances when it would be useful. This would discourage people from using it on there self, since there is no net gain of hp.

now thats a good idea there since it could not be used to make white OP in pvp, nice thinking Fogg

[Crow]

Yes it would be a nice and useful spell in a few instances like you said, but that doesn't change the fact that it would be used to help those in PvP that don't need the extra help, more than in raids like you say where it would be helpful.

Only instance I could see this being implemented so it is mainly used for healing in raids (I guess healing in PvP wars also) would be that this instant BFA be more of a transfer HP. So you heal Player X for 3k instantly, at the same time you lose 3k HP. This would make it a raid spell mainly, and something to call on for those occasional instances when it would be useful. This would discourage people from using it on there self, since there is no net gain of hp.

Thats sounds to me like black spell :D

[yneos]

would be that this instant BFA be more of a transfer HP. So you heal Player X for 3k instantly, at the same time you lose 3k HP.

i do like this, but not necessarily the 3k for 3k, maybe like a 500HP difference. like 3k healed for 2.5k HP. make it have some use in single PVP

[Twitch]

i do like this, but not necessarily the 3k for 3k, maybe like a 500HP difference. like 3k healed for 2.5k HP. make it have some use in single PVP

exactly what we are trying to prevent lol, u said you wanted a spell fo raids and not pvp...make up your mind.

[yneos]

where did i say raid only?

[spiker8420]

nik also wears full caster, and he'll die alot quicker. In resist, i can burn all my mana, with no resists and not even get you to half health. With a smart hibernate cast, holy sheild, sacred sheild and healing light i may barely get you to a quarter if any at all before my mana is gone. During which time, your 1k-2k melees along with pets, possibly magged are going to have me nearly dead. And thats with you in no resist. Spike you have no reason to ask for any more spells or power ups.

Hey buddy. Wanna check the rest of this thread and point out where i said i need another spell (I said it might not be the end of the world, because that would mean they have 3 attacks... even blue has 4)? I said one thing about white getting ****ed in ps and people are claiming im calling white underpowered. I never said white or green deserves another attack/healing spell, I just think its lame that white gets 200 extra health onto a shield when every other class gets a decent upgrade.

And in resist i hit around 600 hundred not 1000... only 1000 when caster and fof on

[DeathStalker908]

Hey buddy. Wanna check the rest of this thread and point out where i said i need another spell (I said it might not be the end of the world, because that would mean they have 3 attacks... even blue has 4)? I said one thing about white getting ****ed in ps and people are claiming im calling white underpowered. I never said white or green deserves another attack/healing spell, I just think its lame that white gets 200 extra health onto a shield when every other class gets a decent upgrade.

Ok, fair enough..I see your point, and I too agree that if a skill is implemented, it shouldn't be crappy (like the Immolation trap red has for example). But then the other skills need to be adjusted too for balancing sake..the holy shield buff should come after everything else is fixed however, in my opinion. How much HP are you looking for it to absorb?

[willeo]

For a future patch Torax,


Mailboxes, so we don't have to ask eachother to "meet me at DC" lol~

[monaro]

seriously **** that u guys already have a syphon that will take 3khp from us and give u 4k now u want a heal to do more of a heal and take less dmg how aboutit heal 2.5k and take 3khp. and wtf blue has 4 attack spells? we got mystical stun ( escape) (wasted) we got mana burn, and mind blast. psionic o well? it ast .5 seconds lately with the stun immune shit. leap is about our best thing we got and its just used to get away. and lets look at another thng when spik putsup a holy shield and is in resist gear and shot a immo at him i dont even do eoughdmg to remove his holy shield. WHY? spiritlink. douche bag try again, wite needs nothing else if ur giving white some more shit ten for the love of GOD, somethign we have asked u guys FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS. lower spirit link.

and yes mailboxes would be GREAT. maybe some guild content at least somehing for guilds besides immos,and guild halls. maybe some guild ranks lil things like this to start off, something.

[yneos]

from what i see only red whites use spirit link. i know i personaly dont ever use it, and spike doesn't use it. so dont know why your crying about him useing it.

[bmlsoccer12]

For a future patch Torax,


Mailboxes, so we don't have to ask eachother to "meet me at DC" lol~

YES. would be perfect

[monaro]

from what i see only red whites use spirit link. i know i personaly dont ever use it, and spike doesn't use it. so dont know why your crying about him useing it.

ive seen u both use it lol, for both pve and pvp

[Emperor]

Torax do something about purify plz

purify need some kind of nerf

if you read my thread you will know how bad ppl hate it

[Crow]

- Added new general ability: "Induction", reduces the chance of your spells being resisted by 1% per rank (Max rank 3).

Thats sweet

[yneos]

you've seen me use it? your smoking crack. ive used it like 10 times total, of which it was while you were gone so stop making shit up. and it was while grinding.

and spike doesn't use it, because then he can't heal his pets with BFA, so if you did see him use it, it would be extremely rare.

[DeathStalker908]

from what i see only red whites use spirit link. i know i personaly dont ever use it, and spike doesn't use it. so dont know why your crying about him useing it.

I hope you're joking .. but..

if this is true, you should stfu about whites being underpowered because you simply don't know how to play one


and spike doesn't use it, because then he can't heal his pets with BFA, so if you did see him use it, it would be extremely rare.

so? Spirit link is essentially adding the pet's HP to your own pool, there is NO downside to it unless you REALLY need the pet heals, and in most cases, you don't. You're black/white, you can heal yourself and the pet..and if anyone tries to kill your pet, they're consuming their mana, making it easier for you to outlast them. use your head :/

[spiker8420]

Ok, fair enough..I see your point, and I too agree that if a skill is implemented, it shouldn't be crappy (like the Immolation trap red has for example). But then the other skills need to be adjusted too for balancing sake..the holy shield buff should come after everything else is fixed however, in my opinion. How much HP are you looking for it to absorb?

I honestly dont know. I couldnt judge what would be fair... I think just over 1k is reasonable but its an instant cast so who knows... I would rather they change the upgrade to something more usefuly for the white class but its way too late for that

And i agree that this should be implemented later, its not a big thing right now, just hsould be looked into

[spiker8420]

so? Spirit link is essentially adding the pet's HP to your own pool, there is NO downside to it unless you REALLY need the pet heals, and in most cases, you don't. You're black/white, you can heal yourself and the pet..and if anyone tries to kill your pet, they're consuming their mana, making it easier for you to outlast them. use your head :/

I dont use it because I'm slightly ocd and cant stand seeing my pets health down and not being able to heal it... Besides the fact that it does screw up buffs overall, I cant put anything on pets once i use sl. And I never said it wasnt useful, I just would rather have my main attack alive longest anyway and heal myself.

Oh and because no space anywhere on sidebar X(

[DeathStalker908]

I honestly dont know. I couldnt judge what would be fair... I think just over 1k is reasonable but its an instant cast so who knows... I would rather they change the upgrade to something more usefuly for the white class but its way too late for that

And i agree that this should be implemented later, its not a big thing right now, just hsould be looked into

well, honestly, anything with a static number (like 1000, or 800, or 502, etc) is gonna suck as better gear comes out. That's why I believe that % based skills (with the addition of a static number) should ALWAYS be used with buffs so it scales with the current content. So holy shield would absorb 1k dmg + 5% of the caster's HP, for example. Similarly, the green buffs do the same; Oak skin would increase defense by 500 (or w/e it is lol) + 10%, Regrowth would increase regen rate by 100+2%, Thorn shield (not hell shield) would reflect 80+5% of the damage taken, etc.

Clickies should operate the same. Buffs that add a static # to stats or anything like that should also include a % increase. But that's my opinion..

But of course, this should be implemented ASSUMING that green gets nerfed a bit =P

[Sir Ken]

was just thinking, any chance of a vendor that sells potions or elixirs for tokens of heroism?

i am getting tokens but nothing to spend them on.

[willeo]

was just thinking, any chance of a vendor that sells potions or elixirs for tokens of heroism?

i am getting tokens but nothing to spend them on.

Forgot about that one, we could use some new token items or like he said some potions to at least spend them on lol. The average person has like 500 tokens atm and nothing to do with them~

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

the improved shield for whites will b a pt store upgrade , so they will have to pay for it. Which is bs.So why the complaints still ?

[KingApocalypse]

the improved shield for whites will b a pt store upgrade , so they will have to pay for it. Which is bs.So why the complaints still ?

lol i think its a crime to read your nonsence posts :D

[spiker8420]

the improved shield for whites will b a pt store upgrade , so they will have to pay for it. Which is bs.So why the complaints still ?

I agree that its not an exact fix for the ps upgrade disadvantage but i didnt expect one to happen soon so the fact that its happening now is fine be me

[Dragon]

Question, if root gets to be escaped, does that also count for web too~?

Well, considering that Webbed Crystal's effect appears to be of a "root-type" nature, then I would ponder that it would be wholly adequate to presume so.

[Fogg]

How about more security in game? We have all these threads about it already, just curious where that's going since I was under the impression keys was working on it, but now is gone.

[Ryuzaki]

Wow! New patch, I skimmed through some of this from what I read...

1) PCD if you think white needs any sort of buff, you're an idiot... the class that needs buffing is blue, quite clearly...
2) If you have spirit link and don't use it, you must be borderline retarded, it is quite easily the best spell in the game, bar none, for PvP... and if the other person goes for your pets, throw one or two BFA's on them, and your gravy (esp you Spike, you don't even use mana to attack)
3) New patch is good!
Oh and DS regarding your idea about resists: http://forums.rampidgaming.com/showthread.php?t=6848

[KingApocalypse]

Wow! New patch, I skimmed through some of this from what I read...

1) PCD if you think white needs any sort of buff, you're an idiot... the class that needs buffing is blue, quite clearly...
2) If you have spirit link and don't use it, you must be borderline retarded, it is quite easily the best spell in the game, bar none, for PvP... and if the other person goes for your pets, throw one or two BFA's on them, and your gravy (esp you Spike, you don't even use mana to attack)
3) New patch is good!
Oh and DS regarding your idea about resists: http://forums.rampidgaming.com/showthread.php?t=6848

Damn im glad players that are inactive, went on a break or quit agree with us on 1 thing...pcd being retarded.

xShadowx is also black/white and he kicks ass....hard to beat in duels. Pcd dies so quick..i think she expects us to hug her like they do in teletubbies...thats why she dies in like 3-4 secs lol. Learn from your own guildies pcd....wear some resist like zaraki and be like impossible to kill.

[bluemirage]

[QUOTE=Ryuzaki;193882]Wow! New patch, I skimmed through some of this from what I read...

1) PCD if you think white needs any sort of buff, you're an idiot... the class that needs buffing is blue, quite clearly...
2) If you have spirit link and don't use it, you must be borderline retarded, it is quite easily the best spell in the game, bar none, for PvP... and if the other person goes for your pets, throw one or two BFA's on them, and your gravy (esp you Spike, you don't even use mana to attack)
3) New patch is good!
Oh and DS regarding your idea about resists: http://forums.rampidgaming.com/showthread.php?t=6848[/QUOT

And funny part of this is that people that come here and complain about it , are people whos mains are not white/ black or white / green.

Anyways torax even with the new patch coming i don't see players coming back. This seems a tread more to please players in one single guild so to b fair listen to the others also ,a4 instance me asking for a improvement in white.,
Most playing that come here and complain about it don't even play the game. So enough said

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

Damn im glad players that are inactive, went on a break or quit agree with us on 1 thing...pcd being retarded.

xShadowx is also black/white and he kicks ass....hard to beat in duels. Pcd dies so quick..i think she expects us to hug her like they do in teletubbies...thats why she dies in like 3-4 secs lol. Learn from your own guildies pcd....wear some resist like zaraki and be like impossible to kill.

first of all idiot xshadowx is black/white not white/black, as for i being so easy to beat, once again ur showing ur a retard coze it ain't true, then get ur facts straight, players that u claim to have res don't, etc.

Just use Jessica and ill give u a little lesson in who dies so fast.

As for teletubbies, ur the homo that spends all his time making pokemon characters not me, i passed that childhood phase.

get a life homo. I know its hard to find something to do in a 3th world country.But at least try.

[Ryuzaki]

first of all idiot xshadox is black/white not white/black, as for i being so easy to beat, once again ur showing ur a retard coze it ain't true, then get us fact straight players that u claim to have res don't, etc.

Just use Jessica and ill give u a little lesson in who dies so fast.

As for teletubbies, ur the homo that spends all his time making pokemon characters not me, i passed that childhood phase.

get a life homo. I know its hard to find something to do in a 3th world country.But at least try.

Have you ever considered that if rather than just making random, personal comments towards people, you actually discussed the issues being debated, people may value your opinion an iota more than they currently do?

Black/White and White/Black arethe same class, the way you distribute mana, and gear is what alters it, the fact that you have distributed your mana so that you rely mainly on white spells doesn't mean the class needs a buff, it means you need to rethink your setup. I played a black white and never once had an issue about the white damage.... if you want to dps you obviously deck your character in black gear... you shouldn't try to alter the game to cater specifically to your needs...

[PUSSYCATDOLLSZ]

Have you ever considered that if rather than just making random, personal comments towards people, you actually discussed the issues being debated, people may value your opinion an iota more than they currently do?

Black/White and White/Black arethe same class, the way you distribute mana, and gear is what alters it, the fact that you have distributed your mana so that you rely mainly on white spells doesn't mean the class needs a buff, it means you need to rethink your setup. I played a black white and never once had an issue about the white damage.... if you want to dps you obviously deck your character in black gear... you shouldn't try to alter the game to cater specifically to your needs...

really? then u know nothing about a white black, or blacks white, its not only the mana redistribution its the gear and the stat pts for instance xshadowx has a black sacred i have a white.

so what ur saying is nonsense and am not asking the game to b changed to meet my needs coze if that was the case then all u guys are asking for is also to alter the game to meet urs. So whats the difference?

[Viserys]

Well since admins actually seem to be reading our feedback in this thread I will add some of my own:

- I think blues need more PvP trickery type spells, maybe one that creates a fake npc copy of themselves that can be tabbed and runs around until it is hit and poofs. Just an idea.

- I think PvP server needs the crowns back from immos, they have no place on PvE server where I doubt anyone even plays and if they did they couldn't be killed to loot crown anyways.

- I think white does not need any more power or abilities, it is the only healing color and should be at a disadvantage in other areas instead of becoming more overpowered then it already is. In other more refined MMORPG's healers cannot run around in the open without an escort, unlike in CoP where they can just live forever and outheal anybody's damage 1v1.

- I think PCD needs to improve her grasp on the English language and figure out how to form sentences if she wants anyone to read her posts, I for one did not bother.

[Sir Ken]

i've got an idea, why don't you start a thread about arguing about how strong white is , then move all the useless off topic posts from here, then this thread can be for the up coming patch

[yneos]

- I think white does not need any more power or abilities, it is the only healing color and should be at a disadvantage in other areas instead of becoming more overpowered then it already is. In other more refined MMORPG's healers cannot run around in the open without an escort, unlike in CoP where they can just live forever and out heal anybody's damage 1v1.


in full resist i was far from being able to live for ever against quite a few people. to kill me you needed skill 1 on 1 (or luck). black greens could do it all day against me (or at least 2 of them hax and xythe) and i dunno what game you were playing were white was pure ***** class. in FFXI whites were able to hold there own. i mean they were not epic by any means but they could kill stuff. You know what would be funny, is if all these debuffs were to happen, and we go back to the days when the red/white or blue/white people have to heal in raids. (GL on any boss if this happens) Just because You think white is OP because you can't kill them, or because your set up can't kill them doesn't mean they are OP. Just because You think the class is boring and should be shit doesn't mean it should be shit. and the last few You i said was meaning to everyone who thinks white is OP. Survivability does not equal OP

[Ryuzaki]

really? then u know nothing about a white black, or blacks white, its not only the mana redistribution its the gear and the stat pts for instance xshadowx has a black sacred i have a white.

so what ur saying is nonsense and am not asking the game to b changed to meet my needs coze if that was the case then all u guys are asking for is also to alter the game to meet urs. So whats the difference?

I was probably the best black/white PvP wise to have played, when I did...and ok?, so how is that different? I could name every variable that affects damage in game, point store, clickies etc. and my point would still stand... YOU HAVE THE CHOICE OF HOW TO SETUP YOUR CHARACTER... If you wanted to dps, choose the black sacred wear black gear and be happy... if you want to heal, wear white gear, chose that shitty white sacred chest, and heal away... you can't do both, whites damage needs no boost, it's strong in literally everything else, CC, healing, damage mitigation... there has to be some drawback to picking it...

Quite clearly that is why you said it, because it would boost YOUR character... I said blue needs a buff because it quite clearly does... everyone can see it, you said white damage needs a boost because you want an invincible character...

[xShinOrochix]

I was probably the best black/white PvP wise to have played, when I did...and ok?, so how is that different? I could name every variable that affects damage in game, point store, clickies etc. and my point would still stand... YOU HAVE THE CHOICE OF HOW TO SETUP YOUR CHARACTER... If you wanted to dps, choose the black sacred wear black gear and be happy... if you want to heal, wear white gear, chose that shitty white sacred chest, and heal away... you can't do both, whites damage needs no boost, it's strong in literally everything else, CC, healing, damage mitigation... there has to be some drawback to picking it...

Quite clearly that is why you said it, because it would boost YOUR character... I said blue needs a buff because it quite clearly does... everyone can see it, you said white damage needs a boost because you want an invincible character...

agreed ^^ and this is coming from someone who was said to be one of the best black/whites to have played in his time =p. yea u do make up your character whether u choose it to be a shadow dps or someone whos meant to heal either way white/black is still pretty damn good

Survivability does not equal OP

describe survivability =p do u mean out healing two people who have 2-3 gemmed gear while ur being stunned by one of em survivability? thats OP in my opinon personally and u still want upgrades =/ be glad u even have that ability, cause honestly doing 4k smites and being able to outheal two damn people is just insane =P

[spiker8420]

Wow! New patch, I skimmed through some of this from what I read...

1) PCD if you think white needs any sort of buff, you're an idiot... the class that needs buffing is blue, quite clearly...
2) If you have spirit link and don't use it, you must be borderline retarded, it is quite easily the best spell in the game, bar none, for PvP... and if the other person goes for your pets, throw one or two BFA's on them, and your gravy (esp you Spike, you don't even use mana to attack)
3) New patch is good!
Oh and DS regarding your idea about resists: http://forums.rampidgaming.com/showthread.php?t=6848

Why you gotta hate man =/

lol ur right i dont use mana for attacking but i use it for buffing the entire battle, although what ur missing is that i cant heal my pets if i use sl, and since i have enough health i dont need to take more from my pets. I agree its a very useful spell, however not for every class combo.

However, I still dont get why people think any individual color is op. Its the color combos that make or break a character pvp/pve wise and being able to use both effectively

[yneos]

describe survivability =p do u mean out healing two people who have 2-3 gemmed gear while ur being stunned by one of em survivability? thats OP in my opinon personally and u still want upgrades =/ be glad u even have that ability, cause honestly doing 4k smites and being able to outheal two damn people is just insane =P

well when your completely 4gem yea that isn't OP. we all know the 4th gem gives the biggest increase in stats. also i have a sacred which neither of you had, you were both /green and neither one of you had pets out. so yea i can out heal you both easily, but could i kill either of you? hmmm maybe with enough time, BUT i couldn't because i had to heal myself a lot, and thunder got his HP back easily enough by syphoning (while he was in tank gear) and you got HP back by convalesce

also if you didn't notice as soon as thunder put some caster on my HP dropped a ****load faster.

[Ryuzaki]

Why you gotta hate man =/

lol ur right i dont use mana for attacking but i use it for buffing the entire battle, although what ur missing is that i cant heal my pets if i use sl, and since i have enough health i dont need to take more from my pets. I agree its a very useful spell, however not for every class combo.

However, I still dont get why people think any individual color is op. Its the color combos that make or break a character pvp/pve wise and being able to use both effectively


In your case perhaps it's different, purely because of the huge amount of hp you have (though if I were you I'd still use it, 22% is worth 4 resist pieces gemmed)... why don't you buff your pets before the duel/fight begins?

@ the individual colour thing, you have to be fair, it's more common that a single spell that one class has, or the attributes of one class make most of the combos involving that colour OP, (some to a greater extent than others), it's quite rare that a spell just makes one combo OP and not the others (Convert Soul back in the day is the only one I can actually think of, but a few may slip my mind)... I think that is why one colour is targeted more generally than the combo

[Crow]

I must agree that blue white is the best combo in game, you just cant miss one day not to see at least 10 blue whites:eek:.

[xShinOrochix]

well when your completely 4gem yea that isn't OP. we all know the 4th gem gives the biggest increase in stats. also i have a sacred which neither of you had, you were both /green and neither one of you had pets out. so yea i can out heal you both easily, but could i kill either of you? hmmm maybe with enough time, BUT i couldn't because i had to heal myself a lot, and thunder got his HP back easily enough by syphoning (while he was in tank gear) and you got HP back by convalesce

also if you didn't notice as soon as thunder put some caster on my HP dropped a ****load faster.

u managed to outheal a 4gemmed black caster and a ill admit not the best blue/green still for being stunned and blinded at times ur sense of "survivability" is a bit exagerrated as more to almost invincible =P

[yneos]

u managed to outheal a 4gemmed black caster and a ill admit not the best blue/green still for being stunned and blinded at times ur sense of "survivability" is a bit exagerrated as more to almost invincible =P

no i managed to out heal a black green in tank gear when you were fighting me, in full resist (which i dont have any more) i can out heal a green black if there retarded. if he was in caster i would have been dead very fast.

[xShinOrochix]

no i managed to out heal a black green in tank gear when you were fighting me, in full resist (which i dont have any more) i can out heal a green black if there retarded. if he was in caster i would have been dead very fast.

i forget the exact details tbh my point is white/black and black/white are just fine as they are no need to make dramatic changes =p

[spiker8420]

In your case perhaps it's different, purely because of the huge amount of hp you have (though if I were you I'd still use it, 22% is worth 4 resist pieces gemmed)... why don't you buff your pets before the duel/fight begins?

@ the individual colour thing, you have to be fair, it's more common that a single spell that one class has, or the attributes of one class make most of the combos involving that colour OP, (some to a greater extent than others), it's quite rare that a spell just makes one combo OP and not the others (Convert Soul back in the day is the only one I can actually think of, but a few may slip my mind)... I think that is why one colour is targeted more generally than the combo

I agree its generally one spell, but its one spell with some other spell backing it up. convert/ss stun/blazo or even stun/ss. Its generally some combo that can be used over and over again that works "too" efficiently. Although there are prob a few cases where same color spell combos are too good. Maybe blind/ss?

you said same thing, my bad. Getting close to bed time ZzzzzzZzzzz

[Bignate]

OK so white gets

1k absorption every 30 seconds. (+ a sacred absorption if they have that)
Spirit links to go with pets 22% (which are now going to be harder to kill with undying)
Resist gear (which with about 7-8 pieces has 40-50% resist)
Healing from pets
Mute
2-4k Smites.

and lets not forget the ability to out heal any spell....i was just on a full gemmed healer tonight hitting nearly 7k heals dont tell me it aint possible.

Hmm, damn which combination of white, black or green should i choose since red and blue are ****EDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.

[Twitch]

OK so white gets

1k absorption every 30 seconds. (+ a sacred absorption if they have that)
Spirit links to go with pets 22% (which are now going to be harder to kill with undying)
Resist gear (which with about 7-8 pieces has 40-50% resist)
Healing from pets
Mute
2-4k Smites.

and lets not forget the ability to out heal any spell....i was just on a full gemmed healer tonight hitting nearly 7k heals dont tell me it aint possible.

Hmm, damn which combination of white, black or green should i choose since red and blue are ****EDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.

I find it funny how ppl are deciding to cry over whites now just as they did with greens.....reds is what every1 used to cry about...and at one point it was blues....see a pattern? You guys cry and get a class nerfed then they cry and get you nerfed. No1 is ever happy unless their class is OP, which every1 used to always say black/white sucked till i used it correctly and can beat just bout anyone, its not classes that suck its the players. Ppl need to learn how to pvp instead of crying, as for example omega does dam good against me for being a red/blue while for no other red/blue do i need to use any aa's at all where i use all against him. Practice makes perfect.

[PitBull]

This is the msg i get ,, This program cannot update the installed version of crowns of power because of the following reasons

program files x86 unknown version.. anyone else getting this?

[willeo]

I'm actually DLn patch right now as we speak, so we will see in a sec lol~

[willeo]

This is the msg i get ,, This program cannot update the installed version of crowns of power because of the following reasons

program files x86 unknown version.. anyone else getting this?

Yep, just got it~

I think we're gonna have to reDL the game~ =/