If we add a security word to trading... [Archive]

willeo

08-27-2010, 03:41 PM

I like the specifc quality part but i think we should have some kind of safe bag that locks certain stuff and you could lock your character window/equipment so it cannot be traded untill you put the pw to unlock it but a pw for EVERY trade would be ok too i guess lol~

danzaiverx

08-27-2010, 03:44 PM

TechnoDestructo

08-27-2010, 03:48 PM

pretty confusing... just make it for red con items and up...

keysx

08-27-2010, 03:53 PM

What if you put in an option that you could turn the password enabled trading/dropping of items/gold/points or whatever on or off in the option menu, but make it so that any checking or unchecking of your options requires a security word input. Then you get the best of both worlds with this choice.

Because then we would still get tickets from the people who didn't have the option enabled and we'd be in the same situation. Right now the people who don't share passwords have no problem but the people who do feel a great injustice since they're not protected.

danzaiverx

08-27-2010, 03:56 PM

Techno, I disagree with you to the fullest of my ability!
Your suggestion ignores the fact that lower lever gamers still left in Arder value their possessions, too, and if we were to implement your idea into the game they have no protection of their own as you would.
Not to mention without a black and white "Security word, or no security word" change, people can and will find a way around what you have proposed. It's really not all that confusing if you think about it. So do that. Think...about it. K?

Vampiric_Lord

08-27-2010, 03:56 PM

pretty confusing... just make it for red con items and up...

I'm not sure what that is tbh, but I guess it is along the lines of items over X amount of power, and all point trades to need the security word. And possibly any item with gems in it?

danzaiverx

08-27-2010, 04:00 PM

Because then we would still get tickets from the people who didn't have the option enabled and we'd be in the same situation. Right now the people who don't share passwords have no problem but the people who do feel a great injustice since they're not protected.

You would get tickets, and you would most likely respond to them in the exact same manner as you have responded to a number of mine: THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, STOP TICKETING US, CLOSED!

Unfortunately, that is the only way to deal with some issues, and there is nothing to be done about it. Regardless, the suggestion I offered is a perfect fix for what people have requested.

Keep in mind that your above response could be given to any change involving security words and the way they are implemented, which is the SOLE PURPOSE of this poll, and by shooting down my suggestion you are simply contradicting the original purpose of the thread.

keysx

08-27-2010, 04:08 PM

Keep in mind that your above response could be given to any change involving security words and the way they are implemented, which is the SOLE PURPOSE of this poll, and by shooting down my suggestion you are simply contradicting the original purpose of the thread.

Not if it's mandatory for every character, which is the whole point I was trying to make.

yneos

08-27-2010, 04:12 PM

i say every item... BUT only once per login session or once per hour per login session or something so if your selling crap you dont need to type it in 15times.

duce

08-27-2010, 04:17 PM

How About Don't Give Your Password Out And To Bad If a Boss Is up And You Dont Have A Tank/Healer On Give Another Guild A Chance To Raid Then Sharing Login's TBH!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Game Isn't About Raiding It's About Who Has The Most Login's Time to Put a End to this.

DeathStalker908

08-27-2010, 07:15 PM

i say every item... BUT only once per login session or once per hour per login session or something so if your selling crap you dont need to type it in 15times.

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Same thing with purchasing point store items and selling items to NPCs. The first time you buy something, you have to type in your secondary password before you can purchase it. Then you can make any other purchase/trade you want without typing in the PW if you remain in the same session. If you relog, however, you'd have to retype the 2nd password.

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

08-28-2010, 01:07 PM

to everthing that u can transfer including , gear, g , pts, runes, reagents as well as one when ur trying to discard anything.
If u do that then u could probably enable the transfers between chars of same rga.

It will b a little annoying as first for players to get unsed to, but just imagine .Knowing what little chances will u have now to b hacked, it will b well worth it.

JoeDefoe

08-29-2010, 06:31 AM

Just make it like OW, so you can save the pw for the computer.

cincyman

08-29-2010, 10:07 AM

I think once per login in, or at ur first trade, then open till session is closed. (session being logging off game) To do it every trade just pain.

But we all know login info is shared, not suppose to be but, ok, no biggie moving on from that, but, what are you (rampid) going to do when people share their trading info (pw) also and same stuff keeps happening and all this new security does nothing to resolve the issues. We all know its going to happen, are you (rampid) going to be stern about this issue? I just think it needs to be said what role you (rampid) will take part in when and if this happens.

yneos

08-29-2010, 10:36 AM

PW + SW seems to work pretty good, or at least in outwar it does, even with there trustee system, for the first few years there just wasn't enough options with it, so you had to give out your login anyways if you had to cast pots.

duce

08-29-2010, 06:01 PM

LOL if u make SW everyone's gonna be sharing login's and no one should be sharing login's this isnt outwar.....

yneos

08-29-2010, 06:26 PM

thats your opinion because you have no reason to share a login doens't mean 90% of the game doesn't.

Ryuzaki

08-30-2010, 08:41 AM

I'm of the opinion that there should be less security, and rather than typing both a username AND password, all that is required is the username - it'd save a lot of time. Please consider this idea.

duce

08-30-2010, 10:29 AM

Guild's Should Raid When They have the People On For it Not Who Has The Most PassWord's

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

08-30-2010, 12:32 PM

:confused:I'm of the opinion that there should be less security, and rather than typing both a username AND password, all that is required is the username - it'd save a lot of time. Please consider this idea.

Pretty sure that request doesnt come on often........
And it would save hackers so much time.:eek:

keysx

08-30-2010, 01:30 PM

50/50. Way to help guys.

B34STY

08-30-2010, 01:35 PM

50/50. Way to help guys.

I just know people are going to abuse it and everyone wont be playing on there own account then people wont spend money to pimp there own account with the S/W you can just play on others

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

08-30-2010, 03:10 PM

50/50. Way to help guys.

on my other rgas:)

bubblebutt

08-30-2010, 03:36 PM

I just know people are going to abuse it and everyone wont be playing on there own account then people wont spend money to pimp there own account with the S/W you can just play on others

TRUE ......

coisaspraguardar

08-30-2010, 04:15 PM

and for g transfered and pts and even to discard an item or regeants, imagine keys how much trouble this would save u , no more tickets about shit being stolen.

coisaspraguardar

08-30-2010, 04:17 PM

and for g transfered and pts and even to discard an item or regeants, imagine keys how much trouble this would save u , no more tickets about shit being stolen.

ARE EITHER PEOPLE who share their login or people that hacked others.

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

08-30-2010, 04:37 PM

ARE EITHER PEOPLE who share their login or people that hacked others.
:eek::eek:

Crow

08-30-2010, 07:06 PM

Logins are dangerous to the world, remove them and leave just passwords.
I know, i know, make your login hard to type so hacker have problem typing it and give up on you.
I doubt that hacker will hack if your login is: alrbkshrtjbfnq, but then you will give up on your login too.
There is no safe area, all logins are doomed.
Kos to the login.

chipper7417

08-30-2010, 08:55 PM

your login is: alrbkshrtjbfnq,

WTF HOW DID YOU GET MY LOGIN YOU HACKER!

JoeDefoe

08-31-2010, 09:55 AM

50/50. Way to help guys.

I can make 100 new RGA and pwn this poll if you want.
Prob 20 ppl has all used other logins to vote here, so you cant trust poll!

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

08-31-2010, 04:33 PM

There's now a new post of players asking for mods to give their stolen items and pts back coze of login sharing and no security word.
Yet, there are more no votes then yes for a security word.
Can't c the names of the voters but i beat some of those dont even play. or that the no voters were somehow involved in the hacking of some of the items.

So dont take the poll into consideration and do implant a security word if u want to keep the little players there are around.

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

09-01-2010, 07:35 AM

lets all post our usernames and pw in here if no sercurity word is implanted.
Coze once our pts and gear are stolen we will b all equally nakky.

Mines is gtfomyaccount

pw 911canihelpumfks?

lol hope this information dont belong to no1. but if it does it would b darn funny.

duce

09-01-2010, 09:57 AM

Fogg

09-01-2010, 10:08 AM

I don't think the pole was asking if people wanted a security word at all, I thought it was if they wanted it for EVERY trade, or only certain things traded. An options menu to be able to turn off possibly gold, lower quality items, and reagents might be helpful as most people seem to like that idea. As for points and the higher quality items, I think those should require the security word. I just hope people see the security word as an improvement and don't give that out as well. I also almost wish there was some way to lock certain items to your account that you know you are very unlikely trade, and would require an additional way to unlock them to trade. Maybe that's just too much, but more security in my opinion cant hurt. (As long as it didn't bug somehow and create more issues)

danzaiverx

09-01-2010, 12:29 PM

Since everyone is comparing Outwar to Crowns of Power im just waiting to see when these babys are gonna want a tyypos for crowns of power so they can auto grind to.

Haa outwat isn't crowns of power stop acting like it is....

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

09-01-2010, 12:39 PM

imagine the chars running fast as hell killing all mobs and bosses.

Need to send the typpo dude that request.

danzaiverx

09-01-2010, 12:46 PM

imagine the chars running fast as hell killing all mobs and bosses.

Need to send the typpo dude that request.

Who's the typpo dude!?

PUSSYCATDOLLSZ

09-01-2010, 01:26 PM

on the previous versions of typpo his name would appear, now it doesnt seem to.

So the typpo dude is now a dude undercover .......

LostFroggy

09-02-2010, 11:45 AM

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madmuis

09-02-2010, 01:52 PM

Goon, you're a lazy ass ****tard. Hacking people because they leave your guild LOLOL

moosier89

09-03-2010, 01:53 AM

do it do it now just put in the SW :D

virus

09-04-2010, 05:31 PM

Can i just ask whats the reason for this change? People give out there security answers & the person decides to take stuff wont make a difference if they have to enter it once or every trade they make as they have the info to do it.

What should be more of a concern is how people are able to make a item to item trade without knowing that persons security answer & it has been ticketed already because what was traded was in the backpack & they was far greater valued items in the vault which would of been taken if they had the sec answer.

But to the question at hand, i think sec answers should be like captcha's for skill page, every so long you need to re enter the sec answer again, then again who cares as there's not much trading happening now days!

DeathStalker908

09-04-2010, 06:27 PM

Can i just ask whats the reason for this change? People give out there security answers & the person decides to take stuff wont make a difference if they have to enter it once or every trade they make as they have the info to do it.

People share PWs so there are enough people to do raids and stuff like that. The person that owns the account risks having their account being messed up (items stolen, pts used, etc) by the person they share their PW with.

If we add in a secondary password, people can SHARE primary passwords without the risk of having their items deleted/stolen since a SECONDARY password would be required for that type of action.

Another way to put it: We want this change so that if someone has only primary information (just enough to log in), they can PLAY on the account but NOT alter anything on it since they LACK the secondary password to do so.

bubblebutt

09-21-2010, 07:08 PM

Meh fu~k security this game is over might as well just let peep's steal gear.

JoeDefoe

09-27-2010, 07:17 AM

I guess this thing wont happen after all...

DeathStalker908

09-27-2010, 06:53 PM

I guess this thing wont happen after all...

no shit, what did u expect?

JoeDefoe

10-01-2010, 06:37 AM

no shit, what did u expect?

I really tought it would happend, since its so important=/

binderfender

10-01-2010, 12:24 PM

The problem seems to be with the gear that comes up "missing/stolen" when characters share logins. I recommend the extra security be on the Lore gear, points, and guild hall resources. Runes, regents, and gold are easily obtained.