new crew permissions

[yneos]

how about 2 new crew permissions, 1 for "trustee" and one for "trustee to"

make the "trustee" permission trustee the "trustee to" permission

so we dont have to set them automatically, they can be set by crew


so if player A is inactive and player X joins the crew as a raider, the crew can set player A into a rank with "trustee" as a permission, and player x to a rank were "trustee to" is a permission, and it will automatically trustee player A to player X

[Wizzy]

That puts trustee access power in the hands of the few selected leaders. I dunno about that. You should be solely responsible for your account if anything happens (ie. your items are unequipped and so on) but then again, you can only do so much via trustee.

[EventHorizon]

This would br an excellent idea to be implemented in the game, removing much of the stress of having to constantly update trustees as people come and go from the crews.

[yneos]

That puts trustee access power in the hands of the few selected leaders. I dunno about that. You should be solely responsible for your account if anything happens (ie. your items are unequipped and so on) but then again, you can only do so much via trustee.



only "leader" has permissions to change permissions, and if you dont trust your leader why would you be in that crew <.<

[Wizzy]

Well you didn't say that :P

But anyways, I think it'd be a good addition that will help crews be more organized and so on.

[yneos]

i thought people knew only leader had the option to change crew permissions <.<

[Wizzy]

But you didn't say that, you said "add a new permission" and most persmissions except the change persmissions can be enabled for other ranks.

[skydragon666]

very bad idea maybe we should just leave it the way it was

[yneos]

how is that a bad idea, its less work for everybody in the crew, and it makes inactive accounts still be usable, with out having to give out there PW.

[crudedude]

i like the idea idk y u are so negative about it skydragon... every crew has some inactive accounts or multis or something. when a new raider joins its a real pain to go set trustees to those accounts thats if u even have their login.

[MasterTolkien]

interesting idea..

[Wizzy]

It would make raiding easier as everyone would be trusteed to your main account so you don't have to switch RGAs to a crew managed one.

[DruiD]

I like the idea personally, work out a few of the kinks and you have a good idea. Not to mention, the list can be edited whenever needed/if someone left it automatically removes them so you don't have the hassle of doing it, or find out 3 weeks down the road that you have someone trusteed that should of been removed long ago. I like it

And also say for example the server goes down (like it did a few months ago) and in that time a person came back to the crew and went inactive before it forgot to trustee, so now theirs 10 accounts untrusteed that you could really use, but can't cuz they aren't around, this would help to fix that

[yneos]

or if someone in your crew gets mad at you, and starts unequiping your gear... sure you can take the trustee off yourself, and tell your active members to take off the persons trustee, but still your inactives are screwed

[jZampage]

It's a horrible idea that will never be put into play. It takes the responsibility out of your account, and if something happened to someone as a result, outwar would receive a non-stop ***** fest until they got what they wanted.

[DruiD]

zamp its the same as it is now but only this idea saves the time of keeping up to date with trustees. you go to a crew, you get a list of names to trustee and you trustee them, this eliminates that by doing it automatically, because the leader makes the list of names to trustee, and those are who gets trusteed, just like it is now, I love it

not to mention, say someone that is on the trustee list gets booted, they are automatically removed from everyones accounts, where with this system now, theirs potential time for that person to mess with peoples accounts, this would eliminate that. I really can't see any negative aspects to this, every way I look at it it's a convenience

[Wizzy]

zamp its the same as it is now but only this idea saves the time of keeping up to date with trustees. you go to a crew, you get a list of names to trustee and you trustee them, this eliminates that by doing it automatically, because the leader makes the list of names to trustee, and those are who gets trusteed, just like it is now, I love it

not to mention, say someone that is on the trustee list gets booted, they are automatically removed from everyones accounts, where with this system now, theirs potential time for that person to mess with peoples accounts, this would eliminate that. I really can't see any negative aspects to this, every way I look at it it's a convenience

Didn't Cold Hearted have that problem :confused:. And I agree, it'd be much more beneficial to a crew to have it automatic.

[DruiD]

I'm sure it's happened to every crew atleast once :P

[MasterTolkien]

Yea if your ironed out the wrinkles this would be a very beneficial plan.

[Egnar]

I'm not fond of the idea to be honest just because I set up my security based upon the people I have set as trustees. I trust the specific people in my crew whom have me as a trustee with every permission I've set aside without a security word for them. I don't want my crew leader to decide who else can snoop around my account.

[Wizzy]

I thought security.php no longer exists.

[Egnar]

It doesn't but some of the items which I turned off previously remain off, such as removing my security word from quest removal.

[simonrobinson]

That puts trustee access power in the hands of the few selected leaders. I dunno about that. You should be solely responsible for your account if anything happens (ie. your items are unequipped and so on) but then again, you can only do so much via trustee.

i agree with w1zzy here

[Wizzy]

If they reset all of those securities server wide then that should fix the "snooping" problem and as far as I know most leaders require you to trustee your account for most of the raiding members to have access to raid with in any case. I believe that's a requirement for joining most crews in the first place.

[Egnar]

If they reset all of those securities server wide then that should fix the "snooping" problem and as far as I know most leaders require you to trustee your account for most of the raiding members to have access to raid with in any case. I believe that's a requirement for joining most crews in the first place.
Except when you're a sub-leader of a crew and are one of the accounts in which people end up trusteeing.

The fact remains that while I have no problem trusting the current raiders in my crew and have happily granted them access to a trustee I do not feel comfortable with people automatically being granted access to my account because someone other then myself has deemed them worthy.

[Wizzy]

It wouldn't matter who I am because the Crew Home isn't viewable via Trustee in any case. lol.

[Egnar]

I'm not saying it matters in terms of things you can do to the crew but I would prefer that I have the control to choose who I trustee and not my crew leader. Just as an example, we're currently having problems with a crew memeber moving accounts for raids which are supposed to remain in specific areas.

[Wizzy]

And as I was saying before, most crews require that you trustee their accounts to use for raiding and if you're not trusteed they usually boot you.

And if the this idea was implemented the leader would be able to choose who is and isn't trusteed.

[DruiD]

egnar, you're overthinking everything.

[Egnar]

egnar, you're overthinking everything.
Is it wrong for me to prefer that I have sole choice over who is allowed to access my account? I don't think so.

Now lets say we put a new permission in the preferences page "Auto Trustee On/Off" then added your idea. I would be much more inclined to say it's a great idea because then those who wish give away there ability to choose may do so and those who wish to keep all of there account choices in there sole possession may do so.

[DruiD]

I'm not saying it matters in terms of things you can do to the crew but I would prefer that I have the control to choose who I trustee and not my crew leader. Just as an example, we're currently having problems with a crew memeber moving accounts for raids which are supposed to remain in specific areas.

Then you're leader would remove that person from the trustee list and would no longer have access to anyone in your crew. If you're having problems, that's what the trustee log is for, so you can see who is on yoru account when, and makes it easy to tell if they're a nuisance or not

[Wizzy]

Is it wrong for me to prefer that I have sole choice over who is allowed to access my account? I don't think so.

Now lets say we put a new permission in the preferences page "Auto Trustee On/Off" then added your idea. I would be much more inclined to say it's a great idea because then those who wish give away there ability to choose may do so and those who wish to keep all of there account choices in there sole possession may do so.

I just said that like two posts before yours...

[Egnar]

You're right but if I feel someone is trouble in the first place I'm not going to trustee them and prevent them from damaging my account.

I just said that like two posts before yours...
Sorry, I've pretty much felt it necessary to ignore most of what you post in an effort to not enable your habit.

[Wizzy]

Then you probably shouldn't join a crew where you don't trust the people and the leader/s.

[DruiD]

I guess the only other option would be a user trustee page without outwar, that has a checkbox by each name where you can change select trustees you don't want without interfering with the system, but every place I've ever been, you either trustee everyone or you leave

[Egnar]

I completely trust my Leader and 95% of the people in my crew but that doesn't mean new people won't spring up whom I am not completely trusting of that my leader feels is worthy of using as a raider. Like I said my accounts choices should be left to my responsibility and my responsibility alone.

[simonrobinson]

Then you probably shouldn't join a crew where you don't trust the people and the leader/s.

stay out of tfo then lol those 2 leaders at mo suck balls

[Wizzy]

which two? o.O

[simonrobinson]

which two? o.O

current two in leader role at mo

[Sparda1234]

I like the idea, it can be annoying at times waiting for people to set there trustees up.

[Sensational]

tbh trustees are fine how they are..

[yneos]

if you trustee someone.... the most they can do is equip new orbs, unequip items. they can't abandon quests, can't even see quest log, can see in your backpacks. can go onto your profile... which everyone can do. can't change screen names, can't even check yoru screen names, even tho everybody else can. can't go to message center can't go to allies, can't go to preferences, can't go to your account on rampidgaming.com. im getitng tried of listing stuff.


there is virtualy nothing they can do cept skill / join / unequip / equip

[Egnar]

there is virtualy nothing they can do cept skill / join / unequip / equip
And you have no idea how many times people skill up raiders to raid sets, get bored and stop and have your skills on cooldown when you actually need them.

[DruiD]

lol, my god egnar, that's going to happen all the time, it's just how the games designed, let it go, it's a great idea, and everything you mention as a flaw is no different then a flaw in the current system, atleast with this idea theirs a more secure feeling after someone is booted or whatever other than knowing while you're at work that potentially someone that just got kicked is now unequiping your crap

[Egnar]

And all I've asked, Druid, is that this be made a personal permission if it were implemented so that you guys who are willing can use it. And those of us who wish to keep account choices into our own hands also have the choice to do so. I don't know much about coding but I do know it isn't hard to write a permission to turn another permission on/off.

[simonrobinson]

if you trustee someone.... the most they can do is equip new orbs, unequip items. they can't abandon quests, can't even see quest log, can see in your backpacks. can go onto your profile... which everyone can do. can't change screen names, can't even check yoru screen names, even tho everybody else can. can't go to message center can't go to allies, can't go to preferences, can't go to your account on rampidgaming.com. im getitng tried of listing stuff.


there is virtualy nothing they can do cept skill / join / unequip / equip

they can cast potions too :)

[Wizzy]

And all I've asked, Druid, is that this be made a personal permission if it were implemented so that you guys who are willing can use it. And those of us who wish to keep account choices into our own hands also have the choice to do so. I don't know much about coding but I do know it isn't hard to write a permission to turn another permission on/off.

That would defeat the purpose of the idea in the first place. Because what it was based about was not having to wait on people to agree and have them do it but rather have the leader do it automatically. And if you don't want your account trusteed all you have to do is tell the leader or have this Trustee idea edited to include a one time thing that says "The leader requests permission to manipulate the trustees to and fro your character. Do you agree? This can be cancelled at any time by you."

[simonrobinson]

That would defeat the purpose of the idea in the first place. Because what it was based about was not having to wait on people to agree and have them do it but rather have the leader do it automatically. And if you don't want your account trusteed all you have to do is tell the leader or have this Trustee idea edited to include a one time thing that says "The leader requests permission to manipulate the trustees to and fro your character. Do you agree? This can be cancelled at any time by you."

agree will said nooblet

[jZampage]

That would defeat the purpose of the idea in the first place. Because what it was based about was not having to wait on people to agree and have them do it but rather have the leader do it automatically. And if you don't want your account trusteed all you have to do is tell the leader or have this Trustee idea edited to include a one time thing that says "The leader requests permission to manipulate the trustees to and fro your character. Do you agree? This can be cancelled at any time by you."

Well said. This is why it won't work. Let alone the simple fact that it is just utterly retarded.

[Wizzy]

"Utterly retarded" isn't a great argument :-P

[jZampage]

"Utterly retarded" isn't a great argument :-P

Is to me. Lol

[Egnar]

Well said. This is why it won't work. Let alone the simple fact that it is just utterly retarded.
This still allows it to work because you have to be active to join a crew, thus, you would be active enough to press the button. Thus. . .Should you choose to go inactive or go away and new raiders come about the leader can handle it, otherwise, you can be like me and prefer to know who has my account and choose to have to do things manually.

It doesn't defeat the purpose because much like the old security.php you only have to click it on once and never again.

[NightThaProphet]

how about 2 new crew permissions, 1 for "trustee" and one for "trustee to"

make the "trustee" permission trustee the "trustee to" permission

so we dont have to set them automatically, they can be set by crew


so if player A is inactive and player X joins the crew as a raider, the crew can set player A into a rank with "trustee" as a permission, and player x to a rank were "trustee to" is a permission, and it will automatically trustee player A to player X

kind of a nice idea, but perhaps make it to where thep layer has to allow it in like a security option

[Egnar]

Looks like i'm not the only one who likes the decision to be in the persons hand.

[Wizzy]

That would defeat the purpose of the idea in the first place. Because what it was based about was not having to wait on people to agree and have them do it but rather have the leader do it automatically. And if you don't want your account trusteed all you have to do is tell the leader or have this Trustee idea edited to include a request upon joining that says "The leader requests permission to manipulate the trustees to and fro your character. Do you agree? This can be cancelled at any time by you."

I think that should be sufficient to combat your insecurities?