loyalty

[yneos]

lets change loyalty so it cancels 1 buff.

like say you are attacking some1 with loyalty and you dont rampage, you should strip nothing.

if you attack some1 and you do rampage, it counts as non rampaged hit, but strips exp

if you have ML on and you rampage, it takes off the ML and it counts like a normal rampaged hit.

if you cast HM on them, and you have ML and you rampage it counts as a normal
ML / rampage hit

if you HM / brut them and have ML and you rampage, it takes off the brut and only counts as a HM / ML / rampage hit.

that way outwar wont see as many complaints about loyalty but... then illusion would be up, but at least then the other person can't attack.

[skydragon666]

lol good idea but every 1 has 1005 rampage :-j

[Wizzy]

LOL. This is true. ^_^

[yneos]

i know thats the point, but insted of getting HM / bruted / ML and getting striped 4k exp it would only be 2k


or if you just ML and rampage insted of striping 1000 exp it would be like 600 or what ever the exact amount would be

[SnIpEuOuT]

Or just nerf loyalty and illusions durations down to something reasonable like 2-3 hours at lvl 10 so its not possible for the player to be invulnerable to attacks for 14 hours a day without using a totem.

[yneos]

everybody enjoys stripin 4-5k off people, but do you enjoy seeing people have loyalty on 24/7?

so if they updated it like i said, you can at least still strip exp off that person

[Wizzy]

I think they're fine just the way it is right now.

[MasterTolkien]

Or just nerf loyalty and illusions durations down to something reasonable like 2-3 hours at lvl 10 so its not possible for the player to be invulnerable to attacks for 14 hours a day without using a totem.
Would agree with this

[yneos]

loyalty is crap right now. you have them pansy who think there tough because they can piss off a crew and get nothing striped from them, and they can do it, because they totem loyalty 24/7


and i agree with snipes idea to, im not picky on what needs to be done to loyalty but something does need to be done

[skydragon666]

but the real question when was the last time any 1 attacked or was attacked lol

[bluedthunder]

i personally think loyalty and illusion should be removed from the game permanently...

[yneos]

that was my original thought.


but i thought of another thing outwar could do with loyalty, make it "stops exp from being striped for xamount of successful attacks"

[Wizzy]

Get loyalty then. See, loyalty is useful just not in wars.

Dom, I don't even know who you are! :P

[Shady]

I think they're fine just the way it is right now.

I agree you you Wizzy.

[Sparda1234]

Bring back Purge FTW!

[jeffers1986]

I wish people would stop suggesting bringing purge back....and loyalty better not get watered down, cause I spent a good amount of points to reset my skills into the pres class.

[Egnar]

I think loyalty would be fine if the timer was taken much lower. Loyalty at level 10 is I believe 10 hours?. . Based on low level progression. . .That's completely ridiculous considering everyone is preservation and that anyone over level 55 with some skillorbs probably has a few points in it just because they ran out of other useful skills.

I personally think the max time at level 10 should be like 2-3 hours.

[Wizzy]

I wish people would stop suggesting bringing purge back....and loyalty better not get watered down, cause I spent a good amount of points to reset my skills into the pres class.

Yeah. I spent thousands of points getting +2 Loyalty orbs a couple months back. I'd be sad if they did something to it.

[Domination]

Yeah. I spent thousands of points getting +2 Loyalty orbs a couple months back. I'd be sad if they did something to it.

I doubt they'd nerf loyality or illusion, peole that have them love it, people that have to attack hate it and those are the people that ***** about it. ...hmmm then again all the complaining killed the best old school skill of them all ambush ...its sucks now :(

[Sparda1234]

They shouldnt and i doubt they would remove loyalty or illusion. Because most people who have level 10 of both would have spent quite a few points on +2orbs ect.

[Egnar]

They shouldnt and i doubt they would remove loyalty or illusion. Because most people who have level 10 of both would have spent quite a few points on +2orbs ect.
Both spells also ruin the spirit of the game, frankly, I'm not saying they shouldn't take peoples cost into consideration but they should fix something that is a plague amongst attacking people.

[simonrobinson]

talkin of skills they should take empower stealth enfeble n bloodlust away from being castable on others. they should also make it so trustees cant cast skills potions or any other stuff. all trustees should be able to do is move in dc they shouldnt be able to raid either. you join your own account cast ya own skills. end of

[Wizzy]

I doubt they'd nerf loyality or illusion, peole that have them love it, people that have to attack hate it and those are the people that ***** about it. ...hmmm then again all the complaining killed the best old school skill of them all ambush ...its sucks now :(

Also, I know this doesn't sound like me but...Outwar has changed. There are people who just like to DC and if wars are back, there'd be those who like to Attack. Keeping loyalty and illusion would offer protection to those who don't like to get in wars so they can still enjoy themselves. But do note, I wouldn't want them having skills to be completely invulnerable for 48hrs. I like being a pain in the butt sometimes and making such people cry. ^_^

[simonrobinson]

Also, I know this doesn't sound like me but...Outwar has changed. There are people who just like to DC and if wars are back, there'd be those who like to Attack. Keeping loyalty and illusion would offer protection to those who don't like to get in wars so they can still enjoy themselves. But do note, I wouldn't want them having skills to be completely invulnerable for 48hrs. I like being a pain in the butt sometimes and making such people cry. ^_^

the only reason folk dc is because attacking dont give them enough growth.
if ow changed it so everyone u hit u gained 1000xp we would all be attacking and not dcing

[jZampage]

the only reason folk dc is because attacking dont give them enough growth.
if ow changed it so everyone u hit u gained 1000xp we would all be attacking and not dcing

With the crew upgrades, brutes, ML/KS, and hitman - you can get a decent 400-500 xp a hit though Hec, you know that first hand :p

[simonrobinson]

With the crew upgrades, brutes, ML/KS, and hitman - you can get a decent 400-500 xp a hit though Hec, you know that first hand :p

not enough up it to 1000 per attack n ill wtf pwn the server

[Wizzy]

Michelle will. But I must admit, I'm pretty sure more people would attack if they gained more exp from attacking.

[jZampage]

not enough up it to 1000 per attack n ill wtf pwn the server

Lmao @ Ill wtf pwn the server

right now its like 10% u gain from each strip -- 20% would be elite.

[rolky86]

stop whine at loyalty, whats wrong with some protection? u can still neg em silly and not attack :p... but still u can strip some strenght :)

[Egnar]

Also, I know this doesn't sound like me but...Outwar has changed. There are people who just like to DC and if wars are back, there'd be those who like to Attack. Keeping loyalty and illusion would offer protection to those who don't like to get in wars so they can still enjoy themselves. But do note, I wouldn't want them having skills to be completely invulnerable for 48hrs. I like being a pain in the butt sometimes and making such people cry. ^_^
Warring is a choice, you don't like wars you don't join a War crew. It's really very simple.

[Sensational]

yeah up the amount of exp you gain from attacking!
that'll stop people dcing so much.