SR Raids done 2x in a hour

[destinyslove]

Is this legal? If not then why is Phoenix Rising on Rancid doing two full SR runs in a hours time with the same accounts?

Go check out the raid log and you will see. If we are allowed to do this then let us know cause I am pretty sure people doing SR raids can get more out of their raids.


Otherwise they need to be looked out for cheating/glitching/etc.


Didn't know where to post this, please move it to appropriate forum if needed. Otherwise please addresse this.

Thank you.

[Domination]

I dunno if it is or not but you have this under the wrong catagory

[destinyslove]

I dunno if it is or not but you have this under the wrong catagory

Yea I just saw that. Im a noob what you expect :( SOrry Mods :(

[Wizzy]

Post the raid links please.

[chnseboi35]

This thread should be in the General Discussion area.

[Wizzy]

It is now ^_^

[Dbomb123]

no, u are definetely not allowed to do 2 sr runs within 12 hours of each other with the same accounts. members of a crew on fabar did that and were suspended for like 3 days.

[Wizzy]

I wonder how it's being done :-?

[nhake]

†Phöenix Rising†'s Raid Results
Attack Date Raid Name Attackers Result
01-15-08 02:01 pm The Reckoning 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136535)
01-15-08 01:57 pm The Corruptor 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136533)
01-15-08 01:55 pm The Corruptor 5 LOSS View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136530)
01-15-08 01:54 pm The Corruptor 5 LOSS View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136526)
01-15-08 01:47 pm Steinfaust the Ravager 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136518)
01-15-08 01:38 pm Natas the Malevolent 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136484)
01-15-08 01:06 pm The Reckoning 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136481)
01-15-08 01:02 pm The Corruptor 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136477)
01-15-08 12:45 pm Steinfaust the Ravager 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136474)
01-15-08 11:57 am Natas the Malevolent 5 WIN View (http://rancid.outwar.com/raidattack.php?raidid=136437)

straight from their raid log. Wizzy, a crew did that on another server and they used bookmarks to go back to the beginning and do it again. They got a temp suspension out of it.

[drunk989]

the raid mobs dont take 12 hrs to respawn. and you need 2 crates on each account. pretty simple actually. its the mobs in part 1 that take 12 hrs to spawn :)

[NightThaProphet]

always going to be cheaters/glitchers somewhere :/

[deadlyrebel3629]

yep, always someone gonna find a way around everything.

[jZampage]

i dont think there is enough mobs in part 1 to even to 2 runs back to back w/o respawning is there?

[Wizzy]

There isn't.

[Sensational]

i think theres like 5 or 10 more mobs needed to do it.. and they couldnt use a bookmark because after they did stienfaust there was a turn change before they did the corrupter so they wouldnt have been able to get back into first part

[darkpoey]

... Go into SR and have everything ready pre-hand, this is done because they need flasks, finish up the first round like 12 hours later with your other 4, then start the second one(buy another crate) and just do a normal SR run there pretty much using the best of your flasks.

[Z_xCashviLLe]

Why would you people immediatly assume this is glitching or cheating? Doing a double run still requires buying 2 crates per person, so it really isn't any different from doing two seperate runs. The only thing that is different is that you make optimal use of the flasks you buy.

[nhake]

Why would you people immediatly assume this is glitching or cheating? Doing a double run still requires buying 2 crates per person, so it really isn't any different from doing two seperate runs. The only thing that is different is that you make optimal use of the flasks you buy.

people still got a temp suspension for doing it lol.

[jZampage]

Yeah i suppose you could get a crate, kill all 50/50/50 of each - but not talk to the redeemer and kill natas yet - instead you just wait 12 hours to continue on the quest so the mobs respawn, utilize ur flasks / pots - continue killing natas and a full run or w/e you would like, then buy another crate and the spawns are up - its just a 20 minute deal, shouldn't take much longer for a full run at least. Never actually considered this until I worked it out in my head lol

[destinyslove]

Why would you people immediatly assume this is glitching or cheating? Doing a double run still requires buying 2 crates per person, so it really isn't any different from doing two seperate runs. The only thing that is different is that you make optimal use of the flasks you buy.


A crew on Fabar got suspended for doing it. If thats the case then once again my question is. IS IT ALLOWED WITHOUT BEING SUSPENDED?? If not then Rancid crews as well as CS on ZIMBOB should be suspended.

Its a simple question, and I am requesting a answer from ADMINS. I understand saving time on flask/potions/skills/time etc. If its allowed then hey im ALL FOR IT. :)

I just don't need unfair game play if people are getting suspended and others arent.

[Wizzy]

If people payed attention to the Outwar News then everyone should know that Stone Raven is only MEANT to be doable every 12 hours. If you find something that allows you to do it under 12 then you should've consulted a Game Monitor to make sure it is a "legal" way and if you could go ahead and do it.

[simonrobinson]

If people payed attention to the Outwar News then everyone should know that Stone Raven is only MEANT to be doable every 12 hours. If you find something that allows you to do it under 12 then you should've consulted a Game Monitor to make sure it is a "legal" way and if you could go ahead and do it.

its not a glitch or a cheat its actuall good thinking we thought we would do it ourselves in outwar immortals but then decided folk would kick up a fuss so we never did it...
HERES HOW U DO IT 2 RAVEN IN 2 HRS:-
First of all you have to beat all the gods in 1 hr like 40 mins then u hash back to room1 and start the quest all over again all in the same hour.
You then kill all the remaining mobs in room1 so u actually have half of quest 1 completed.
hash back to room 2 to dc all day.
the 2nd run u do on the night you again complete in 40 minutes and hash back to room 1 because u had already killed half mobs at start u now have 50 of each left. so u restart the quest and kill all 50 mobs. thats how it is done u can do 3 ravens for price of 2
i thank you

[BlueLeaf]

On zimbob all big crews do it, don't say it's just CS who does it. And these crews got suspended because everybody was just assuming they were "glitching".

-Cash (from another RGA)

[Sparda1234]

If people payed attention to the Outwar News then everyone should know that Stone Raven is only MEANT to be doable every 12 hours. If you find something that allows you to do it under 12 then you should've consulted a Game Monitor to make sure it is a "legal" way and if you could go ahead and do it.

When FW did it quite awhile back i asked Nick or Zach cant remember which and he said it was fine :p

[Wizzy]

And they got suspended?

[dillonsurdaddy]

i just one do SR once!!! never done it... sad

[qITIp]

The issue with the suspended people was that they did 2 runs using only one crate by using urls.

[Wizzy]

Well that clears up the issue then. lol.

[KrUsNiK01]

it not illegal becoz genesis on rancid did it and pure and sonic is in the crew, if a mod crew does it it not illegal, done deal

[Domination]

it not illegal becoz genesis on rancid did it and pure and sonic is in the crew, if a mod crew does it it not illegal, done deal

or they where simply testing that glitch.

[Ylts]

or they where simply testing that glitch.


lmao, do u belive yourself what u just said? ._.

IF they were testing then why did they keep the items, didnt report admins, etc.?

[simonrobinson]

like i posted earlier its not a glitch any crew can do it if they use there head

[Sparda1234]

And as i said earlia, when FW did it quite awhile back i asked Nick or Zach (i did say it was awhile ago so yes Zach was still there... but i forget who i asked) and they said it was fine.

[xxheroinxx]

The reason for this is just because the crew on fabar only bought 1 Crate.. SR can be done like that but only if you buy 2 crates.. Simple as that.. You can do it twice in a row.. Just buy a crate for each one.. If you don't You get suspended... easy as that.

[jZampage]

I already explained this... why are people continuing to ask questions or feud about it... it's not rocket science.

[nacario]

well that raid log doesnt show the names of the accounts who were doing sr... might have been different accounts, 10, tho you did say it was made by the same paccounts.

[darkpoey]

well, apparently it's illegal now.. >< even with 2 crates

[Sparda1234]

lol thats just silly, they cant say something is against the rules because they dont like the fact that a few people came up with a good idea.

If they dont like that people came up with a good idea they should fix it so the people cant do it not just suspend people for doing it.

[darkpoey]

Agreed... My crew (Rancid server) Just started doing SR, did one double run, and now its against the rules. Really sucks, because we need to use alot of flasks. While PR has been doing double runs for the past month or so? i dont know how long, and they make the rule when we just start doing SR

[jeffers1986]

This is what I mean when I say get it right the first time, dont let something sit for months allowing crews to benefit from it and then change it and give everyone that crap that "this how it was originally intended", just cause someone was smart and thought of a good idea.

[Sensational]

if they wanted to fix it they should put only 50 of each mobs in the first area.. then if you mess up its your fault.. and there wont be any complaining about doing two runs right next to each other ;)

[EBV]

u wonder why people r complaining now about this, when this has been happening on other server forever.... everyon eon other servers do a double run on sr, so either ow should stop it all on all servers or let it be

[Wizzy]

We never did :( At least not that I know of. While I did say that people should check with the Monitors and such if something seems out of what Outwar said it should be, I do agree with Sparda however that they shouldn't be suspended the first time they do it because it was never written in stone that ravening x2 in a row was a nono and it'd qualify as cheating and so on. For all the people cared, they were just being smart.

[SkatrBill]

u wonder why people r complaining now about this, when this has been happening on other server forever.... everyon eon other servers do a double run on sr, so either ow should stop it all on all servers or let it be

i wouldn't complain :) you guys got alot of them in on rancid, just be happy for that.

i agree with the fact that they shouldn't make it a 12 hour space between you should at least be able to do it with in the time that flasks are casted because its just ridiculous and a way for OW to earn a more money. Hopefully this will help raise the price of SR items now :).

[Domination]

i wouldn't complain :) you guys got alot of them in on rancid, just be happy for that.

i agree with the fact that they shouldn't make it a 12 hour space between you should at least be able to do it with in the time that flasks are casted because its just ridiculous and a way for OW to earn a more money. Hopefully this will help raise the price of SR items now :).

Personally i think SR should be sst so it can only be done once a week by a crew, then maybe the economy will balance out abit, there's just way to much SR stuff floating around now. OR it should be add to your god cap.

[SkatrBill]

Personally i think SR should be sst so it can only be done once a week by a crew, then maybe the economy will balance out abit, there's just way to much SR stuff floating around now. OR it should be add to your god cap.

lol, you only think about servers that have been out for a while. you don't care about anything other than what you would like to see. doing this would be crap for rancid cause they wouldn't be able to do SR that much and haven't been able to do it as long as other servers. Please open ur mind and think about things other than what you think is right for the servers you play on.

[Domination]

lol, you only think about servers that have been out for a while. you don't care about anything other than what you would like to see. doing this would be shit for rancid cause they wouldn't be able to do SR that much and haven't been able to do it as long as other servers. Please open ur mind and think about things other than what you think is right for the servers you play on.

Honesty i couldn't care less about rancid its 4 -5 months old, you shouldn't even be able to do SR yet, And yes i considern myself about the 4 legacy servers, the servers that made this game, the ones that are covered with SR and there economies are virually dead. If anything rancid should get that kind of limit to provent that economy from going to shit too.

[SkatrBill]

honesty i couldn't care less about rancid its 4 -5 months old, you shouldn't even be able to do SR yet, And yes i considern myself about the 4 legacy servers the servers that made this game, and the ones that are covered with SR and there economies are virually dead. If anything rancid should get that kind of limit to provent that economy from going to shit too.

The servers didn't make this game? are you stupid lol? and if you don't care about rancid why do you care about its economy? lol if you want to fix its economy just suspended people who sell items like idiots lol... people who are so desperate they sell all their gods instead of handing them out to their crew lol.

i still find it kinda funny you said you didn't care about rancid buy you said something to prevent the economy from going to crap lol.

and economies eventually die if nothing new is being added.

[Slim9092]

Limiting Sring to once a week wouldn't do anything to help the economy right now anyways. Nothing would except new content that requires some new form of elemental potions, otherwise it'll stay the way it is.

[Domination]

The servers didn't make this game? are you stupid lol? and if you don't care about rancid why do you care about its economy? lol if you want to fix its economy just suspended people who sell items like idiots lol... people who are so desperate they sell all their gods instead of handing them out to their crew lol.

i still find it kinda funny you said you didn't care about rancid buy you said something to prevent the economy from going to crap lol.

and economies eventually die if nothing new is being added.

First,you mistake care from fact, that fact is at the rate rancid is going there economy will be dead in 3 months. Second you call me and idiot but yet you suggest to suspend people for just sell items is well idiotic, joking or not its not smart to call someone an idiot and in the same paragraph say something as stupid as that.

[SkatrBill]

First,you mistake care from fact, that fact is at the rate rancid is going there economy will be dead in 3 months. Second you call me and idiot but yet you suggest to suspend people for just sell items is well idiotic, joking or not its not smart to call someone an idiot and in the same paragraph say something as stupid as that.

lol, i was kidding about taht i know ow wouldn't do that i would have said kill or something but thats a little 2 mean ;), and i am not an idiot for saying that. people lower prices so much just cause their items don't sell with in 1 day lol like warlock for example right now, selling a guise/kro book/ag ring/fang bp/ganja neck/ and plagued scrollets for 5k points lol. also selling 2 sigil lfs for 15k each

[Domination]

lol, i was kidding about taht i know ow wouldn't do that i would have said kill or something but thats a little 2 mean ;), and i am not an idiot for saying that. people lower prices so much just cause their items don't sell with in 1 day lol like warlock for example right now, selling a guise/kro book/ag ring/fang bp/ganja neck/ and plagued scrollets for 5k points lol. also selling 2 sigil lfs for 15k each

I know prices are rediculous everywhere a sig lf should be 15k a piece, i hope inferno essences are still selling for over 15k a piece.

[communist baby]

Agreed... My crew (Rancid server) Just started doing SR, did one double run, and now its against the rules. Really sucks, because we need to use alot of flasks. While PR has been doing double runs for the past month or so? i dont know how long, and they make the rule when we just start doing SR

Well I guess that if Genesis whouldn't started complaining about PR doing double runs it still whould have been legal...

[darkpoey]

Well I guess that if Genesis whouldn't started complaining about PR doing double runs it still whould have been legal...

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, Genesis never complained. We just started doing SR and had a double run? Why would we complain? Think before you post.

[SkatrBill]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, Genesis never complained. We just started doing SR and had a double run? Why would we complain? Think before you post.

agreed that guys an clearly not 2 smart.

[communist baby]

agreed that guys an clearly not 2 smart.

I cant say that i think your not 2 smart either. Genesis are crying about everything that makes other crews stronger, just liek all other crews... and if someone tells you that, you have to start talking about how stupid they are in your eyes... Kinda pathetic

[mrpoey]

I cant say that i think your not 2 smart either. Genesis are crying about everything that makes other crews stronger, just liek all other crews... and if someone tells you that, you have to start talking about how stupid they are in your eyes... Kinda pathetic

You really are dumb. All the posts i've made, have been against the no double stone raven rule, Have you even read this thread?

[Sparda1234]

Keep things civilized people :p

http://www.dks-gfx.com/sparda.png
:)

[SkatrBill]

I know prices are rediculous everywhere a sig lf should be 15k a piece, i hope inferno essences are still selling for over 15k a piece.

were not gonna find out how much they sell for and i would think sigil lfs go for atleast 20k each cause if anyone was smart for 15k they would have just bought a zhulian sheild and block auged it cause it would give more atk depending on ur weapon and you could eventually still get a sigil lf. and warlock doesn't have any essences thank the lord, and i doubt PR or Gen will sell them(cause their juts about the only 2 capable crews) and idk if TBH can take Dreg

[SkatrBill]

I cant say that i think your not 2 smart either. Genesis are crying about everything that makes other crews stronger, just liek all other crews... and if someone tells you that, you have to start talking about how stupid they are in your eyes... Kinda pathetic

lol geneis isn't crying, i said i thought it was cool taht i got all the exp on fabar, but when i looked at rancid people getting tons of exp (the majority in PR <-- pointing this out cause idk what you think were crying about) while others have to make up the 10mil or so exp that the people recieved free is kinda annoying to think about. espically when you need to be 18mil exp to be 55 and you have to be 55 to do SR. btw who do we talk about being stupid?

and yes i know they earned the lvl they are but i don't think the exp is well earned, if i would have know this would have happened i would have spent points buying tons of rage potions and dcing my butt off lol

you seem like your a foreigner and if ur from the US i feel sorry for you : /

[jeffers1986]

and yes i know they earned the lvl they are but i don't think the exp is well earned, if i would have know this would have happened i would have spent points buying tons of rage potions and dcing my butt off lol


Dont waste your time dwelling on it, if you had spent the points it prolly wouldve been your luck that the free lvls wouldnt have been given if i know outwar right.