"Ask The Oracle: Spawn Time" What?

[xdante]

This item is a joke...

Whats the point of raiding.....?????

Who else agrees?

[bluedthunder]

well, it's bad that there's outwar turned into outraid...but now they're aiming to kill raiding too...turning it into OutSpendMoney

that's my two cents

[darkpoey]

I do lol if you dont buy one of these things, dont expect to beat Sigil again, all we need is him dying even faster

anyways anyone tested this thing ? whatd it say ?

[Giuseppe]

HORRIBLE update, worst ive ever seen!

[xdante]

update? lol its a crappy ass item..

lets start a vote :)

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[darkpoey]

hmmm next time sigils window is open, i wont bother looking untill i see like half the server starting to camp him hard, LOL

[b_d_vieser]

yeah i agree a very bad idea good job on fuking up raiding

[Mully]

Make sure to try that new item out... It should help your crew reduce those "waiting hours" for gods. Also know, that each perdiction can be different... the more times you get a perdiction, the more you can narrow the spawn time!

What exactly is a PERDICTION? Anyone? I PREDICT someone didn't use spell check..

Has anyone actually activated it yet? How big is the time frame it gives you? :-s

[xdante]

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Follow this and lets get as many votes to get this item removed.........

[DruiD]

Well, the logic behind the idea is good, only bad part is you spend 300 points for a 18 hour time frame, that's not worth no 300 points, every crew knows the beginning and end of the time frame as it is. If sometihng like this is added, needs to be narrowed down to like 6 hours so it's atleast worth using

You all are on here pouting about it without even knowing that it gives an 18 hour time frame, this in no way hinders anything. It needs modified to a lower amount to make it useful

[darkpoey]

euh start a poll next time , and i think the window is like 24 hours or so

[Firestarter]

/me buys one to see when wanhiroeaz spawns :D

[bluedthunder]

Well, the logic behind the idea is good, only bad part is you spend 300 points for a 18 hour time frame, that's not worth no 300 points, every crew knows the beginning and end of the time frame as it is. If sometihng like this is added, needs to be narrowed down to like 6 hours so it's atleast worth using

You all are on here pouting about it without even knowing that it gives an 18 hour time frame, this in no way hinders anything. It needs modified to a lower amount to make it useful

What he said, pointless...as most of us already know the approximate spawn time frame of each god...don't need the stupid oracle to.

lol @ fs...wan is like a less than a 12 hr tf, and oracle will probaly give u a 18 hrs one :-j

[Egnar]

I'm glad it's almost useless - If it gave within a 4-6 hour time frame it allows guilds to skill up before a god even spawns and basically gives the big guilds with the ability to pump all these points (for free mind you just from killing other gods) into purchasing without wincing.

[DruiD]

Alright, so 18 hours = useless, 6 - 10 hours = too much room for preskill


exactly where do you see a fitting time frame number, it's almost useless it's all I'm saying. I agree it's retarded to get it to where a crew can preskill. Only thing I can see they can do is give Dreg and them the same 18 hour (this way no one will buy them anyways) and give the 6 hour on normal gods, this way it's worth buying.

[CaptainCon]

it gave up to a 12 hour so far that i have heard of... STILL unnecessary and rediculous OutWar > OutRaid > OutSpend

[Firestarter]

lol, i consider that thing useless since it doesn't guarantee u that u also win that god. u can camp 1 minute or u can camp 2 days. if u don't get the god, that oracle doesn't help u. but who knows ? maybe we will soon see another item in treasury called: "let the noobs cry, u killed (insert god name here)" that will cost 15 k :D

[DruiD]

It's not unnecessary, it's actually a nice update if you think about it. Just needs a few tweaks here and there. This gives EVERY crew a chance to win gods again. This is hypothetical, but whats the difference between a crew spending 300 points 1 time to win a god they really need, compared to paying 1000's for sosas to take out Nar Zhul and such. Really if you think about it, theirs no difference aside from value of items, it's all in how bad you want it - if it gets lowered to a reasonable amount I believe it'll promote a level playing field for inexperienced crews

[Firestarter]

read my post above , druid. it doesn't help u at all

[DruiD]

Well you can add that argument to any god though. Why spend points on potions to try dreg nor and fail, why buy kinetics and cast them all and lose ganeshan, its' all the same is what I'm getting at. It's about actually having confidence that you can take a god. It's easier for a smaller inexperienced crew to organize around a little time frame is anothe rpoint I'm trying to get across

Us bigger crews already have the routine down and it's standard for us, that's not the case for the up and coming crews

But it too benefits a bigger crew. Say they're missing just 1 SG/LF from a god. They're gonna do everything in their power to make sure they're on the top of their game for that god. Say it's sigil, you buy the oracle, tells you a 6 hour timeframe of when to expect it, you then can organize around that and and lower your raid time by quite a bit. It's all in how bad you want the god lol.

Arguments can go both ways on this really, but that's been the case for every update ow's ever added, some like them, some don't. To me, 18 hour time frame isnt' worth the 300 points to buy it lol - lower time frame? yes probably worth it if you need something that bad

[Firestarter]

meh, who would pay 300 points to get gods like wanhiroeaz - traxodon, cause the other gods are taken by top crews. so up and coming crews won't need the oracle

[CaptainCon]

smaller unorganized crews dont have the points to spend on hopes and dreams of items.

even if they do win they cant gem or sell now because there is no market. and if sigil is getting killed upder 2 minutes as is how is this going to help a small crew who still needs to get more people in the raid then the big guys.... PLUS the big guys have more experience


if it is not broken DO NOT FIX IT

[DruiD]

Well can sit here and argue back and forth with each other all day lol, doesnt' get us anywhere. Seems like they're leaving these time frames huge so completely useless anyways, nice attempt, but it's a dud

[Rampid_Justin]

The items time frame is based on the god.

This item isn't meant to give gods away. This is meant to allow crews that may have no idea when gods are supposed to spawn get an idea, and maybe even help them have plenty of their crew memebers on during that time frame.

[infiniterage666]

So what, it just gives the time frame the god can spawn? Thats already common knowledge pretty much, just the time the god died last time, adding the days before next spawn, then waiting the +/- out =/.


Basically eliminates the math that needs to be done (with any basic calc if your really lazy) seems like a small amount of work for such a large amount of points in these days terrible economies.

[doublejinx]

how about make the oracle be a random mob that pops up in outwar or a random drop...so crews can find it randomly as they dc...and as we start to use it..we will wantto use it more and will start buying it....kind of like the neighborhood crack dealer..hook the people first with the free taste..and then make them pay..

[DruiD]

sounds like you know a little too much about being a crackhead lol

[Rampid_Justin]

So what, it just gives the time frame the god can spawn? Thats already common knowledge pretty much, just the time the god died last time, adding the days before next spawn, then waiting the +/- out =/.


Basically eliminates the math that needs to be done (with any basic calc if your really lazy) seems like a small amount of work for such a large amount of points in these days terrible economies.

Not everyone has seen our source code. A lot of newer crews don't even know that there is a method to the spawning madness. Not only that, but this item gives you a random time frame that contains the spawn time. Not only that, but the time frame given is shorter than you can come up with on your own.

This item wasn't meant for crews that send out weekly reports on when to start camping gods.

[HideOut]

Lmao......

[Son]

Okay time for my 2Cent flame. Sorry outwar you know i love ya but! Anyone with half a brain would look for a faq on outwar, or ask a friend, and most people would search for some kind of help to see if theres an easier way to kill gods, if not then that crew/person is not ready to take a god yet, the only way would revolve around sheer luck. This oricle thing may have been a good idea but is being used completely wrong. Its just another way to make a quick penny off of the players in outwar, hey new item gotta buy pts to see just how good it is. Well I dont think in any way this helps because a new player to this game would NOT and i repeat, would NOT buy points to get this upgrade without some basic knowledge of the game unless their throwing money out the window anyways. And if they had basic knowledge of the game they would check the wiki of outwar. Sure this may help the bigger crews with tens of thousands of pts to spend on seeing when sigil spawns but your NOT helping the smaller people here. Okay sorry for my rant but there you go. Also the price range is way outta whack on this, i like the spawn mob idea, Should do it except have him spawn in a random dc place able to be killed by anyone but with a very low droprate. Like malcom droprate.

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[Firestarter]

in fact the oracle is in treasury for all the people if u didn't notice, they are not conditioning u to buy points in order to get it

[Egnar]

meh, who would pay 300 points to get gods like wanhiroeaz - traxodon, cause the other gods are taken by top crews. so up and coming crews won't need the oracle
Not entirely true. I'm not in a top crew, but, my crew could 100% take something important like Quiver completely unskilled.

[ItachiUchiha]

Meh I'm kinda iffy on getting that item. 300 points for the item. I heard one of the SR items cost that much now lol. However the item is useless to some but isn't useless to others. Newer and up-and-coming crews would use this is they idn't know the routine on when gods spawn. I personally wouldn't get it though.

[Wizzy]

Quiver, The Renegade Prediction Results
Recieved:02-20-2008 8:49pm
From:Outwar Oracle
Thank you for purchasing my services TF0storage. I have focused my powers on Quiver, The Renegade, and have determined that the next spawn time will be between:

February 20, 2008, 10:12pm and February 21, 2008, 4:12pm

I hope this information is of use to you.

Yeah I'm not buying that again...lol...Well then again it narrowed it from 60hr to 18hrs..hmmmm

[Firestarter]

i wonder if we get a refund in case the oracle fails :D

[nhake]

Not everyone has seen our source code. A lot of newer crews don't even know that there is a method to the spawning madness. Not only that, but this item gives you a random time frame that contains the spawn time. Not only that, but the time frame given is shorter than you can come up with on your own.

This item wasn't meant for crews that send out weekly reports on when to start camping gods.

300 points eliminates getting money back from 80% of the gods. Now, the upper 20% that are worth it most top crews can take, but they already know spawn times....so this oracle is worthless. Especially when the spawn times are so far apart they can still miss the god. This pretty much limits the buyers to n00bs with points (still lots of them though :D). OW is missing out on the large portion of players to try and sell this too.

[DuduZillaMic]

If u ask me the Oracle thingy would be nicer as a crew upgrade, make it permanent not a 1 time thing.

[sirjohn159]

Well in the news update it said

Make sure to try that new item out... It should help your crew reduce those "waiting hours" for gods. Also know, that each prediction can be different... the more times you get a prediction, the more you can narrow the spawn time!

Thats it for now! More updates soon... -=MagicNiCK

So maybe if you buy 5-10 of those you'll get like a one hour time frame

[Firestarter]

and then u will ask yourself if it worths paying 1500 or so to narrow it to 1 hour time frame and then lose the god to some other crew, rofl :D

[Domination]

This oracle things is great for new crews, some big crews might use it usually they already have a good idea when its already going to spawn anyways. but it is abit over priced i think though.

[Neubie]

nvm good idea lol

[BiPolarGod]

Okay time for my 2Cent flame. Sorry outwar you know i love ya but! Anyone with half a brain would look for a faq on outwar, or ask a friend, and most people would search for some kind of help to see if theres an easier way to kill gods, if not then that crew/person is not ready to take a god yet, the only way would revolve around sheer luck. This oricle thing may have been a good idea but is being used completely wrong. Its just another way to make a quick penny off of the players in outwar, hey new item gotta buy pts to see just how good it is. Well I dont think in any way this helps because a new player to this game would NOT and i repeat, would NOT buy points to get this upgrade without some basic knowledge of the game unless their throwing money out the window anyways. And if they had basic knowledge of the game they would check the wiki of outwar. Sure this may help the bigger crews with tens of thousands of pts to spend on seeing when sigil spawns but your NOT helping the smaller people here. Okay sorry for my rant but there you go. Also the price range is way outta whack on this, i like the spawn mob idea, Should do it except have him spawn in a random dc place able to be killed by anyone but with a very low droprate. Like malcom droprate.

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I concur "It's called reading between the lines"
@ some point we all must learn to walk.. Figure things out on our own.
If this was for a n00b crew then make it really for them How about added something like a head start for them Let it be where they get a few mins headstart that way then maybe it would be of some use to them..


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[GAGE]

the time frame should be 4 hours that way people can skill accounts if its for a big god and just wait for it to spawn and then cast tomes, or another way would be to give the person who click it his crew say a 30 second head start, where if he clicks say sigil, sigil is then removed from the list so no1 eles can pick it, so when sigil spawns no crew can form or join for 30 seconds, then after the 30 seconds is up everyone eles can join if the crew aint beat it

[Rampid_Justin]

the time frame should be 4 hours that way people can skill accounts if its for a big god and just wait for it to spawn and then cast tomes, or another way would be to give the person who click it his crew say a 30 second head start, where if he clicks say sigil, sigil is then removed from the list so no1 eles can pick it, so when sigil spawns no crew can form or join for 30 seconds, then after the 30 seconds is up everyone eles can join if the crew aint beat it

That was one of the reasons we didn't make it that low. We didn't want to make it so easy that you could just skill up right before hand.

Like stated before, the Oracle gives a better prediction than you could guess before, by a good amount (18hrs vs 60hrs for that god, and around the same ratio for the rest).

[Firestarter]

hmm, looks like oracle is useful on certain occasions. i think i saw somewhere that if u use oracle second time for the same god, u would get a shorter time frame than the first time. is it correct, justin ?

[BiPolarGod]

hmm, looks like oracle is useful on certain occasions. i think i saw somewhere that if u use oracle second time for the same god, u would get a shorter time frame than the first time. is it correct, justin ?
If not that would be something good to think about adding.

[Firestarter]

yup . 6 hours time frames should be the lowest u can get. just a thought ;) i never used any oracle and i hardly doubt i will use any if i keep killing the same gods as i do now, but this idea would be nice, as i'm sure top crews buy oracles for certain gods

[BiPolarGod]

yup . 6 hours time frames should be the lowest u can get. just a thought ;) i never used any oracle and i hardly doubt i will use any if i keep killing the same gods as i do now, but this idea would be nice, as i'm sure top crews buy oracles for certain gods
Maybe they will think about adding that 6 hour time frame would be cool

[tourettecowboy]

it still sucks! and would not waste my points for it not for a one time use maybe if they made it where you could use it over and over then maybe..