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Dante67
02-17-2008, 01:27 PM
I have noticed that recently the Oblivion Blade and Breastplate have been buffed. Which is good considering Oblivion was supposed to be leetness to the nth degree when it came out. My question is why haven't the other pieces been buffed? No one wanted the blade or breastplate in the last 6 months because they were weaker then current items. The only pieces worth having were the boots and the belt. Why just buff 2 pieces and not the entire set?

Tricky
02-17-2008, 01:30 PM
belt and boots are still leet...not really sure why a buff is necessary. only zhul belt is better than obliv belt.

darkpoey
02-17-2008, 01:33 PM
belt and boots are still leet...not really sure why a buff is necessary. only zhul belt is better than obliv belt.

boots, not leet anymore(woz boots) belt, not bad i guess

Dante67
02-17-2008, 01:35 PM
Boots are outdone now by the new sandals from the WoZ wave but still why not upgrade the ring, shield, or neck? You need to make all of the pieces desireable not just a select few.

Edit: I have now noticed the shield has been buffed as well.

Swudeson
02-17-2008, 01:39 PM
Shield has been upgraded ;)

GAGE
02-17-2008, 01:40 PM
I think the buff is pretty poor all they did was update hp that’s pretty much it only item that got a stat increase was the helm it got 44 more rage and 15 more resist the only real buff was if u had a full set u get 500 att and 2k hp

people need to stop comparing zhul items to oblivion, cause zhul items are a resist item that’s where they got them from a resist update it was given to u at the end of each wave to help with the next wave, just so happened they had the best stats at the time, but zhul still is the best at what it was suppose to be and that is resist

sabia
02-17-2008, 01:40 PM
I have noticed that recently the Oblivion Blade and Breastplate have been buffed. Which is good considering Oblivion was supposed to be leetness to the nth degree when it came out. My question is why haven't the other pieces been buffed? No one wanted the blade or breastplate in the last 6 months because they were weaker then current items. The only pieces worth having were the boots and the belt. Why just buff 2 pieces and not the entire set?

agree a bit on that, but 44 atk on the blade is pointless, they should have added resist damage instead

Wizzy
02-17-2008, 01:41 PM
What are the exact buffs on each item?

GAGE
02-17-2008, 01:43 PM
there is no exact buffs tyhats the thing it looks like they picked a few items at random and said lets give them more hp, cause ring belt and feet aint changed, but if u have a full set thats the only real buff so u better put waynes full set on cause u get 500 att and 2k hp for the set bonus

Dante67
02-17-2008, 01:46 PM
The blade, breastplate, and shield were all crap compared to other items so no one wanted them. So now it's like hey you had your chance to choose these but by choosing the leetest ones at the time here's a slap in the face. Had you have chosen the weaker items you'd have 400 more hp now. Have a nice day!

Wizzy
02-17-2008, 01:46 PM
Oh. lol? more hp? that's it? rofls. That's like saying you'd give a snail a bigger shell...may have more room but it'll still be slow...you haven't really helped it move faster.

Elwood
02-17-2008, 01:47 PM
Oblivion needs a better boots.. SR needs to be upgraded or atleast get the new SR underway faster.. i'm bored doing nothing but dc'ing especially when outwar is slowwwww

Dante67
02-17-2008, 01:50 PM
Oblivion needs a better boots.. SR needs to be upgraded or atleast get the new SR underway faster.. i'm bored doing nothing but dc'ing especially when outwar is slowwwww

Amen to that. Buff the boots!

sabia
02-17-2008, 02:27 PM
add more resist damage to the blade

Elwood
02-17-2008, 02:31 PM
Amen to that. Buff the boots!

rofl.. that was actually a typpo on my part.. I meant to say boosts* but hey buff the boots too ;)

qITIp
02-17-2008, 02:41 PM
ATK From Items: 900 me with reforged
ATK From Items: 1,014 leetg with full obliv

Full set is insane now, was hoping to have my belt buffed a bit, but i can understand why they did those 3.

Is partial set bonus buffed too now?

Rampid_Justin
02-17-2008, 02:44 PM
ATK From Items: 900 me with reforged
ATK From Items: 1,014 leetg with full obliv

Full set is insane now, was hoping to have my belt buffed a bit, but i can understand why they did those 3.

Is partial set bonus buffed too now?

Yes, partial set is based off full set.

qITIp
02-17-2008, 02:48 PM
Is there a running calculation or is it set, like two peices gives this, three gives this. I checked mitche10 on fabar and enless i remember wrong thats the same bonus for attack.

Either way it is nice to see things being changed. I am back to wanting obliv head again ;)

Dante67
02-17-2008, 03:04 PM
It would be set I assume. Just like any other set. I do like the fact that it is finally being upgraded.

nacario
02-17-2008, 03:13 PM
...or maybe admins are still testing to see what needs to be upgraded in the near future - which is why one of you should make a post here informing us :>

Elwood
02-17-2008, 03:21 PM
...or maybe admins are still testing to see what needs to be upgraded in the near future - which is why one of you should make a post here informing us :>

I think Justin did make a post here informing us about the set bonus with full items or partial items :| I could be wrong though but look ^^^ and you'll see Rampid_Justin

Dante67
02-17-2008, 04:23 PM
I think what he means is an announcement that Oblivion is getting upgraded since I heard it through the grapevine that the stats were being changed. Something like that should be announced so that everyone is aware.

schietstoel
02-17-2008, 04:34 PM
hmm seems like not all the boots are buffed, on fabar there is atleast 1 dude with buffed boots but mine aint changed =/

Egnar
02-17-2008, 04:40 PM
there is no exact buffs tyhats the thing it looks like they picked a few items at random and said lets give them more hp, cause ring belt and feet aint changed, but if u have a full set thats the only real buff so u better put waynes full set on cause u get 500 att and 2k hp for the set bonus
I think the point was to make it weaker then a few things if you use it alone but it becomes a lot more powerful together. HP buff used to be 1k if I recall so in total (not counting items) you just buffed yourself 1k hp and 250 attack.

Firestarter
02-17-2008, 04:49 PM
hmm seems like not all the boots are buffed, on fabar there is atleast 1 dude with buffed boots but mine aint changed =/


post stats of the upgraded boots pls, i haven't seen any of those on sigil

Dante67
02-17-2008, 05:32 PM
Yes please, my boots need some loving if that's true.

ghost5
02-17-2008, 06:12 PM
I think I saw a pair with 657 hp. Popstars or gangsters top 15. it was a quick scan

crudedude
02-17-2008, 07:46 PM
http://fabar.outwar.com/itemlink.php?id=2627008909&owner=5343
upgraded obliv boots 653 hp

GAGE
02-17-2008, 08:59 PM
i thought the update was gonna be alot better than it was, i werent thinking an update like sevens multi but a stat increase i thought was gonna happen but we are still at 175, so i take it u now need like 3 sets on outwar, oblivion for raiding, zhul for resist and reforged blade/sacred blade and woz items and sr items for stats :|

SkatrBill
02-18-2008, 12:29 AM
someone want to post all the new stats? plz and thankss :).

Megadeth
02-18-2008, 01:50 AM
My boots havent been buffed yet :S

JoeNelly
02-18-2008, 02:11 AM
http://fabar.outwar.com/itemlink.php?id=2627008909&owner=5343
upgraded obliv boots 653 hp

Wow, those are some SWEET boots. I wish I could just waste a lot of money and buy a pair. My animated boots of valor got old reeeeal fast.

Boots
02-18-2008, 09:37 AM
Wow, so oblivion still sucks... The upgrade is supposibly only HP (big deal considering the WoZ boots will have more HP and wayyyy better stats). You know when it takes months to get a peice of a set then it gets outdone by something that took 2 days then something is wrong. My question is: WHY would you make WoZ items so much better then oblivion when oblivion is supposee to be the best set in the game and takes forever to get!

exdbx
02-18-2008, 10:19 AM
Wow, so oblivion still sucks... The upgrade is supposibly only HP (big deal considering the WoZ boots will have more HP and wayyyy better stats). You know when it takes months to get a peice of a set then it gets outdone by something that took 2 days then something is wrong. My question is: WHY would you make WoZ items so much better then oblivion when oblivion is supposee to be the best set in the game and takes forever to get!

It is the best SET in the game, and by set i mean SET not just single items.

papercut36
02-18-2008, 09:10 PM
It is the best SET in the game, and by set i mean SET not just single items.


Yes, I believe this is the main point everyone is forgetting, Obliv is a set, woz is not a set. lame

GAGE
02-18-2008, 11:47 PM
who in there right mind would get a full oblvion set when the stats are as low as they are?

Domination
02-18-2008, 11:51 PM
who in there right mind would get a full oblvion set when the stats are as low as they are?

Anyone with already crappy stuff and other just to say they've had it. Mind you it not really worth the effort to get it all. you better off with SR stuff less hassel.

Egnar
02-18-2008, 11:58 PM
I think what everyone else is also forgetting is that Oblivion has been out for years. It's hard to get, yes, but it's still been out for well over a year now. Why shouldn't the newest item be better then it?

I was all for it getting a boost because its limelight faded very fast but in all seriousness lets look to the past.

When elemental was big. . .What was better? Gods
When noc was big. . .What was better? Gods
When destructive was big. . .What was better? Gods

Even when these sets were 'the best' there were always better single items, the same remains here. Keeping in mind of course a few things.
1) The set bonus for oblivion now is immense.
2) The sword gives 348 attack +500 (for the set) meaning someone with full oblivion has +848 attack (+fire damage) making it better then reforged.
3)If the stats for all the items on outwarzone are correct then full oblivion nets you +6022 hp. A person wearing lucky enough to get both lordly boots and the AA and has a +600 hp item in every other slot will have +5400 hp.
4) On top of wearing a full set giving you amazing primary stats it also has +19% block making it easy to max with no block augments, 25% resistance to all elements and puts you close to max crit. Oh, right. . .It also gives you the 5th augment slot free!

I think oblivion was newly designed well. It's not amazing alone but when you have the whole thing you have. . .the best.

Domination
02-19-2008, 12:02 AM
When elemental was big. . .What was better? Gods
When noc was big. . .What was better? Gods
When destructive was big. . .What was better? Gods



That noc belt was used by everyone for the longest time even when there was gods. something good always comes out of sets when there released.

for example..

Noc:belt (was the best for the longest time)
Dest:Pants (where best pants when released)

Egnar
02-19-2008, 12:09 AM
Dest pants were the best for the longest time because the destructive set coincided with the release of pants.

Also, I remember Oblivion belt being one of, if not the best belt for a pretty long time, as well.

Domination
02-19-2008, 12:10 AM
Dest pants were the best for the longest time because the destructive set coincided with the release of pants.

Also, I remember Oblivion belt being one of, if not the best belt for a pretty long time, as well.

its to bad about decay ...the forgotten set. personally i think there should be a sacred order set. new piece released once a year. It would give lvl +60's something to do

Egnar
02-19-2008, 12:11 AM
If I remember correctly noc and decay were released at the same time which is pretty much why it was left in the dirt.

Itai
02-19-2008, 12:29 AM
its to bad about decay ...the forgotten set.

hehe, there are more sets that have totally been forgotten... Octave set isnt extremely popular. And when the Dissimulation and Extrimity set was introduced after the government set, they immediately became as useless as the Cobalt and Gangland set :P

AND talk about FORGOTTEN set... when outwar FORGOT to add neck, ring, shield and weapon on the Bushido set!

Domination
02-19-2008, 12:33 AM
cobalt probably the most legendary of them all, everyone thats been around since its release has woren one and high lvls out of boredom gem them haha :P

GAGE
02-19-2008, 12:51 AM
lol @ comparing sets to god items, are u that stupid this set comes for gods so in theroy should be better than gods and how its set aint good its lame, 15 soulgems for 175 175 is poor it needs a stat increase simple as, yes its a set but a set from GODS so dont compare it to them lame sets like u did

Wizzy
02-19-2008, 07:34 AM
I think what everyone else is also forgetting is that Oblivion has been out for years. It's hard to get, yes, but it's still been out for well over a year now. Why shouldn't the newest item be better then it?

I was all for it getting a boost because its limelight faded very fast but in all seriousness lets look to the past.

When elemental was big. . .What was better? Gods
When noc was big. . .What was better? Gods
When destructive was big. . .What was better? Gods

Even when these sets were 'the best' there were always better single items, the same remains here. Keeping in mind of course a few things.
1) The set bonus for oblivion now is immense.
2) The sword gives 348 attack +500 (for the set) meaning someone with full oblivion has +848 attack (+fire damage) making it better then reforged.
3)If the stats for all the items on outwarzone are correct then full oblivion nets you +6022 hp. A person wearing lucky enough to get both lordly boots and the AA and has a +600 hp item in every other slot will have +5400 hp.
4) On top of wearing a full set giving you amazing primary stats it also has +19% block making it easy to max with no block augments, 25% resistance to all elements and puts you close to max crit. Oh, right. . .It also gives you the 5th augment slot free!

I think oblivion was newly designed well. It's not amazing alone but when you have the whole thing you have. . .the best.

Getting Elemental, Noc and Destructive sets have become relatively easier and cheaper. Getting Oblivion is still rather difficult as it used to when it first came out...Hence it should be boosted.

Someone tried to use the argument that "Why shouldn't Synge items be boosted then since you want Oblivion boost?" ...simply put, my multi crew can beat Synge as opposed to two years ago. My multi crew cannot take all the 15 guardians needed for one oblivion piece.

xxheroinxx
02-19-2008, 07:49 AM
Hey.. I still think with this update.. Oblivion Pants become the thing to get :) ... FTW... I enjoy the stats increase.. making it +225 ept and rpt would be nice.. but don't want them to outdo nar zhul gods... Just think about the happy medium we all can enjoy :)

Good fix.. And I'm not just saying that cause i got oblivion pants 10 hours before the oblivion was changed. :)

Egnar
02-19-2008, 09:21 AM
lol @ comparing sets to god items, are u that stupid this set comes for gods so in theroy should be better than gods and how its set aint good its lame, 15 soulgems for 175 175 is poor it needs a stat increase simple as, yes its a set but a set from GODS so dont compare it to them lame sets like u did
And if you look at the full comparison as a set it is. By honestly why should a set coming from the first 15 gods, regardless of difficult be trumping gods from the Top 5 gods?

Oblivion was set up perfectly. Piece by piece it's not stronger then top gods but together it is.

capkloud
02-19-2008, 06:52 PM
personally i think there should be a sacred order set. new piece released once a year. It would give lvl +60's something to do

no, no they shouldn't.it would end up another thing like life forces and then gods would be dying even quicker to get the items, and then even more accusations of people cheating, then more "security measures" being put in place, which would only help until someone in a top crew found a way around the new security (already done ;).oh, lets also not forget the fact that that idea sucks ass.

Boots
02-19-2008, 07:35 PM
Difference between ele/noc/etc being compared to oblivion is oblivion you get from GOD raids that spawn 1-6 days. These God's dont auto-drop SG's, they dont stay up all day, they're the hardest raids in the game besides dreg. So, how can you compare oblivion to ele? Once theres a NEW set of raids to do that makes quiver/sigil/etc. stay up longer then 5 mins then I can understand not updating oblivion. But, with all the competetion for these gods oblivion needs to have an upgrade. Theres nothing hardere besides reforged/blade to get. So... make it worth out while.

Dante67
02-20-2008, 08:34 AM
Difference between ele/noc/etc being compared to oblivion is oblivion you get from GOD raids that spawn 1-6 days. These God's dont auto-drop SG's, they dont stay up all day, they're the hardest raids in the game besides dreg. So, how can you compare oblivion to ele? Once theres a NEW set of raids to do that makes quiver/sigil/etc. stay up longer then 5 mins then I can understand not updating oblivion. But, with all the competetion for these gods oblivion needs to have an upgrade. Theres nothing hardere besides reforged/blade to get. So... make it worth out while.

Agreed. Also I'd like to know when the Oblivion boots on Sigil server is gonna get the raised stats like the ones on Fabar? Raising stats on just some servers is getting too ridiculous. Either raise on all servers or don't raise them damn it.

GAGE
02-20-2008, 10:45 AM
Difference between ele/noc/etc being compared to oblivion is oblivion you get from GOD raids that spawn 1-6 days. These God's dont auto-drop SG's, they dont stay up all day, they're the hardest raids in the game besides dreg. So, how can you compare oblivion to ele? Once theres a NEW set of raids to do that makes quiver/sigil/etc. stay up longer then 5 mins then I can understand not updating oblivion. But, with all the competetion for these gods oblivion needs to have an upgrade. Theres nothing hardere besides reforged/blade to get. So... make it worth out while.

I dont even know why u bother cody, you could say the sky is blue and he would argue and say it werent thats all he does on here

Egnar
02-20-2008, 11:07 AM
It's rather funny to me that people are ignoring the facts of the matter because there single pieces aren't "1337" enough.

Boots
02-20-2008, 11:27 AM
the SET as a whole isn't leet enough.

Your stats will be far lower then a set you could get with far less work.
Your HP will be only 1k or so if any higher considering the neck/feet from WoZ (that took only luck to get) have huge HP, and the rest of the items like but helm, and ele preserver have nice hp aswell.
You get what, 50 more attack then you would with a reforged? Sounds good to me... But the problem with that is STAT wise you wont be competetive.

GAGE
02-20-2008, 12:05 PM
the full oblivion set offers this :

+348 ATK
+200 Fire
+4,022 HP
+19% block
+1,626 rage per hr
+1,626 exp per h
+113% rampage
+19,133 max rage
+79% critical hit

hp aint spot on cause pure aint updated all the new hp

and heres the SR set u can get in an hour

+348 ATK
+3,482 HP
+300 Shadow
+17% block
+1,325 rage per hr
+1,238 exp per hr
+129% rampage
+15,744 max rage
+64% critical hit

remeber the SR set dont have pants so that set is minus pants

so just compare u can spend what 3 months trying to get a full oblvion set to feel the bouns but even when u have it u still only just about have better stats than a full SR set that takes like an hour to do, and u still dont think it needs a stat increase?
the stats should be 220 rage and 220 xp on every item

Domination
02-20-2008, 12:20 PM
the full oblivion set offers this :

+348 ATK
+200 Fire
+4,022 HP
+19% block
+1,626 rage per hr
+1,626 exp per h
+113% rampage
+19,133 max rage
+79% critical hit

hp aint spot on cause pure aint updated all the new hp

and heres the SR set u can get in an hour

+348 ATK
+3,482 HP
+300 Shadow
+17% block
+1,325 rage per hr
+1,238 exp per hr
+129% rampage
+15,744 max rage
+64% critical hit

remeber the SR set dont have pants so that set is minus pants

so just compare u can spend what 3 months trying to get a full oblvion set to feel the bouns but even when u have it u still only just about have better stats than a full SR set that takes like an hour to do, and u still dont think it needs a stat increase?
the stats should be 220 rage and 220 xp on every item

Thats a good point, looking at that i agree oblivion need updating.

Egnar
02-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Ok, Gage, but if you're going to compare full sets you should probably add the +2000 hp and +500 attack you get for wearing full oblivion. Making your stats more like. . .

+848 attack
+6022 HP

You can't compare full sets without adding the set bonus to Oblivion. That's like comparing Wrath of Gods to Proton and saying Wrath is better because you don't account its attack.

GAGE
02-20-2008, 12:48 PM
Ok, Gage, but if you're going to compare full sets you should probably add the +2000 hp and +500 attack you get for wearing full oblivion. Making your stats more like. . .

+848 attack
+6022 HP

You can't compare full sets without adding the set bonus to Oblivion. That's like comparing Wrath of Gods to Proton and saying Wrath is better because you don't account its attack.

are u that stupid that u cannot read??????

we are talking STATS not hp and att STATS rage and xp, open your eyes and read what is posted not going off in your own little direction the STATS on oblivion suck, comapred to items u get in SR which take an hour max to get probley 80% of that sets so u really think a little hp makes up for that? cause i dont

from now on if u aint gonna read what people are saying in this thread dont post to get ya post count up

Egnar
02-20-2008, 12:56 PM
I wasn't aware that HP and Attack weren't stats. In fact they're primary stats. You're referring to secondary stats. All you've proven is that Oblivion is better in every stat except Rampage which doesn't matter because it still over the 100% rampage mark.

medman
02-21-2008, 12:43 AM
better, sure. but barely. with the competition for oblivion so much higher than the 0 competition for SR, then time it takes for the drops of the SGs, and such, I personally do nto think that 2.5k HP and 750 atk and slightly better real stats are worth the time (or money) involved

Firestarter
02-21-2008, 12:50 AM
lol @ primary and secondary stats. i would always want rage/exp instead of + 500 hp or whatever bonus u get. atatck/hp only help u in raids and i doubt u have 40 oblivion sets in a crew, rofl. only guy i know having a full oblivion set (at least on sigil) is wayne. so attack/hp u get from bonus is crap. i bet people are more interested in exp/rage/max rage rather than hp and attack

Padrino
02-21-2008, 12:26 PM
Oblivion boots should be better then the zhul boots, since it takes an entire crew to get an oblivion piece, and getting the zhul boots took way less time and effort. Increase the oblivion boots hp and lower the zhul a couple hundred.

Egnar
02-21-2008, 12:28 PM
lol @ primary and secondary stats. i would always want rage/exp instead of + 500 hp or whatever bonus u get. atatck/hp only help u in raids and i doubt u have 40 oblivion sets in a crew, rofl. only guy i know having a full oblivion set (at least on sigil) is wayne. so attack/hp u get from bonus is crap. i bet people are more interested in exp/rage/max rage rather than hp and attack

Did you ever consider the only reason people don't have more Oblivion is because it used to suck and wasn't worth making?

xxheroinxx
02-21-2008, 12:40 PM
Did you ever consider that the SGs are alittle harder to get most the time then most people think? Unless you got alot of points to throw around its hard to get them.

Firestarter
02-21-2008, 04:42 PM
it used to suck and it will suck in the future too. tell me who would be able to get a whole set to enjoy its bonus ? most of the people who got oblivion picked boots or belt, cause those were the slots decent enough and now those are the weakest of all oblivion items. so yeah, oblivion sucked as soon as stoneraven was added and it will suck more from now on everytime new items are added.

Jesse
02-21-2008, 11:07 PM
Wow, so oblivion still sucks... The upgrade is supposibly only HP (big deal considering the WoZ boots will have more HP and wayyyy better stats). You know when it takes months to get a peice of a set then it gets outdone by something that took 2 days then something is wrong. My question is: WHY would you make WoZ items so much better then oblivion when oblivion is supposee to be the best set in the game and takes forever to get!

Oblivian is alo what 2 years old??? The best today is not always the best tomorrow....




Do you own a computer?

Wizzy
02-21-2008, 11:10 PM
It's still as difficult to get as it was two years ago :p that stats should reflect that in the midst of the items that are out today.

xShocKx
02-23-2008, 01:36 PM
Oblivion isn't two years old, and it was supposed to be the best when it came out, it was for a very short period. Zach said the set was supposed to be the best items for a long while, and then SR came out and other items that just trashed on Oblivion. It never got the update it deserved long ago.

Rampid_Justin
02-23-2008, 01:49 PM
HP/ATK will make you better in raids AND PvP.

Gamer
02-23-2008, 02:48 PM
in the ammounts of this upgrade it has an small effect only

OutRawr
02-23-2008, 05:47 PM
THE BEST SET SET SET Are you people Listening IT IS THE BEST SET IN THE GAME Zach 9who no longer works for rampid said it will be the best SET)

People miss understood and thought it would be the best ITEMS


Oblivon Set Attack/Hp > Reforged With The Best Hp Set you can get



SO IT IS THE BEST SET SET SET

Deathbringerxxx
02-23-2008, 06:35 PM
i think the hp on the breastplate is a wee bit high...other than that, i think the upgrades to the set are good.

Returnoflazlo
02-24-2008, 08:16 AM
oblivion set are leet stop complaining !