Shdw Dmg / Debuffs

[TechnoDestructo]

Here is some data I threw together with Shadow Damage and how much it effects the debuffs of my Green/Black character. I actually believe it's not effecting the damage but only INT Spell DMG effects the debuff dps. Perhaps it will be helpful or you could get more out of it than me.


0 - Shadow Damage (221 INT, 169 MYST) 64 SPELL DMG

Infest

156
154
141
164
127

Exude

141
138
144
126
150
137

68 - Shadow Damage (254 INT, 169 MYST) 77 SPELL DMG

Infest

161
164
178
147
161

Exude

167
137
174
152
143
152

136 - Shadow Damage (315 INT, 169 MYST) 102 SPELL DMG

Infest

174
173
179
182
197

Exude

163
160
185
167
185
155


189 - Shadow Damage (376 INT, 169 MYST) 126 SPELL DMG

Infest

209
180
199
197
183

Exude

166
188
198
190
166
176

242 - Shadow Damage 142 (416 INT, 183 MYST) 142 SPELL DMG

Infest

191
215
200
196
226

Exude

206
179
188
184
204
193

307 - Shadow Damage (433 INT, 171 MYST) 149 SPELL DMG

Infest

230
227
229
246
235

Exude

207
211
206
191
199
208


377 - Shadow Damage (461 INT, 183 MYST) 160 SPELL DMG

Infest

245
235
243
231
229

Exude

208
209
217
224
236
214

430 - Shadow Damage (526 INT, 192 MYST) 186 SPELL DMG

Infest

254
267
259
260
267

Exude

223
235
212
241
217
218

Little STR totals...

STR - 287

339
220
178
251
259
274
510 - crit
345
164
288

STR - 364

346
270
231
260
428
292
351
342
319
337

[NizzamusJerkheart]

You know, now that you bring this up I did notice that all my shadow spell power wasn't really helping my debuffs. They should definitely do something about this because they are spells are they not? lol.

[Lann625]

and what I find odd is my pestilence hit MORE before I got my nice shadow gear

[Ryuzaki]

This needs to be looked at.

[NizzamusJerkheart]

I wish more ppl would look at this thread and reply lol

[xFear]

And when u cast FoD does Infest/Burden/Exude actually hit for that 10% more?

[NizzamusJerkheart]

Pretty sure FoD works

[Kakarot]

with FOD the extra 10% u get fear is like an extra 10-20 damage on debuffs and like 100 extra damage on like syphon, so errr no FOD sucks esp when you have 8k health and drop to 5k for that little crappy bit of an increase on shadow damage

[Truama]

I got FoF and that plus 25% from weaken + another 25% if they are red too and if i am in full caster my dots can easily do 6-8k =D

which is around 6-750 a tick~

[Kakarot]

that is the other thing i would like admin to look into, is FOF should only deal with fire damage overall not any color, its not called Force Of Flames for no reason thats just my thought on that one. cause blue doesnt affect its 2nd color neither does green or black nor white so why is it that the FOF affects any color should just be Fire damage should it not... Also i would like admin to look in FOD as well cause the 10% gain is not worth the 30% loose in health no offence, but 100 extra damage over 3k health ya not really worth it, if anything make it even like gain 10% loose 10% somethin like that effect also Kamakazi for blacks we can bind ourself so why not add a rune of kamakazi you deal the ammount of damage you have left from your mana balls to your dealt opponent. so if you have 10 black mana itd deal like 7-8k or somethin if you have 1 mana its like 1k hit and auto death just to add some fun to blacks

[Truama]

Your just jelous ^^ Red/blacks are ment for dps in raids and we suck in pvp.....Black/blues are still good in raids but red blacks are the dmg dealers of the grp~

[Kakarot]

no actually im not i deal about 5-7k in dps on casters with my gear so no im just pointing out that people who use FOF to inhance there other colors damage is crap like u do obviously esp if your dps is high when u use FOF its showing my point shouldnt affect black or any other spell color sry

[Truama]

It says it in the description INCREAES SPELL POWER, doesn't specify only fire spell dmg, so its clearly not a bug~

[Kakarot]

and again ive posted on which other color class does the Force Of ______ skill affect the other color??? FOF should ONLY be FIRE damage like every other color.

[xFear]

I think FoD should be 15% more damage because of the 30% health being took away. ( Thats alot of health) =/

[TehNo0b]

and again ive posted on which other color class does the Force Of ______ skill affect the other color??? FOF should ONLY be FIRE damage like every other color.

FOF clearly states on the spell that it effects all spells. And it also makes us take on loads more dmg. Basically red/blacks are like a bomb.. lots of energy, burns out quick.. thats what they are all about. ANY black with simular gear then me can easily beat me, my advantage comes into play in raids.. or others who have FOF on.. or like i said players who don't have the gear i have. Not sure why you care about FOF merely doing what it says it does, or how that is unfair to you in anyway. Its a double edged sword.. you do realize red/blacks are some of the weakest blacks in pvp which is why very few of us are considered any good at anything other then dmg on raids? Make the weak.. weaker.. lol for lack of better words i think a request like that makes you pretty selfish and self absorbed. I think your opinion is a pretty ignorant one. Be a red/black then you tell me how its unfair.. because it is not. Chances are you'd be running around WITHOUT FOF on because it makes you easy to kill..

Edit: Also FoF's desciption is a big reason why i changed from my beta colors as green/black to red/black.. maybe your selfish requests would be alittle more tolerable if we could change our colors because i'm not wasting 1000+ hours making a new char as experienced and upgraded as this one.

[Truama]

You speak the words that i cannot~ ^^ =D

[sliceyndicey]

that is the other thing i would like admin to look into, is FOF should only deal with fire damage overall not any color, its not called Force Of Flames for no reason thats just my thought on that one. cause blue doesnt affect its 2nd color neither does green or black nor white so why is it that the FOF affects any color should just be Fire damage should it not... Also i would like admin to look in FOD as well cause the 10% gain is not worth the 30% loose in health no offence, but 100 extra damage over 3k health ya not really worth it, if anything make it even like gain 10% loose 10% somethin like that effect also Kamakazi for blacks we can bind ourself so why not add a rune of kamakazi you deal the ammount of damage you have left from your mana balls to your dealt opponent. so if you have 10 black mana itd deal like 7-8k or somethin if you have 1 mana its like 1k hit and auto death just to add some fun to blacks

FoF amplifies all damage done as well as damage taken loli think its perfect. and its awsome for black reds...i think FOD isnt meant for a main..Fol Fof FoE FoM are mains...and all of them have just as bad plus and minus's

[sliceyndicey]

yer well said nub. i never knew you were red black too lol. i thought black green for some reason :/

[NizzamusJerkheart]

There is nothing wrong with how FoF is set up. I dont even use FoF in pvp when im on my red white because why would u want to take 30% more damage to deal only 25% more back? It doesnt make any sense unless you have the best fire gear and can kill someone with a blazo, immolate, tol, fw combo.
Other than that, FoD needs some serious reconstruction. Having 30% less hp is essentially the same as taking 30% more damage (FoF). So why does it only increase damage done by 10%. Also, you have to cast another debuff on the enemy for it to have any effect at all. I wish admins would consider redoing it all together. I wouldn't mind the 30% decrease in max hp if there was some other benefit to it other than casting it in raids.

[Batman2]

Its hard to tell exactly if the shadow damage is doing anything or not because you keep changing two variables. Your shadow spell power changes AND your intellect changes. If you can keep your intellect a constant and just change your shadow spell power, then your data will actually be useful. Try taking off all shadow items and put on a bunch of red/blue/white gear to get your intell to 526 and myst to 192. Then test your black dots and see if the damage is the same or less from when you were wearing shadow gear.

[Batman2]

Dunno what you all don't get about FoD. It is meant to be used to boost group damage. One person sacrifices 30% health so that the entire group does 10% more damage. And that is very helpful. It was never intended to be used for running around solo or for PvP really. Just used with group PvE stuff. And it could be worse. You could have the old Beta version on FoD still that was pretty much suicide to whoever used it.

[TechnoDestructo]

Eh... it's not hard to tell it's not working with DoTs

[TehNo0b]

Eh... it's not hard to tell it's not working with DoTs

Your absolutley right. I just realized my dots hit more with red gear then it does with black..